Beyonce's twins

I've seen a few articles speculating about the gender & names of Bey's twins.

One said Shawn (b) and Bea (g), which I really liked.

Another said Sir (b) and Rumi (g), possibly more likely after Blue Ivy. 

Thoughts? Speculation? 

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July 14, 2017 12:38 PM

Well, we have confirmation that the latter option is, in fact, the correct one.

I like Rumi. Perhaps the less said about Sir, the better.

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July 14, 2017 1:59 PM

Really, naming a daughter after a 13th century (male) Persian poet is a good idea? Why not Dante Petrarch or Cynewulf if we're going for medieval poets?

Well, at least it's a name unlike Sir, which is an aspirational title chosen by parents who shouldn't need to bolster their sufficient egos with such a choice. If they were British subjects mom and dad would likely be Sir and Dame in their own rights by now.û

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July 14, 2017 2:49 PM

Yes, I read about the Japanese female name which has really lovely associations, and I also know an Indian girl called Rumi, so despite the male poet, it feels very feminine to me. Now, if they actually chose the name in honour of the poet, that's a different story, but so far there's no confirmation that they did.

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July 14, 2017 3:40 PM

I was going by the article I read which went into great detail about the Persian poet, so I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that the happy couple had indicated that he was the inspiration for the name. The writer of the article may have made that assumption without any information from mom and dad. The article writer must have gotten that idea from somewhere. I know Rumi without Google, but maybe the writer just googled on his/her own authority with no hint from the family. I doubt a random pop culture article writer would know of Rumi offhand.

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July 17, 2017 5:56 PM

Here's the confirmation: https://www.yahoo.com/news/beyonc-apos-mama-shares-meaning-184356364.html

The daughter is indeed named for the Persian poet.

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July 17, 2017 8:27 PM

Well that's disappointing :S

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By mk
July 14, 2017 2:16 PM

I like Rumi too, it is also a feminine Japanese name. One of the meanings listed on wiki is 'lapiz lazuli, beauty.'

The poet is much more familiar, but is that why they chose it? I do not follow any of these celebrities.

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July 14, 2017 3:19 PM

I also like Rumi. I feel like I must have taught a Japanese one at some point in my teaching English days, because it sounded female right of the bat to me. 

They've done a good job of not being matchy matchy and keeping their style wide open, anyway. As for Sir... yeah...

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By PJ
July 15, 2017 9:30 PM

To me it's very clear that the name Sir is a political choice. The name says that they are going to force the world to treat their son, a black man, with a respectful address at all times, because it's his name.

I think it's very powerful, if also a sad reminder that all the money and fame in the world can't comeplete shield someone from racism.

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July 16, 2017 1:37 PM

This is very obvious to me as well.

Even though I don't follow them on Twitter or in general, really, I've seen hate tweets just because Beyonce took pic on Instagram, as many people do.

The hatred in this country and especially for minorities is astounding.

And even though I'm not a huge fan of any of their children's names, I've seen way worse on this board by people I assume (though I could be wrong at times) are white and not celebrities.

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July 18, 2017 12:09 PM

I never would have thought of this explanation and I've given it a lot of thought. I think that it's a flawed strategy because you cannot force someone to show respect. Those who show respect will do so regardless of a person's name, and someone who is determined to be disrespectful will be disrespectful regardless of name. I can imagine that those disrespectful people would use that name against him by saying it dripping with sarcasm, in a look who thinks that he's so important kind of way.

During random encounters with strangers, those people won't know his name (unless, of course, they recognize him), and hopefully teachers, friends and family are already respectful. So who are we talking about? People in business dealings? Coworkers? Sure, maybe racism is the racist's problem, and maybe this won't be a problem for him because he's not an average guy, but I think that people using one's name to show mock respect would get old really quickly -- and that's the sort of thing that people like to do "to be funny", too. Maybe I cannot understand because it's not my reality, but from what I can see, it's not a name that I would like to have, and I don't think it's fair to use your kid's name as a way to make a political statement because he is the one who is going to have to live with it for the rest of his life. 

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September 27, 2017 1:30 PM

PJ, that was EXACTLY my thought, not anything "aspirational."