Sponsored Post: Sienna

Jun 3rd 2010

Many thanks to Toyota for sponsoring BabyNameWizard.com today. That kind of support is invaluable for somone trying to run a world-class website out of her kitchen. And as it happens, the product that Toyota is promoting is an interesting baby name story in itself.

Here's what I had to say about Sienna in the Baby Name Wizard book:

Sienna is a clay used in pigments. Treated with fire it becomes burnt sienna, a lush reddish-brown tint familiar to every child with a 64-pack of Crayolas. Coincidence or not, it started to be heard as a name right after the introduction of the Toyota Sienna minivan. Actress Sienna Miller has been attracting enough attention to tone down those automotive associations.


Unlike Royce, which became a popular name on the strength of the Rolls Royce image, Sienna is a "chicken-or-the-egg" tale. Which came first, the baby or the minivan? The baby name Sienna first hit the U.S. top 1000 in 1995. Toyota introduced its automotive Sienna in late 1997. So round one goes to the babies. But take a closer look:



The number of baby Siennas jumped with the burst of publicity when the minivan was introduced. Then once the vehicle became an established hit, the baby name started to slide -- even though the similar name Sierra was still rising. Apparently, a lot of parents decided Toyota had taken full hold of the name. One thing's for sure: the name Sienna's decline wasn't cause by lack of appeal. Because the instant that actress Sienna Miller tilted the name a smidgen back toward the human side in the mid-'00s, parents flocked to it.

What fascinates me about this interplay is that there really is no "which came first." The namers of both cars and babies came to Sienna at the same time -- and, I suspect, for the same reasons. They chose Sienna to evoke a particular image, with a sound that comfortably straddles the fresh and familiar.



A final sponsor note: Toyota has produced a new suburban-rap video about their minivans. Yes, really. We offer a brief promo video here, and hope you'll give a look in appreciation for Toyota's support for this website (or for the struggling genre of minivan rap). Watch the "Swagger Wagon" promo.

Comments

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By Coll
June 3, 2010 9:15 AM

Anything to support minivan rappers ;)

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June 3, 2010 9:42 AM

Hilarious! I'll think of it when I jump into my Sienna later today for the afternoon carpool.

I do have a friend whose daughter is named Sienna. She's two years old.

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By Daffy Castilian (not verified)
June 3, 2010 10:58 AM

On a smaller scale, check out the trend for the name "Sedona" (A city in Arizona and, beginning in 1998 also a Kia minivan):

'90: 7 girls
'91: 11 girls
'92: 20 girls
'93: 21 girls
'94: 38 girls
'95: 39 girls
'96: 46 girls
'97: 50 girls
'98: 57 girls
'99: 59 girls
'00: 68 girls
'01: 61 girls
'02: 76 girls
'03: 66 girls
'04: 77 girls
'05: 58 girls
'06: 76 girls
'07: 75 girls
'08: 91 girls
'09: 68 girls

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By CB, nli (not verified)
June 3, 2010 11:14 AM

Ha ha... They certainly know their demographics, those crafty corporate folks. We are tentatively beginning our search for the perfect minivan. Even though I consider their recent ad campaign a definite negative, we are leaning heavily towards Toyota, because of more practical motives.

But, I am confused. Is Sienna being used as a boy name? Or is the blue on the graph irrelevant? I definitely think it seems girly, but it's getting harder to tell...

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June 3, 2010 11:16 AM

There's a baby Sienna a few blocks away from me.

My friend really wanted to name a baby girl Siyennah until her husband convinced her that it was a porn star name...

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By Birgitte (not verified)
June 3, 2010 11:25 AM

Hah! We just bought our first minivan. We looked at the Sienna's but decided to go for an Astro (I don't see Astro taking off as a name, even though Walter on Fringe frequently calls his assistant Astrid by that name).

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By ClaireP (not verified)
June 3, 2010 11:49 AM

This post brings up the possibility of all kinds of names inspired by automobiles:

Already names of cars and of people:
Austin
Aurora
Azure
Cheyenne
Ciera
Cressida
Dakota
Jetta
Jimmy
LeBaron
Liberty
Montana
Mystique
Phoenix
Savana
Sierra

For consideration:
Capitalizing on the hot -o ending for boys
Alero
Aveo
Bronco
Durango
Fiero
Fuego
Montero
Navajo
Quattro
Scirocco
Scorpio
Toronado

Capitalizing on the popular -er for boys
Blazer
Duster
Explorer
Forester
Mountaineer
Wagoneer
Wrangler

Some girls' names:
Breeze
Cayenne
Esprit
Impala
Lumina
Mirada
Miata
Modena
Pacifica
Parisienne
Reatta
Sedona
Sephia
Sequoia
Sonata
Sonoma
Tacoma
Vitara
Windstar
Xantia

Too high of expectations on the kid:
Achieva
Integra
Acclaim
Celebrity
Legacy
Tribute

Nickname only:
Brat
Colt
Diablo
Luv
Scamp
Sidekick
Starlet

No:
Avenger
Beetle
Conquest
Cougar
Econoline
Escort
Hummer
Metro
Neon
Outback
Probe
Rampage
Rendezvous
Touareg
Vanquish
Viper

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By hyz
June 3, 2010 12:03 PM

reposted from previous thread:

Amy3, interesting! I haven't seen a lot of Gunsmoke myself, but that sounds about right for the *type* of influence, and I did grow up watching a lot of old TV shows like that.....

PennyX, nice to meet your new self. ;) Not a bad idea, really, hmmm.... But yes, we did get a pretty unmistakable shot showing that this little bub is a boy, so we're focusing there. I guess if I had to pick a name at this very instant it would be Oliver, especially because it is already DH approved (which was painfully hard to come by last time), but I am still mulling over the options. Oliver and August seem like the strongest candidates, but the slightly longer short list at the moment probably also includes:

Alistair
Solomon
Jonah
Graham
Rowan
Orson

Those are the ones that I could really see using (not my "love them but *probably* wouldn't use" names), AND that I think I might be able to talk DH into (it excludes the ones he really didn't like at all, e.g. Callum, Cavan, Everett, Ronan, Shepherd, Silvan). DH didn't seem to like any of these other "short list" names as much as Oliver or August, but I think he could come around on them. His only suggestions so far have been Tristan and Frederick, discussed at length above.

Regarding Agatha and Ursula, I do think they go together, but not in a very good way (for me). I think they tend to bring out each other's more harsh/severe qualities, rather than playing up the sophisticated ones. They kind of match *too* well, if that makes sense. I'd rather see Matilda paired with either Agatha or Ursula, because to me Matilda has more of a sweet and playful side than the other two. Oh, and I mentioned this before, but my SIL has a cat named Agatha, too!

Eo, thanks for chiming in on Alistair/Alasdair/etc.! Ok, well, there's one vote for "al-lister" being the more correct/traditional/original pronunciation. I really would love to hear from some of our British members, too, if they're around, and see if they can confirm your theory. RobynT, I know a person with the last name McAllister, spelled like so, and pronounced as you'd imagine, so I'm with you there. But, in a way, I think that supports Eo's theory that "allister" is the traditional pronunciation, and the spelling of the LN could've been changed at any point to make it phonetic (Ellis Island, etc.).

zoerhenne, I do like Don McLean and that song, actually, but even that's a sad song, although it's pretty. I don't know why Vincent Price is so strong for me, though--I'm almost embarrassed to admit, this Simpsons clip is probably the first place I ever became aware of him, although I'd surely seen him before that to some extent: http://videosift.com/video/The-Simpsons-Vincent-Prices-Egg-Magic . It's weird how some things will stick with you....

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By hyz
June 3, 2010 12:08 PM

There's a young Sienna in my neighborhood, but her mom's Italian, so I thought maybe she was using it more as a place name (I don't know if they spell her name Sienna or Siena, actually, but they usually call her SiSi). I usually don't care for it because of its modern feel, but it seemed ok in her case.

ClaireP, good lists! I liked the "no" list best, myself. lol.

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By Rjoy (not verified)
June 3, 2010 12:10 PM

I know a little girl names Sienna. She is 8. She was named after Siena, Italy where her parents honeymooned. I can't recall now if they spell it with one N or two. hmmmm

Baby announcement. My friends had her baby!

Rin@ Isabella. Rin@ is pronounced Reena and is after their Italian grandmother. They are the few people in the US that use Isabella and REALLY are italian.

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By Elisabeth@youcantcallitit (not verified)
June 3, 2010 12:10 PM

Well this WAS interesting.

I was just looking at top choices across the globe. In 2008, Sienna ranked #8 in Australia.

Wonder if the minivan has caught on there?

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By KRC (not verified)
June 3, 2010 1:05 PM

@zoerhenne - Thanks for the awesome list of ideas for Rosalind! I really love

Rosalind Genevieve Claire
Rosalind Gwendolyn Eve
Rosalind Juniper (you said Iris, but I would make it Kay, which is my mother's middle name)

But the one I can't get out of my mind is

Rosalind Ruby Lucille

That has such a beautiful flow! I wish I had some connection to Ruby or Lucille. It sounds amazing.

@Chimu - the baby's surname would be 2 syllables, beginning with Long- like Longmont. Which prevents me from ever using one of my favorite girl names: Philippa nn Pippa.

What is mirnada/PennyX's surname that everyone is raving about?

Our neighbors just had a baby girl and named her Sienna. I'm not much of a fan of that name. It reminds me of a soap opera character in the 1980s. Baby Sienna's brother's name is Tyler.

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June 3, 2010 2:06 PM

We know a 14-year-old Sienna -- the first child we ever heard of with the name.

I like the "Siena" spelling, honoring the Italian city like Rjoy's friend, much better.

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June 3, 2010 2:14 PM

Don't know if you guys heard about Laura Ling (journalist held in North Korea last year) having a baby girl last night. She named her Li Jefferson (after sister Lisa and President Clinton). Normally I'm not a big fan of masculine names on girls (Jefferson) but in this case I think it's really nice. I like names with personal significance.

Also, I had a girl in my class a number of years ago named Cianna (pron. Sienna). She was born in late 1998.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20390747,00.html

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June 3, 2010 2:54 PM

There is a little one in our neighborhood named Sienna (not sure if it's 1 or 2 N's). I think she's about 4 now.

When my DD came around I did finally look into a minivan after years of vowing I would neer drive a big clunky thing that looked like a truck to me. I now own a Caravan.

KRC-I'm so glad you liked my suggestions. I tried to pull names from a variety of styles but concentrated more on the "old-lady" "classicly new again" styles many on this board seem to like and also because Rosalind trends that way to me. I did keep wanting to put Kate into the mix but couldn't find a 2nd match. My favorite was Rosalind Hazel Alexis but now I find myself thinking Louise. I do like to repeat some sounds in double mn's don't I :)

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By hyz
June 3, 2010 3:50 PM

Ok, so kind of funny. I googled 0liver and 1vy together, and came up with some hits, but the best one is a blog of a woman whose kids are named 0liv3r and 1vy, they are both half asian (guessing chinese by 1vy's mn)/half caucasian, and the dad is also an MD (like my DH). So much for any pretensions of originality on my part, lol.... ;)

There is also a chain of "upscale" restaurants in AZ called Olive and Ivy, apparently.

KRC, the surname is F0nten0t. I agree with you that Rosalind Ruby Lucille has a wonderful flow, and is a nice balance of proper and sweet. If you can't get it out of your head, that might be enough connection to it! I also like Rosalind Genevieve Claire and Rosalind Juniper Kay. I don't care for Rosalind Gwendolyn anything, because the sound of those two names right next to each other seems too similar to me--the flow sort of reminds me of the Shel Silverstein poem Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout (Would Not Take the Garbage Out). I mean, it's kind of fun, but probably too sing-songy, I think. I want to try to help more with suggestions, but it feels too wide open. Are there any things you definitely want to stick with (like Kay as part of the name, or things like that)? Do you have any names on your list for middles you'd like to share (or maybe you did, and I missed it!)?

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By KRC (not verified)
June 3, 2010 4:34 PM

Oooh, F0nten0t is a good surname! I was recently asked to help name a baby with the surname R3dfi3ld - I was so envious of that name! It really couldn't be any better.

I would love your help, hyz. For middle names for Rosalind, I do like using Kay, but it is not mandatory. My grandmother's name is Hazel and I did like Rosalind Hazel Alexis - except Alexis is not really my style. I like the idea of family names. My other grandmother was Isobel and my grandmother Hazel's sisters were Maxine and Grace. I really like that sibling set. I think Maxine makes a very good middle name. I also like things which sound like Maxine, such as Delphine, for middle names. The person I most want to honor is my sister who is named Jennifer. Her middle name is Kristin. So there are nothing but 1970s-80s names to choose from there!

I feel like at least one of the middle names needs to be family-related.

My son is named Hug0 Th0mas my LN his LN. Thomas is a family name.

Any ideas are welcome! Right now, my favorite is still zoerhenne's Rosalind Ruby Lucille!

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June 3, 2010 4:43 PM

@KRC: What about Rosalind Ruby Christine? (Or just using Christine somewhere.) Christine has the 'ine' ending you like, plus it connects to your sister's middle name, Kristen!

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June 3, 2010 4:54 PM

Hey everyone! So I've been way MIA recently but just wanted to check in, let you all know that Ruthie is very healthy and a wonderful baby so far- she'll be one month next Wednesday (time does fly!). Her name fits her perfectly and I've gotten so many compliments on it. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I'll be on more often and will be able to join in on the fun conversation here- I do miss you guys! Just looked through my Synagogue's monthly update and it lists three new babies in addition to Ruth:

Max Irving
Judah Edward
Cooper Irving

Hmm... is Irving making a comeback? It's one of those names, along with Stanley and Harvey, that feel very...grandfatherly...to my ears.

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By KRC (not verified)
June 3, 2010 4:54 PM

Rachel_young namer - excellent idea! I love Rosalind Ruby Christine!

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June 3, 2010 4:55 PM

Personally, none of those car names are my style at all, but for any of you considering them, I thought I'd warn you that Sonata, while it sounds kind of pretty, is also the name of a prescription sleep medication much like Ambien and Lunesta. Probably not a good name for a kid!

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June 3, 2010 6:22 PM

Clementine-Oh man, I was gonna use Lunesta with Luna as a nn. Kind of like Gwen Stefani Lou Nesta LN! J/K

KRC-Rosalind Ruby Christine is very nice too! I like the choices you have among your relatives. Grace is common as is CLaire for a mn. Maxine would fit great in many of the combos as well. Didn't I post an Isabel combo?

Oh and I know a family of R3dston3. Kids are Tuck3r+H@nnah.

hyz-That google hit is funny! Are there any with August in them?

Becky-Glad to hear things are going well in your family. I like the names you posted. Cooper is on my list of "cute but could never use irl" names.

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June 3, 2010 7:45 PM

Sienna is incredibly popular here in Australia and has been for a couple of years. It is a very 'on trend' name and I don't particularly care for it, although it does have a pretty sound. I don't think we have the Sienna minivan here (although I could be wrong). There is definitely a car called a Sierra though.

@ KRC - a 2 syllable last name isn't too bad. I see your problem with using Pippa though :( Such a shame. I do like something like Rosalind Phillipa Grace though. Rosalind Ruby Christine is also nice.
How about Rosalind Phillipa Hazel
Rosalind Genevieve Delphine
Rosalind Hazel Delphine
You have lots of good names to work with!

@ Becky good to see you, I"m glad Ruth is going well!

@ hyz - I have no illusions about being original given most of the names I like are well worn favourites on here, but you can just look at it as you have great taste :)

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June 3, 2010 7:54 PM

Oh, I'm so jealous of people with a good surname. I've got a choppy one-syllable last name (and my maiden name was even shorter and choppier, if it's possible). It would be so much fun choosing names for a last name like Wellington or Matthews...as it is I end up looking for long given names to balance it out. (I even admit to being on board with the Frilliana trend - to an extent - because of the pretty way it adds syllables.)

In other news, I met a toddling Alexia this week. Sigh. Adorable baby. Nice mother. You'd think people would check to see if their baby's name was the same as any medical conditions before they gave it, though. I just don't get parents who give a name with no consideration except to the sound! I'm baffled.

Re: Agatha, that's so funny! I've been thinking recently how appealing the name is. It's not a name that is much around, then suddenly it pops up simultaneously. Truly, we are creatures of the trends...c'mon, though. Just picture a cute little two and a half year old shyly saying, "I'm Agatha!" when you ask her name. Oh, yeah. It's going to happen.

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June 3, 2010 8:08 PM

Astro as a NN for Astrid is adorable!

Kia itself could be a name too. (I think I met a Kia once. Short for Kialani I think.)

ClaireP: Awesome list! There already is at least one Colt. He was starring quarterback for the University of Hawaii football team a few years ago and did very well. I think kids are starting to be named after him, but some parents are going for Colton instead. I read an article that his parents were deciding between Colt and Colton themselves. I think he is from Colorado or something.

I bet there are Starlets too!

I kind of like the sound of Sonata and Vitara. There is a Korean drama that is/was very popular called Winter Sonata; I wonder if that will inspire names too.

hyz: I was just thinking of Orson for you. I love that name (and the "bear" meaning) but my husband thinks it's ridiculous.

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June 3, 2010 8:29 PM

@hyz: I'm one of those that thinks the nn's Gus and Augie are adorable. I have an uncle August that goes by Augie which kind of makes it a grandpa name for me. Though it shames the socially responsible adult in me to admit, when I was a child we let our cats have several litters of kittens and I named one of them Fluffiluffigus, nn Gus.

I'm still rooting for Oliver, August, or maybe Orson since that's my name that got away. Tilden grows on me a little bit but it still doesn't seem like you.

Re Agatha: When I was 8 or 9 we had a neighbor with daughters Agatha and Mina. Agatha was my age and we played together constantly.

Re LNs: I have to admit I love F0nten0t too. And it's because I love DH's last name that I've never argued about whether our kids should all have it. Mine is rather ordinary and boring. I just never took his because 1) my LN is mine and 2) his LN rhymes with and has the same number of syllables and rhythm as Kimberly. And if I went by Kim HisLN it kind of becomes Kih Mander--.

From last thread: I'm going to have to pass Alistair, Ansel, and Linus past DH. I don't think I'd actually want to use Linus, I'm just interested in hearing what DH has to say. We're both computer people and our first association is Linus Torvalds, not the Peanuts character.

Rosalind Ruby Lucille: I have to say I love it too!

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June 3, 2010 8:28 PM

@Becky: I don't think I told you before, congrats on Ruth. If this is a girl that will be her middle name after my mother.

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June 3, 2010 8:36 PM

I was also thinking that Camry and Elantra would be just fine girl names ... if they weren't car names. LOL

I also love Allegra but have severe allergies and Aviva but work in IT and can't get over it sounding like Avira.

Why do companies have to "take" beautiful girl names? Do they also take boy names? I can't think of any off hand that have been thoroughly "taken" like that.

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June 3, 2010 8:39 PM

@ Becky: I'd imagine "Irving as a middle name" is likely named for - like you said - someone's grandfather. A friend is planning on using "Harold" (after her husband's grandfather) as a middle name if her baby (due Jan) turns out to be a boy.

@ MelissaM: I hear you. We have a one syllable last name that rhymes with an unfortunate four letter word. On the bright side, I don't need to agonize over giving my child a first name that has teasing potential, because I'm already screwed with the last name!

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By Rjoy (not verified)
June 3, 2010 8:48 PM

Another friend had her baby today. K@ris Joy.

I had to look up Karis. Not much on it except it means Grace and is from the Greek origin.

Siblings are No@h and Jedidiah.

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June 3, 2010 9:17 PM

Rjoy-I like Karis a lot for the sound though if it were me I probably would've spelled it Caris/Carys. Does Carissa/Karissa also stem from the same root?

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June 3, 2010 9:21 PM

Oh, hey, I forgot to mention earlier: I have a relative who is undergoing IVF and I am looking for a list of names to jokingly suggest if it takes (please, please cross your fingers for her, guys). I'm looking for something a little more subtle and humorous than 'Miracle.'

So far I have Reuben (Behold! A son!) and Leah (weary). Any suggestions?

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By Sol's_mom (not verified)
June 3, 2010 10:11 PM

I’d appreciate some advice and opinions from the excellent name-o-philes on here. I’m seven months pregnant (it’s a girl!). My husband and I have painstakingly narrowed it down to two first name choices, which are ironically both flower names. Violet (me) and Iris (him). Given how infrequently my husband seems to like a name (!) I’m struggling with the idea of whether Violet Iris or Iris Violet are viable possibilities. Our last name is a monosyllabic B name. I mean, what if she is a tomboy? What if she wants to be a botanist but can’t take the irony? The only other combination my husband has agreed to so far is Violet Rose, which to me is even more of a mouthful of flowers (and colors!) than the Violet/Iris combinations (besides, isn’t Rose the #1 middle name right now? Ug). Our son is named S0lomon F0rest (Sol F0rest for short; yes, we like nature names). My *brilliant* idea of Stella (star) to complement Sol (sun) was vetoed :).

I guess my questions are: 1) what does everyone think of the Violet Iris and Iris Violet combinations? 2) Are there other suggestions we could have overlooked? We like nature names, preferably subtle and NOT kre8tive. Violet does not flow well with many middle names, particularly if we decide to stick with names having a natural association. Thanks for your opinions/ideas!

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By Sol's_mom (not verified)
June 3, 2010 10:13 PM

@hyz Great choices! Obviously, we love the name Solomon as this is our son's name. We get lots of compliments on it, and Sol is a great, mellow nickname. There's a contemporary artist named S0l LeWitt so it has that association as well.

I also love Alistair, August, and Jonah. Good, solid classic names.

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June 3, 2010 10:14 PM

Melissa-On topic you could suggest Dreama! other ideas:
Aislin (and other sp)-dream/vision
Blossom
Bud
Fluer
Amaryllis-from Greek word meaning to sparkle
Thalia
Joy
Matthew or Nathaniel-Gift of God
Dorothea-Gift of God
Zera-seed

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June 3, 2010 10:27 PM

re: K@ris: A woman I work with has a daughter (age 4 tops) named K@rys. I think that is the spelling. I found it very unusual too. The sibling names you list are Biblical right? Do you think K@ris was chosen for it's religious meaning?

Also, I meant to ask. Laura mentions in the post that both Toyota and parents "chose Sienna to evoke a particular image." What image do you think that is? Like... outdoorsy?

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June 3, 2010 10:33 PM

@ Sol's mom - I like themey but I find Violet Iris or Violet Rose too much. I think you need a less obvious middle name. How about

Violet Xanthe
Violet Zara
Violet Greta
Violet Suzannah
Violet Elodie
Violet Briar
Violet Grace
Iris Amelie
Iris Lucia
Iris Delphine
Iris Margeurite
Iris Juniper
Iris Nell
Iris Helena

Some random suggestions there but maybe something will take your fancy

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June 3, 2010 10:41 PM

ha, fun post. it's funny all the different things that affect naming. and everyone i know loves the swagger wagon commercials. yay toyota. :]

hyz,
i'm also anxious for the uk readers to come back and tell us how they hear alistair pronounced. i have to say: the logic that it is a name like sean or seamus, that it ight be just a name that is pronounced differently than it looks, and that spellings like alister and alistor and mcallister are just attempts to make it phonetic, all of that does make logical sense. the only thing i have to point out is that in bnw2, alis-tayr is the pronunciation listed first, which i *think* laura does for the most common pronunciation (at least, as far as i can gather by flipping through the book). but still, it's important to me to know the "right" pronunciation of names, so i'd like to hear some uk folks weigh in. i have to say, if alister is the more "correct" pronunciation, i will be very sad. i'll mourn when i take it off my list! it just doesn't do anything for me. it strongly reminds me of lots of -ster words, but *especially* of hollister, that trendy, overpriced clothing store in the mall. not a great association for me. : /

also, haha about the 0liver and !vy blog. oh well, i still think they're a fantastic set. :]

CB,
i think the blue is irrelevent.

clairp,
nice lists! i got a good chuckle out of those. :]

pennyx,
i do like agatha; it's one of my favorite "old, stuffy names." i think it has potential to be eccentric and fun. however, i do not like it as well as ursula. i think ursula has a lot of potential elegance, sophistication, and even slinkiness beneath the surface, but i don't get that for agatha. which isn't bad, of course (a name doesn't have to be sophisticated to be good), i'm just thinking out loud. however, even though i *do* like agatha, i think i agree with hyz. i think they might draw attention to each other in a bad way. i think sylvia and ursula might work better, or ursula and august. other off-hand ideas to go with ursula: roxana, imogen, cordelia. none of those are "just right" to me, i'm just throwing things out there. i'm secretly hoping you somehow miraculously fall in love with zelda. :]

and yes, i think gus has the same affability as max and sam and leo. it's a good nickname, i think. but i also love the full august. they have very different feels, which i kind of like. august is so refined and gus is so bouncy and friendly. it's kind of like an alter ego.

krc,
the last name is f0nt3not (fon-ten-oh). pretty great, huh?

as much as i like gwendolyn, i think rosalind and gwendolyn might be a bit too similar. i think my favorite so far (keeping the honoring in mind) is rosalind genevieve claire. i agree that rosalind ruby lucille is pretty dazzling as well. and if you work maxine in there, that would be really cool, in my opinion! maybe... rosalind genevieve maxine. rosalind hazel genevieve. i also liked rosalind juniper kay.

also, can someone explain to me why you can't use philippa/pippa? i think i'm missing something crucial here.

becky,
glad you're doing well, and thanks for the names you posted. i liked them and found the irving interesting! i'd guess they are named after relatives as well.

robynt,
i didn't know that orson meant bear! that's fun. maybe pennyx should use orson and ursula. :] (just kidding, obviously--way too close!)

and yes, sienna's image is outdoorsy/naturey to me. it's on par with sierra to me. however, it's not my style; it seems very "new" naturey, as opposed to "old" naturey, which isn't for me.

melissam,
fun game! i like the ones you've come up with. i don't have anything yet, but i'll think on it.

sol's mom,
oooh. hmm. violet iris/iris violet, while i think it flows fine, is a lot of flowers...hmmm. i'm going to have to think on this one too.

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June 3, 2010 10:58 PM

Sol's mom-I think Violet and Iris are a little too "I" heavy when combined with each other. However, they do well with the flow otherwise. Violet Rose is just okay for me. Some other suggestions for you:
Violet Camilla
Violet Celeste* (my fav)
Iris Cordelia
Violet Susannah
Violet Willow
Violet Florence
Violet Marin
Shirley Iris
Sylvia Iris

emilyrae-KRC can't use Phillippa/Pippa because then she would get Pippi Longstocking jokes.

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June 3, 2010 11:08 PM

KRC, zoerhenne,
ooooh, i see. thanks, zoerhenne. hmm. honestly, i don't think it would stop me from using it if i loved it. but i can see why it would bother some.

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June 3, 2010 11:09 PM

Sol's Mom: I also think "Violet" and "Iris" are a bit too themey. With a monosyllabic last name, I love a 3 syllable middle name with either Violet - (Pronounced like Vi-lett, not like Vi-uh-let)or Iris. I'm partial to Violet myself, and love the suggestion of Violet Elodie!

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By Sol's_mom (not verified)
June 3, 2010 11:34 PM

@zoerhenne Funny you should mention Violet Celeste. My husband just mentioned Celeste out of nowhere the other day. I like the subtle (?) association with "celestial".

Everyone else - I love the suggestions! Just when you feel like you've mulled over all of the names, others suggest wonderful new possibilities!

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By knp
June 4, 2010 12:16 AM

Sol's Mom--I love the idea of the mn linking to something celestial (like Sol), rather than another floral. I do like Celeste!! and I'm sad Stella didn't fly. Or maybe a bird?

other ideas: (sorry if repeats)
Violet Selene/Seline/Celine
Iris Selena
Iris Lunette
Violet Sterling
Violet Aurora
Violet Vega
Iris Danica
Iris Lark
Violet Dove
Iris Oriole

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By Qwen
June 4, 2010 12:52 AM

I'm hopelessly behind on the conversations on the blog and I'm sorry because I don't think I'm going to get a chance to catch up anytime soon (I'm doing good if I can shower!)

BUT I wanted to let everyone know that Marcail Echo arrived on May 20th. She's beyond beautiful and a seriously amazing baby. Thank you all for all your input on her name in the last few months.

The nickname thing was a big issue for us so I thought you might like to know that for the most part we just call her 'M' (when we're not calling her Poppy Seed or Baby Girl or Sweet Pea...).

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By knp
June 4, 2010 1:03 AM

Congrats Qwen!! I can't believe she is here already!!!

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By Rjoy (not verified)
June 4, 2010 1:09 AM

Quen-Congratulations on you baby girl!

Sol's mom- I am sorry to say but Violet Iris together is way too much for me.

You have some great suggestions but I just wanted to add one. What do you think about.

Violet Serene

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June 4, 2010 3:24 AM

My word!

A girl is gone for 2 days & not only are there a lot of comments - there's a new post to catch up on ! YOWZA!

Alistair is ah-LIH-ster or if I were to phonetically spell the name as I say it : Alister

My only association with Sienna is that it's a colour & the Sienna Miller association.

re: Karis . Carys is the traditional spelling. If I remember correctly it's in the Welsh top 100 for girls. It comes from the Welsh word for love 'caru' & the added suffix 'ys'

I'm in the same boat as Emilyrae with the Pippi Longstockings jokes.I'd still go for it if I liked the name

I've been wondering about this for a couple of days: are the 'uh' & 'ah' sounds very different or similar to you guys? A lot of the time, the sounds are very similar to me, i.e. it's EYE-luh or LAY-luh for me. It's also because of the languages/accents here , that make the sounds similar a lot for me. For instance, the Afrikaans word 'a' is ('n ) said UH

Ok, will catch up on the rest later!
Anyhoo, I hope that you all have a great weekend

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June 4, 2010 3:50 AM

Obviously it depends on the specific name/word

e.g.
Ali can be UH-lee or it can be AH-lee , which are two completely different things

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By Amy3
June 4, 2010 5:34 AM

@Qwen, congrats and a warm welcome to Marcail! Glad you're both doing well.

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By Guest Robin (not verified)
June 4, 2010 8:04 AM

Sol's mom -

Thoughts for middle names:

Selene (moon goddess I think?)
Arden

Both names seem to go with Iris. Also, Stella got vetoed, but what about Estelle?