Boy is named, Girl is a huge disagreement

My husband and I have completely different naming styles. (I'm sure you've heard that one before!) We're having a baby this fall, and don't plan on finding out the sex. We've settled on a boy name: Stanford James. It's my maiden name plus a "J" middle - we have many, many male "J"'s in our family so we like the idea of giving our (potential) little boy one of his own. Stanford James works for us because it's preppy, strong, and has a family history. All factors we agree upon.

I thought the same rule would apply to naming a girl. I love Eloise because our grandmothers are Evelyn and Louise. Other family names include: Georgia, Olivia, and Elizabeth. All of which I love. Preppy, Solid names, with family meaning. The only suggestions I've gotten from him are: Jenna and Kirsten. Yeesh! Any thoughts on how to bridge this gap? What else "goes with" Eloise, Georgia, Olivia, or Elizabeth that I could suggest? (Tossing family history aside...) Do you see a connection between Jenna and Kirsten that could lead to a name suggestion that fits my taste?

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April 11, 2012 2:41 PM

They're both fairly modern names - really got their start in the 70s and peaked in the 90s.  I'm wondering if he had classmates with those names at some point?  Or they're characters on TV?

Would he be willing to consider something with a nickname?  Elizabeth in particular has oodles of them.

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April 11, 2012 3:07 PM

That's a tough one.  Your DH sounds quite like mine.  He was rather open to boys' names, but wanted to stick to somewhat outdated names for girls.  I found that it was due to his fimiliarity with them.  I got him to branch out a bit by pointing out that our daughter would have a "Mom" name, and probably wouldn't appreciate it.  I likened it to a girl of our generation being named Barbara, Debra or Linda.  Fine names, but ones that we associate with friends' mothers.

The only suggestion I have at the moment is Katherine.  Definitely a classic, but saw quite a bit of play the same time as Jenna and Kirsten.

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By EVie
April 11, 2012 3:09 PM

My immediate thought was Genevieve, with Genna as a nickname. Georgiana could also plausibly lead to Genna. I'm not clear—has he actually rejected your choices? Can he articulate what he doesn't like about them? That might help guide us in making more suggestions. Eloise, Georgia, Olivia and Elizabeth represent a pretty broad spectrum of names to me, without much restriction in terms of popularity, so there are a number of directions in which we could go.

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By Guest (not verified)
April 11, 2012 5:35 PM

Thanks for the suggestion of Genevieve. It's a name that we had both mentioned we liked once upon a time! I think he leans toward names he's heard because he can attribute them to a girl who was nice, attractive, etc.

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By Guest (not verified)
April 27, 2012 5:11 AM

My husband's the same and it's infuriating. I sat him down and asked him why he liked our son's name and we were able to find a name of similar ilk (turned out he liked vintage but admitted he lacked imagination to think of names other than those of people he met). I like the suggestion below of Jenna as a middle name. it's where we made our compromises as middle names are rarely used. 

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By hyz
April 11, 2012 3:14 PM

Hmm, this is a bit tough.  My first thought for an acceptable soundalike to Jenna was Gemma, if that does anything for you.  Or what about Nora?  Nice, and guys seem to like it.  I would see if you could get any more info from him on why he likes those names--if it's because they sound like "popular girl" names from when he was growing up, that may be a direction to look--are there any names of the era that could work for both of you?  I put Kirsten and Jenna into Nymbler, and some of the more appealing suggestions were things like Bethany, Cassandra, Emma, Charlotte, Caroline, Cecily, Britta, Tabitha, Meredith, Johanna, Lena, Samantha, Noelle, Blair, Lila... do any of these do anything for you/him?   

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April 11, 2012 6:04 PM

SUCH a good call on the "popular" girl names idea. I was trying to figure out what connected them other than belng dated late 80s names. I looooooove Emma and Charlotte, it will just be a matter of deciding if these are TOO popular. But I could see them being a good compromise.

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By Guest (not verified)
April 11, 2012 6:38 PM

I'm convinced men gravitate towards the names of cheerleaders from their high school days. I've lost count of how many men have suggested, "Alyssa."

No offense to any Alyssas. It's a fine name.

Maybe a classic name that was popular around the same era would suit you both?

Laura pops to mind.

The suggestion of a name with an appealing nn is also a good one.

I personally love Elizabeth nn Liddy or Eliza, but there are many good choices.

Others that strike me as in between your two lists: Elise, Claire, June, Cora, or Jillian

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April 11, 2012 7:43 PM

Amandavaughn-I am just going to give you ideas off some factors in your post I noted.

1.Preppy and strong/sophisticated

2.Goes with Georgia; Olivia; Elizabeth; Eloise

3.Takes into account Jenna and Kirsten soundwise and popularity-wise

So what I note about all those is the tremendous El, and -eh- sounds. However, my first thought for a preppy girl name was Harper. So other El or -eh- or 80's names that are strong/preppy (which are two different things in my book):

Helen; Madalyn (whatever sp); Kelly; Jacqueline; Talia; Leisel; Blair; Claire; Samantha; Victoria; Alice; Beatrice; Sophia; Penelope; Theresa

 

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By Guest (not verified)
April 11, 2012 8:51 PM

Maybe Jenna would work in the middle name spot where you are interested in having a "J" name?

I was trying to think about popular 70s/80s names that are either still popular or that you could vary to suit your current tastes more:

- Amy --> Amelia

- Lisa --> Lis (I knew someone with this name in Argentina and I always loved it. She pronounced it like "lease") or Elise

- Rebecca (Perhaps the Becky/Becca nicknames would appeal to your husband?)

- Julie --> Julia is timeless right?

- Jill --> Jillian

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April 11, 2012 9:09 PM

I love the suggestion of Genevieve nn Genna, seems to fit both your styles.

My other thought was what about a surname style name? They seem to fit the preppy description  to me and work well with Stanford. Avery, Harper, Emmerson all come to mind.

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April 11, 2012 9:27 PM

Eliza (shares a beginning sound and number of syllables with Eloise and is a derivative of Elizabeth, but has the -a ending of Jenna).

Madeleine (like Eloise it is a french storybook character name that has become fashionable for real little girls. Matilda, Ramona and Sophie/Sophia also come to mind).

Gemma, Ella, Emma, Anna, Hanna/Hannah, Bella/Isabella (have a lot in common with Jenna, sound and looks wise, but are currently fashionable classics, like many of your choices. Gemma is my favorite of these, it is so much like Jenna in sound, but it has only recently become fashionable and is not at all over used or dated sounding. Also, it means Gem/Jewel in Italian!)

Katherine (sounds a bit like Kirsten, but is more classic, like Elizabeth).

Eva, Louisa ( the fashionable, -a ending versions of Evelyn and Louise).

Ava (shares popularity and ending sound with Olivia, but might appeal to a fan of Jenna).

Virginia ( similar to your pick of Georgia, but has the Gin/Jen sound of Jenna. Jenna/Ginna could even be used as a nickname.

Caroline (similar to Carolina which is similar to Georgia, but has an -n ending sound like Kirsten. Carolina and Caroline make me think of Cara, which has a bit in common with Jenna and Olivia)

 

 

 

 

 

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April 12, 2012 9:14 AM

Perhaps you should ask your husband what it is he likes about Jenna and Kirsten. Is it that they're short/2-syllables, begin with a consonant... or perhaps that he wants a "normal" name without realising his sense of name-normalcy is outdated by 20 years? If that's the case then it may help to show him the names in the NameVoyager so he can see they're not really "normal" anymore. (In case of Jenna, also point out how the sharp decline coincides with the emergence of Jenna Jameson). 

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By mk
April 12, 2012 5:26 PM

Katherine, Genevieve, and Gemma are all good ideas that may work for both of you. But actually, I really like Kirsten as a name. It doesn't seem dated to me at all, I wouldn't even connect it to the 80s/90s. Maybe because the two Kirstens I know are from northern Europe?

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By Guest (not verified)
April 13, 2012 3:56 AM

It seems like you gravitate towards current top 100 names and he towards top 100 names of the 90's.  You seem to see your list as vintage chic, with family ties and are feminine sounding.  He picked ones that sound friendly and familiar.  I took a look at the top baby name list from the 80's and 90's and here are my suggestions for appeasing both of you.

Natalie

Victoria (he'll like her options of Vicky or Tori)

April

Meredith

Caroline

Virginia

Claudia

 

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April 14, 2012 10:52 AM

Just Genevieve popped to mind, to appease his Jenna. or Christiane, like the reporter Christiane Amonpour, probably misspelled her last name. Callista is more appealing to me than Kirsten. wdyt?

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April 14, 2012 10:55 AM

what do you feel about the name Vannora for a girl, it may be spelled with one N as well, but it is Scottish and means white wave, like Jenna,Jennifer, etc. very pretty, goes well with Stanford type name.

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By Guest (not verified)
April 15, 2012 11:07 AM

Sarah might be a good fit. It's solid and classic along the lines of Elizabeth and old-fashioned like some of your other choices. It was also very popular in the 70s/80s.  In my neck of the woods, Sarah would be a fresh choice as most people going with OT Biblical choose Hannah (which, don't get me wrong, I LOVE LOVE this name) or Abigail

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April 16, 2012 9:48 AM

Possible names to bridge the gap, some closer to his side and some to yours, and a few a little further afield but sharing some elements of the sounds and styles you like (and no doubt I'm repeating here, but this is what comes to mind first):

Anna, Bethany, Bettina, Callista, Caroline, Charlotte, Christiana, Corinne,

Elise, Ellen, Emily, Estelle/Stella, Gemma, Genevieve, Imogen, Isabel,

Katherine, Jane, Janelle, Jeanette, Jessica (Shakespearean like Olivia!), Juliet, Justine,

Laura/Lauren, Penelope (nn. Penny or Nell?), Rose, Tessa,

Vanessa, Virginia nn. Ginny, Violet, Vivian/Vivienne

It would be interesting to ask him what appeals to him especially about Jenna and Kirsten. I'm guessing it's that because these names were relatively popular in his/your generation they feel approachable, likeable, friendly (and they may be the default for him if he doesn't particularly care for, say, biblical names that were also popular, like Rebecca or Sarah). If you're concerned that some of his choices seem dated (these two don't strike me as unusually so but I haven't actually checked), you could try showing him popularity graphs on the NameVoyager and make the case that your daughter would probably rather not grow up with a "mom name."

Or he may just like "short and sweet," and having a ready nickname he likes will help him warm up to one of the longer classics you favor. Elizabeth certainly has loads of options!

Many people also prefer different styles for boys and girls names; he may like his boys "buttoned up" but find the same effect prissy or stuck-up on a girl. For what it's worth, "preppy" wasn't what came to my mind with your girl style, though since your choices fit comfortably with Stanford James I can see why you called them that. I get: traditional, classic, popular (thus versatile), basically conservative and indisputably feminine, a bit romantic because long and flowing (with trendy J, L, V sounds). His choices read a little more sleek and modern in general usage, although Kirsten is certainly traditional enough (just northern European more than WASP) and Jenna Bush (who reads rather preppy to me) was, like her twin Barbara, named after her blue-blood grandmother.

Finally, his impressions, like everyone's, are colored by positive interactions with particular individuals - i.e. Jenna seems "nice" because he knew a Jenna who was nice (and if your middle school bully happened to be named Olivia you surely wouldn't be drawn to the name as strongly even with the pedigree). If he hasn't thought much about names in the abstract and the particular qualities he finds attractive, those subjective factors may be defining his opinions, and likewise his new daughter will define his opinion of her name. You don't know till you ask if he has a deep aesthetic attachment to Jenna and Kirsten or is just a go-with-the-flow guy and you're worrying about nothing! An interesting discussion to have with him!

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April 27, 2012 10:13 AM

I really like your naming style! I love that Stanford James incorporates so many family elements (including your maiden name, wow!), and sounds very strong and handsome. And I love Eloise -- I'm a big fan of combining two meaningful names into one, nice job! I also love Georgia (and Georgiana) and Elizabeth.

Given your dilemma, I like the suggestions of Genevieve nn Genna (especially since I think you said you'd both considered that once?), Christiane/Christiana (I love love these names!), Juliet (a particular favorite of mine), and wanted to offer re: the suggestion of Virginia nn Ginna that I actually know a Virginia who goes by Ginna.

But I think your best bet is Elizabeth -- it's one of the family names you love, and it has so many nn potentials that I'm sure your husband could find one he likes. Libby, Liddy, Beth, Betsy, Lily are all sweet, and there are so many more. One of my recent favorites is Tess -- not a traditional nn for Elizabeth, but since Betty, Bess, and Tettie are all traditional nns, I think Tess works. Another version that might work for you both as a given name is Elisa. I think Elizabeth is a great match for Stanford too -- staid, traditional.