Due in May - Sibling Names for Lewis and Eleanor

I posted a while back about a hypothetical sibling for Lewis and Eleanor (I can't find the original post though? It must've been more than a year ago). Now after a rather long wait, two actual siblings - twins! - are on their way, due in May, and having had several months to mull over possible names, DH and I have now got a "short"list.

We haven't found out the genders, although being twins it's a bit of a challenge as I am having scans every hospital visit, and get asked each time if I want to find out - but I really do want a surprise (especially a double surprise!) like I did with my first two. So we are after two boys names and two girls names. I had been keeping an every-growing list of names which I gave to DH to choose from, and this is what he has chosen:





Now my concern is choosing names that sound good with Lewis and Eleanor as older siblings, and which also sound good as a "twin set". I don't want to be just referring to "the twins" all the time because the two names are too difficult to say together. So, for example, on our girl list we have a couple of 4-syllable names, and although individually I like them, I don't know if they would work together because there'd be a lot of name to get through! We don't use nns for the first two, because it just didn't feel right, and I don't know if we would do nns for the twins either.

I think stylistically a lot of these names are all over the place, which is where I'm struggling to make a choice (DH likes them all and doesn't worry about them "going together"). Looking them up in the BNW book, many of them are in the Timeless category - which makes me lean more towards them than the ones which are more tied to a particular time period.


So I'd appreciate your feedback on the names as siblings to Lewis and Eleanor, and also as names for twins. Obviously some wouldn't work together (Adrian and Adriana ...) If you were me, and had to name either boy/boy, girl/girl or boy/girl twins from the names on our list, which names do you think work well together? And which don't? There are a couple of issues which I have considered (some which I think I had mentioned on my earlier post) and I am curious to see if they are clearly problematic to any of you.

Btw - I am pretty sure all the names sound good with our ln, and we have a long list of mn possibilities (family names) so we'll decide on the first names first and then choose the mns. Thank you for reading all of this, and thanks in advance for your help!


February 19, 2018 12:52 AM

(It's funny: the only Lewis I know is about my age, and has a little daughter Eleanor...)

A few stealth-match pairings that stood out to me:

Adriana and Caspian (names of seas) (Adrian and Caspian may be a bit too much, though)
Catalina and Johanna (Latinate forms of classic, international names)
Adrian(a) and Lawrence (Roman placename-derived names), Lydia and Bethany (placenames mentioned in the Bible)
Nicholas and Vincent (etymologies related to victory and conquest)

February 19, 2018 2:11 AM

Wow, thank you - this is great. It would be nice to have a subtle connection between the names - I'd appreciate any other ideas along this line. And I do love the sound of Catalina and Johanna together!

February 19, 2018 1:28 AM

I'd take out Linus (and maybe Lawrence, too) for being too similar to Lewis.


G/G combos:

Bethany & Harriet

Bethany & Lydia

Harriet & Lydia

Adriana & Carmen

Mirabel & Carmen

Lydia & Felicity

Lydia & Carla

Heidi & Johanna


B/G combos:

Harriet & Phineas

Veronica & Vincent

Harriet & Vincent

Lydia & Pierce

Carla & Clayton

Carla & Caspian

Carla & Christian


B/B combos:

Clayton & Kieran

Clayton & Edmund

Adrian & Christian

Phineas & Pierce

Clayton & Pierce

Bernadette & Edmund

February 19, 2018 2:18 AM

Thank you for the suggestions! I do like a lot of these, like Harriet and Lydia, and Harriet and Phineas. I see you've included some starting with the same letter - Veronica and Vincent, Carla and Clayton, etc. I'm not sure I want the same starting initial, especially for twins, although DH doesn't seem to mind (he laughs at a lot of the "rules" I've mentioned). What does everyone think about this?


Also - I do really like the sound of Heidi and Johanna together, but worry it might be a bit much (the book "Heidi" was written by Johanna Spyri) - is it enough to not use these two names together?

February 19, 2018 10:35 AM

I think for boy/girl twins you could get away with the same starting initial without too much hassle, although given all your options I maybe would not. I wouldn't do the same initial for b/b or g/g because it could get confusing/annoying for them, lots of people have stories of bureaucratic mix-ups. 

February 19, 2018 2:04 PM

As Natasha-Rhiannon said, using the same initial for boy-girl twins is OK, but if you can easily avoid it, I would suggest doing so. For same-sex twins, I would definitely not use the same initials. Many children develop an affinity for their initial - it's the first letter they learn to write, that sort of thing - and for twins who look at all alike, it can especially become important to have it be an individual thing, not a one-of-a-pair thing. (It can be helpful to relatives giving gifts, too: even people who can't figure out which name goes with which child and what their favorite-color-du-jour is, can get two gifts that are identical except for the initial on them, thereby satisfying the seemingly incompatible desires for fairness but inequality.)

My problem with Heidi and Johanna is not that the latter is the author of the former, but that one is a nickname and the other is not. However, Adelheid and Johanna would be rather too German, I think, at least in an English-speaking context. 

February 19, 2018 3:22 PM

Hmmm, I DO think Heidi/Johanna is too much. 

February 19, 2018 4:01 AM

love Amy - I have one would be nice with Heidi

Felicity/Bethany is nice too

no I would do Johanna and Heidi

I like the following - I wouldnt double up on any E or L names - unless you do one of each - eg Edmiund/Ludia

Catalina/Veronica or Johanna


Nicholas - love the best from the boys

February 19, 2018 4:08 AM

I love both Heidi and Johanna and do not think it's a problem pairing them together - just sounds like you like German names, or you have German heritage.  I recommend AGAINST matchy twin names unless the tie is subtle - but ethnic heritage is a lovely tie.

I agree re: your point on the long names.  If you don't want nicknames, then I would strike anything that is 4 syllables from your shortlist.  And if you don't want the younger set to be "the twins" you might consider names that are short.  "Catalina and Phineas" are great names, but that's a long shout/email that begs shortening to Cat and Phin.  On the other hand "Pierce and Carmen" you can get out in one breath, as in "Pierce and Carmen, shoes on NOW!!!"

Pierce is your only 1-syllable name, how do you feel about that plus the 2-syllable ones on your list?

I have also noted that many of your names (especially for boys) are ones that might get auto-nicknamed.  If that's NOT what you want, avoid Vincent, Clayton, Edmund, Christian, etc.

Zapping long names, beg-for-nickname names, and Linus (too close to son Lewis), you have:

Amy, Carmen, Carla, Heidi

Kieran, Pierce.

Going on pure style and no-repeat first letters....

B/B = obvious

B/G = Pierce and Carmen (both stately traditional names which go well with your first two)

G/G = ONe C name plus either Amy or Heidi.  (avoid paring Amy + Heidi or Carmen + Carla)

February 19, 2018 10:58 AM

Haha I love the one breath shout test! Pierce and Carmen do sound very nice together. 

February 19, 2018 8:14 PM

Yes, that is definitely why I wanted to avoid two long names together. Every morning, it's "Lewis and Eleanor, get dressed! Lewis and Eleanor, eat your breakfast! Lewis and Eleanor, brush your teeth!" I can't imagine adding another two names to that (although I am living in hope ... by the time twins are at school, the older two might just do things themselves without being told!)

February 20, 2018 3:10 AM

Ha, I am here to report that this kids doing things themselves thing doesn't really seem to kick in when I hoped, but on the other hand that when you reach a critical mass of children, you can pit them against each other and make a race of it. Our four-child house has gone industrial with a morning checklist with pictograms for prereaders on the wall, so I just need to chant "CHECKLIST!" and "On task!". And generally, I think that summoning four kids en masse works great. When I am rallying my children at an event where there are other children present, I use "Surname children!" or "Surnames, line up!" -- and I reserve individual names for when a particular child is needing an individual instruction. I think we started doing the collective with child #3, who happens to have a hefty four-syllable name... but I don't think that it's a reason to go with shorter names necessarily. Indeed, I really find the variation in kids' name lengths to be very pleasing on the occasion that I need to bellow all their names in succession.

As for names, I think I'd approach this as an exercise in naming two individual children who happen to be joining your family at the same time, as in, I'd pick the most favorite name that makes your heart sing, and then do the same thing again. I like eclectic and you have the opportunity to reconfigure your "style" as you double the number of kids. I would avoid reusing E/L initials if you have a choice about it, but not make it an ironclad rule if you have a name you love. I would avoid matching twin initials for bureaucratic reasons. 

Caspian and Lewis definitely would make me immediately wonder whether the parents were Narnia fans, but it sounds like that IS the case so I don't think it's a problem to get to talk to people about where you got such super names. I'd avoid Caspian and Edmund, together though. Great names, though: both in a class with one of my kids (and another Edmund for another one of my kids) and it's really delightful to encounter those names in the wild so often. One of the Edmunds has a sister named Eleanor. :)


February 20, 2018 4:07 AM

Amazing advice, thank you so much - on both the naming and the actual parenting of four kids! I am wondering how the logistics of it will work out (having four kids, I mean) ... but it's all part of the adventure.


I do like the advice of using the surname as the collective name. We have a very unusual surname so that would work. Eleanor is actually one of two in her class this year and she is known as "Eleanor LN" by the teachers and kids, so I think she is getting quite attached to it.



February 19, 2018 8:21 PM

The thing with Johanna and Heidi - I'm leaning towards Johanna as my favourite from the girls' list (among other things, it's a gentle twist on my mum's name, which would be lovely), and DH really likes Heidi. We don't have ANY German heritage (our kids are a mix of several different European cultures - French and Irish on my side, English and Norwegian on DH's) though before it was mentioned here, I hadn't really thought about them both being German names - just made the "Heidi" connection (which is Swiss-German, I presume).


I'll run your ideas re short names past DH. He did agree that two long names might be too much given that we're not natural nicknamers (well, our kids have plenty of nns, but nothing actually related to their names - and I find that now they're getting older, I'm using the affectionate pet names much less).


February 20, 2018 10:00 AM

Heidi feels very nicknamey to me, especially in your list of classic names. The English form of the full name is usually Adelaide, but Alice comes from the same root (by a slightly different route). I think it'd be a fun name-geeky thing to use Heidi as a nickname for an Adelaide or Alice, and as sisters, Johanna and Adelaide/Alice would not evoke "Swiss Alps" the way Johanna and Heidi do.

In my experience, none of the reasons for avoiding longer names (too many kids, long surname, not wanting nicknames) are actually a problem in day-to-day life. Die-hard nicknamers will lengthen names if they're too short, once you have more than two kids you don't call them en masse by given name even if all the names are single-syllable, and the length of one's full name doesn't really ever affect anything. (If you're really lazy, you can develop a nice florid signature using just your initials.)

February 20, 2018 11:12 AM

Given that Heidi comes from the part where Adelaide and Alice differ from Adelheid I think it’s would be confusing for this German speaker, like nicknaming your daughter Beth even  though she’s a birth certificate Eliza. I thunk Heidi is well established enough as a name that it doesn’t have to be short for something else, though it certainly can be. I have a Heide (full name) in my family who is a senior citizen.

February 20, 2018 10:31 PM

I do love both Adelaide and Alice, but Adelaide is already taken in our family and I feel like Alice is too close to Lewis. I'll have to talk to DH again about all the options (we have an hour free from the kids on Sundays which has become our weekly "name discussion" time, so it will have to wait 'til then :) )

February 19, 2018 10:55 AM

I don't think that they are that much all over the place style wise; a lot of them strike me as classic, gentle names which is the feeling I get about Lewis and Eleanor. 

From your girls' list my favourites are Bethany, Felicity, Harriet and Lydia, but I think Johanna, Mirabel and Adriana would also fit in well.

From the boys' list I like Adrian, Edmund, Kieran, Nicholas and Vincent. I also like Linus and Lawrence but I think they are possibly too similar to Lewis, and I love Caspian but to me it feels like more of a style departure with your older kids names. 

So for pairs based purely on sound I like: 

g/g: Bethany & Lydia, Felicity & Harriet, Felicity & Lydia, Harriet & Johanna, Lydia & Adriana

b/b: Adrian & Nicholas, Edmund & Kieran, Edmund & Nicholas, Kieran & Vincent, Adrian & Vincent

g/b: Felicity & Adrian, Harriet & Nicholas, Bethany & Vincent, Adriana & Kieran, Lydia & Edmund (this would give the twins the reverse b/g initials to their older siblings, which could be a sweet connection for them, but I might avoid if you're planning more babies!)

February 19, 2018 8:31 PM

Thank you for your ideas, and good to see you like a lot of the names with Lewis and Eleanor. It's really helpful to see all the different combinations written out.


I've been hanging on to Linus because I think it really is my favourite out of all the boys' names (and DH loves it also) but I am wrestling with it being too close to Lewis. (I don't mind letting go of Lawrence because I don't love it as much). On the other hand DH's favourite is Edmund - which I worry about being too similar to Eleanor. For some reason, having the same "E" sound at the beginning is more jarring to me than Lewis and Linus together - they are clearly very similar, but it sounds more pleasant to me than Eleanor and Edmund.


I have thought about using Edmund and Lydia, or Edmund and Linus, together. I'm preeeeetty sure we won't have any more kids (twin pregnancy is HARD!! I don't think I'll have any desire to be pregnant ever again!) but DH is sure I'll change my mind later, and you're right that it would lock us into having to use L or E names.

February 19, 2018 11:34 AM

I see you’ve mentioned that you like Johanna and Heidi together. I really, really like this for you, and I don’t think the author/book connection is too much. Edmund and Caspian, absolutely, but not that. I love Linus, but I agree with everyone who said nix it with a brother named Lewis.

I agree a lot of your name choices sound stylistically different. I personally I enjoy an eclectic sibling set, but this seems to be something you want to avoid. Understandable, especially with twins.

Some pairing suggestions (sorry for repeats):

Kieran and Pierce 

Vincent and Lawrence

Amy and Carla

Mirabel and Catalina

Adrian and Felicity

Christian and Bethany


February 19, 2018 8:37 PM

Funny you mention Edmund and Caspian - yes, the reason we love those names is because of Narnia (and we already have Lewis - who was named for C.S. Lewis!) I realised straight away we couldn't use them together.


I don't mind having an eclectic set, but I think that Lewis and Eleanor are quite similar styles of name, so I don't know about going in a different direction - but I don't know, really? Does it make a difference that we're naming two babies at the same time - i.e. we could use two names quite dissimilar to Lewis and Eleanor. Would that be less jarring than having just one baby with a different style of name?

February 19, 2018 8:57 PM

To answer that last question, yes, I do think that adding two names at once -- especially since you only have two now, so you're doubling your set -- gives you the opportunity to define your overall set however you want. 

February 19, 2018 7:25 PM

I am loving the combination of Lewis, Eleanor, Felicity, and Harriet!  I'm tempted to choose Caspian and Edmund from the boy list, but they're rather Narnia together.  Perhaps Edmund and Caspar would work though.  I like Linus but it's too similar to Lewis.  Which brings me to Phineas and Edmund, only if it were me I would try not to duplicate the E initial... and my next choice of Nicholas repeats the ending of Phineas (and Lewis, really).  I'm just striking out on combinations from your boy list!  Maybe I'm being too picky about the E initial and -as ending though.  For one boy and one girl, I like Lewis, Eleanor, Felicity, and Caspian.

February 19, 2018 8:42 PM

Yes, that is something that would potentially bother me, having either the same starting initial or ending sound (although, as I mentioned above, I'm finding it hard to give up on Linus because I just love it so much). I do really like Edmund and Caspian together - but way too Narnia, especially with older brother Lewis. DH has already vetoed Casper, which I do like also.


February 19, 2018 8:58 PM

re: Linus... I think that this is a situation of you loving a name because it really reminds you of a name that you've already used and therefore *really* love. Lewis and Linus have more in common that Eleanor and Edmund, but you see the similarity more in your husband's preference than yours.

February 19, 2018 9:26 PM

I think you are probably right. We definitely considered Linus when I was pregnant with Lewis, along with a couple of others (Christian, Kieran, Edmund were always at the top of our list) but I knew when pregnant with Eleanor that we couldn't do Linus then (they're only a year and a half apart, so too close). I thought that maybe with a bit more distance between them - Lewis will be nearly 6 when twins are born - it might make a difference, but given I get Lewis and DH's name mixed up all the time (and they are very, very different sounds) I suppose I'd have no hope with two sons named Lewis and Linus.

February 21, 2018 6:58 PM

For me the similarity in Lewis and Linus is them having the same starting and ending sound, with soft vowels in the middle, and both being two syllables. I feel like they wouldn't pass the holler test (if you were calling up the stairs or across the garden for one boy would they be able to hear which one you were calling) and while you're always going to call a child by their sibling's name occasionally I think I would be tripping over Lewis and Linus all the time. 

On the other hand with Edmund and Eleanor while they share an initial sound they don't have any other sound in common and are a different number of syllables so for me they really are not similar at all. Plus the fact that they are boy and girl will keep them more separate as well.

February 22, 2018 6:16 PM

This! (I know an Eleanor and Edmund sibling set, actually, and it’s not a problem. if it should become one, Ellie and Ned are as distinct as it gets, sound-wise.)

March 2, 2018 7:16 PM

I am back with a whittled-down list! DH got me to list the names in order of how much I like them, and based on that we had a good discussion of what we do both really like.


For a girl, I'm pretty set on using Johanna, but less certain about a boys' name. DH still likes Edmund the best so I think if we end up with a boy and a girl, he will let me use Johanna and I'll let him use Edmund.


If we have two girls, the two top possibilities are:


Johanna and Catalina

Johanna and Felicity


(Catalina and Felicity being the two names we both like the most after Johanna).


And for two boys - this is what I'm not sure about:


Edmund and Caspian (too Narnia? Caspian is probably my top choice, but with Edmund ... and older brother Lewis - what do you think?)


or alternatively:

Edmund and Kieran - I think this is our second choice, and it avoids the overt Narnia reference!


I really appreciate all your help with our initial list, so if you could share your thoughts on these names (including how they fit in with siblings Lewis and Eleanor) that would be very helpful also. Thank you! :)



March 2, 2018 7:40 PM

Johanna and Felicity,  Catalina is nice too or Caterina

Edmund and Kieran

March 2, 2018 8:54 PM

Lewis, Edmund, and Caspian would be quite the trio! I'm not sure how long it would take me to notice the "theme" if I encountered them in real life; on screen, it's pretty immediate. But: I don't necessarily think it's a problem. You could keep some sort of small prize on hand (business card with "winner" printed on it or some such) for anyone who comments on it. :-) If you were purposely choosing these names to keep with a theme, that would be a different story, but if they're just the names you happen to like best, then the Narnia thing can be treated as a fun bonus.

I like Johanna and Catalina together for twin sisters: they hit many of the same style notes (multisyllabic, international) but are totally distinct in sound and appearance.

Johanna and Edmund is also a good pairing, especially given that they're mom's favorite name + dad's favorite name. I like how both names would be totally plausible for characters in a historical novel set in 16th century England or Wales. (Come to think of it, so would Lewis and Eleanor.)

March 3, 2018 1:42 AM

Edmund and Caspian are both great names, but I would hesitate to use them together, and I would be even more reluctant with an older brother Lewis in the mix. I don't think it's an absolute dealbreaker since your sons will not be a package in most parts of their lives once they hit school and once they become adults especially, so I wouldn't let it stop you from using your favorite names... but my own kids are named after far more obscure books and even those I wasn't willing to double-down on namesakes from, because *I* would know. I think what I'm saying here is I wouldn't find it usable but I think you need to decide whether it's usable for you, and perhaps for you it's an enjoyable opportunity to have CS Lewis theology discussions more often and it's not such a problem at all. 

And, on the plus side, going all-in with the Narnia theme makes sure none of the brothers feels left out. 

March 3, 2018 6:10 PM

I really like Johanna and Edmund, I think they make a good set and it's nice that it would be one favourite name from each parent.

Johanna and Felicity would be my pick for g/g, I slightly prefer that combination as a set and with the older children's names. Catalina is in no way a bad or problematic choice though.

With the b/b options I'm really not sure; I don't know that I would have made the Narnia connection on my own, at least I certainly don't think it would be my immediate thought. The name Caspian definitely makes me think of the Narnia books, but secondary to thinking of the sea, however Edmund doesn't necessarily evoke Narnia to me and Lewis even less so. I think the fact that Lewis was/is a Narnia reference to you maybe changes how you view them and that lucubratrix is right that you need to decide if it's something you're comfortable with. If someone made the connection and asked you about it would you be happy to talk about it or would you feel silly/embarrassed? Would the thought that people might make the connection and not mention it but come to the conclusion that you were big Narnia fans bother you? If the answer is you'd be happy to discuss it, and not worried about people deciding that then I think you're fine to go ahead and use them, if either idea bothers you then you should probably skip that combination of names. I love the name Caspian and think it would be great for you to use your favourite name if you can be cheerful about/deal with the connection. How does your husband feel about the Narnia thing?

I do also like Kieran and I like the way Edmund and Kieran would fit in with the older children's names, I feel like Edmund goes really well with Eleanor and Kieran with Lewis and so overall it makes quite a cohesive set. 

March 3, 2018 7:09 PM

I'm with you on Johanna and Felicity as opposed to Catalina. I really like how they're both classic and multisyllabic, which makes them feel nicely cohesive, but none of the sounds repeat, which gives the set a really lovely contrast. Johanna and Catalina are both a-heavy, both end in -na, which isn't as pleasing to my ear as Johanna and Felicity. Catalina is a lovely name, but with Johanna I prefer Felicity.

(By the way, are you saying Johanna with the H pronounced or silent? Doesn't change my answer, just wondering.)

March 4, 2018 12:14 PM

I also prefer Felicity with Johanna, even though I love the name Catalina by itself. I think Johanna reads quite Germanic for me, and Catalina very Spanish/Latin American, and together as siblings my brain doesn't entirely know what to do with that information. Felicity meanwhile tones down the German connotation of Johanna, as it is certainly used in English too.

I personally find Caspian and Edmund a little too much. It's been a long time since I read Prince Caspian, but I remember him as a largely heroic character, whereas Edmund, although ultimately redeemed and probably a more interesting character, spends at least part of the second book as a traitor. Given that some people are sure to make the connection, I would ideally want a little more parity in their namesakes (i.e. I think twins named Jane and Elizabeth for Jane Eyre and Elizabeth Bennet would be great; Elizabeth and Lydia less so).

March 4, 2018 6:39 PM

I think Emily really hits at the heart of why Caspian and Edmund don’t work for me on twins more so than other literary pairings. And I would notice in person: one son has both names in his class this year and I totally made Narnia jokes when I heard that, with 18 buffer names. The exception would be if Edmund were introduced as Ned (all the Edmunds I know are nicknameless).

I’d be more likely to pronounce the name Johanna (with a yo and an audible h and closer to rhyming with Frozen‘s heroine than Anna Banana) in the German way in the company of a twin named Catalina. To me that is a plus because Johanna is one of those names I can never remember the pronunciation of in English contexts.

By EVie
March 4, 2018 7:32 PM

I also am never quite sure how to pronounce Johanna in an English context, though I don't think I'd have trouble once I got clarification on which pronunciation a particular Johanna is using. I will say that visually speaking, I vastly prefer Johanna to Joanna, even when pronounced the same way (it just strikes me as much more elegant and old-fashioned), and I also prefer it pronounced with the H (jo-HAN-uh). I wouldn't guess the German "yo" unless I knew for sure there was a German connection. 

I totally agree with Emily about the mismatch between the German Johanna and the Spanish Catalina. That was my very first thought about that pairing, particularly since I've never seen Catalina outside a Spanish context. They're both lovely names, they just don't really work together for me. Johanna and Katerina would be an almost ideal match, though. I do really like Johanna and Felicity, as I feel Felicity really grounds Johanna in that Victorian English context. Same for Johanna and Edmund.

Also totally agree on Caspian and Edmund. It's too much for me, personally, even without the older brother Lewis thrown in. 

March 4, 2018 10:11 PM

I'm with you on visually preferring Johanna to Joanna and I think that the extreme 1970s peak for the latter is largely to blame for that.

(I wanted to link to the Expert Name Voyager curve showing Johanna and Joanna in parallel, but I couldn't get the link to include the "anna" ending along with the "jo" beginning. I think that it's worth it for you to add it back.)

March 5, 2018 12:30 AM

I think the theme with Johanna and Catalina is "European flair" and that's exactly while I'd feel emboldened to yo-HAH-nah as a first guess, and I'd probably say Catalina with extra Spanish flair rather than flattening the a sounds American-style.

March 5, 2018 3:19 AM

Thank you for all your thoughtful responses. It's so helpful to see how others would react to the different names, and I appreciate some of the issues that you've brought up.


I think after reading all your reactions to Edmund and Caspian together that it would be too much. So ... Edmund and Kieran? Better? I know that Kieran is an old Irish name (as Ciaran - I really like this spelling but DH said no, and I do think Kieran would be easier) but it seems a lot more modern than Lewis, Eleanor and Edmund - because of the 'n' ending which is so ubiquitous these days. In a way though I do feel like Kieran as a twin to Edmund lightens Edmund up a lot, which I like. Sometimes I think that Edmund is quite a stodgy name! I realise they won't always be a "set" but to me it does sound like a pleasant pairing and it seems like some of you agree.


Johanna - we do pronounce it with the "h" (and "J" as opposed to "Y") - so essentially like Jo-Hannah. But I can imagine getting lazy and having it coming out more like Joanna (which to me as an Australian is far less appealing, because it just makes me think of goanna).


I had thought about the German vs. Spanish conundrum of Johanna and Catalina ... I agree that Felicity probably suits the sibling set better. I'll run it past DH - I think Catalina was really his favourite for a girl, although he does like Felicity too, so we'll see.


Glad you all seem to like Johanna and Edmund together!

March 5, 2018 2:43 PM

Edmund and Kieran is great, Edwin and Kieran would be nice too

love the Johanna pronounciation,  love Johanna and Felicity, although Catalina or Caterina are nice too

and yes Johanna and Edmund are lovely

March 5, 2018 4:55 PM

To me Kieran doesn't feel more modern than your other names, but maybe that comes from being in the UK where it's actually declining in popularity and the fact that I know a Kieran my age and one a little younger. I do feel like Kieran "lightens" the set a little.

I would also pronounce the 'h' in Johanna, and say it with a J in an English context.

March 6, 2018 7:16 AM

I love Johanna and that pronounciation and agree with many that it pairs better with Felicity. I also like that each sister would have her own initial letter and ending sound. 

I am a huge C.S. Lewis fan but agree that Edmund and Caspian might be too much, but they are both strong names so if you feel strongly about it, I think they could work.  

I am impressed that you can wait to be surprised on the genders! Best of luck!

March 6, 2018 7:07 PM

I don't feel incredibly strongly about using Edmund and Caspian together; in fact the more I think about it the more I like Edmund and Kieran together (I have liked Kieran for as long as I can remember).


I love having a surprise! I didn't find out with the first two kids, and I found it really helped me get through the last trimester, knowing that I would find out soon. I do wonder though how it would feel to know (and I was tempted to find out this time) but so far I'm glad I haven't found out. I'm 27 weeks now so on the home stretch!

March 7, 2018 2:18 AM

I love the surprise too,  never found out with any of mine

March 7, 2018 5:55 AM

I WISH I could make myself keep it a surprise (or that my husband was more on board with the idea). I love the idea, but so far I've found out both times, in part because I had a strong preference and needed to know if I needed time to get used to the idea. ;-) I feel like if we ever do number 3 I'll be truly agnostic and try and hold off for real....

March 7, 2018 1:31 PM

We tried to keep a surprise for our eldest. It turns out that we're way too good at reading ultrasounds, so even though we were never told anything by a technician or doctor, we were quite sure. (After I helped deliver him, after a few minutes the midwives were all "aren't you going to check if it's a girl or a boy?" and I was all, "oh, right." We didn't even have a girl's name picked out as backup.)

With subsequent children we totally gave up on the concept and ended up on the other extreme, asking about the chromosomal sex after transfer. 

I think the main argument about waiting to find out is that naming discussions are more fun, as this thread shows! 

March 7, 2018 1:58 PM

Before the tech said anything, I realized at my 20 week ultrasound with my last son that my doctor had been very wrong when he guessed girl at the 16 week appointment.  I'm considering not finding out this time but I wonder if it's a boy I might realize it without being told.  Of course I bet the OP's twin ultrasounds are a lot harder to interpret.

March 8, 2018 5:34 AM

You guys are either way better at reading ultrasounds than I am, or image quality is way better in the US. I pretty much need the head pointed out to me, it's so unclear. I guess I could spring for one of those 4D ones, but I find them kind of creepy.

March 8, 2018 10:14 AM

Oh, those *are* creepy! Plus, it's much harder to find the absence of something than its presence on an ultrasound, if you know what I mean.