Elizabeth vs Veronica

Dear ladies, would love love to know your honest thoughts and feelings on the final (I hope) contenders for our little girls that are due very soon. Just to remind you that I am looking for two feminine yet professional-sounding names.

Currently looking at Elizabeth and Veronica. What would you think if you met sisters with those names?!?

Is Veronica too Spanish? Does it sound OK in the UK? ANY ideas will be helpful. Thanks!!!




February 10, 2018 8:23 PM

I think Elizabeth and Veronica meet your criteria and sound nice as a set. Veronica doesn't strike me as particularly Spanish sounding and I think it would work fine as a name here (UK), I don't think anyone would be confused by it or that it would be particularly hard for people to spell/pronounce. 

Having said that I don't really care for the name Veronica (not that that should matter to you if it's the name you love) and think Elizabeth and Natalie would be a really nice combination instead. (Elizabeth and Charlotte also sound great as a set but for me they are just Too Royal to use together, especially for twins. If that doesn't bother you though it would be a good option.)

February 10, 2018 9:26 PM

To me Veronica doesnt sound too Spanish,  I've known a number of Veronica's in Australia


I think Elizabeth and Victoria  go a little better than Elizabeth and Veronica  - they are both ok though

February 10, 2018 10:10 PM

There's a reason that Elizabeth and Victoria feel like they go together! Just give them both the middle name Regina to complete the effect :)

February 10, 2018 9:29 PM

They are both beautiful, classic names. I know a lovely teenage Veronica who uses her full name and is still sometimes Ronnie to family. 


February 10, 2018 11:27 PM

I've met a few people named Veronica, and none of them were even remotely Spanish.

I would absolutely swoon over sisters named Elizabeth and Veronica.

(Ditto for Elizabeth and Natalie, or Anastasia, or really, any polysyllabic classic feminine name.)

February 11, 2018 3:10 AM

I love Elizabeth, it's my oldest daughter's middle name. Veronica is not my style, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. I know two Veronicas - one is in her 30's and Dominican and uses Vero as a nn, the other is 7 and white American and uses the nn Ronnie almost exclusively. 

If these are the names you love, use them with confidence. 

As another poster mentioned, Charlotte or Victoria would be a bit much with sister Elizabeth especially in the U.K.

February 11, 2018 10:38 PM

I think Veronica is an Italian name!  Well, she was a saint.... so you are going to find variants of that name all over. One of the Veronicas I know is Indonesian.  I though I would chime in that I love and adore the name Veronica, traditional but fresh.  And I think Elizabeth is a boring and dime-a-dozen name.  Not that there is anything wrong with it if YOU like it, but I wanted to add a pro-Veronica voice here! Splendid name!

February 12, 2018 5:31 AM

I'm neutral on Veronica, but I will join the anti-Elizabeth brigade. People come on here worrying about the popularity of things like Audrey, and then you have Elizabeth sitting there at 13 (38 in England and Wales). Something like Sophia may be overused in the current generation, but how many do you actually know (I know two, both from countries where it has been used consistently, and in comparison I must know about 30 Elizabeths)

I think the thing with Elizabeth is that it's so ubiquitous that even if YOU are thinking of Lizzie Bennett or Elizabeth I, I'm likely to be thinking of my mom's neighbour. 

February 12, 2018 5:33 AM

The only Veronica I've actually known was Chilean (and a French-Canadian Véronique), but it still doesn't strike me as particularly latina, probably because of Betty and Veronica from the Archie comics.

By EVie
February 12, 2018 11:10 AM

I know lots of Elizabeths, but it's a perennial classic -- I don't think you name your daughter Elizabeth (or Katherine/Kate, or Sarah) if you are looking for something distinctive. Audrey is a classic, too, but the recent usage pattern is different, so parents looking for a more unusual name could conceivably fall in love with Audrey not realizing the current trends, and be disappointed to find that it's very popular. Or they could have fallen in love with Audrey at a time when it really was more distinctive, and are dismayed to find that everyone else feels the same and it's become common. That sort of thing doesn't happen with Elizabeth, which was never unusual in our lifetimes or even several hundred years before. 

I do think it's a good idea to look at the area under the curve to find a name's true saturation, rather than just look at the popularity at this moment in time. My son's name is pretty much at the lowest point it's ever been, but there are still tons of men with his name in the media, among family and friends, etc. We had no illusions about it being a surprising or distinctive name when we chose it.

Veronica for me is:

1. My sister's middle name (we're of mixed European heritage)

2. Veronica Mars

3. the snobby mean girl from the Saddle Club series

4. Betty and Veronica

Definitely not a primarily Latina name, although it's another one of those pan-European names that I wouldn't make assumptions about.

February 12, 2018 12:50 PM

I tend to think of Elizabeth as the kind of name that's so ubiquitous as to be almost a blank slate—not because it's actually absent of associations, but because the associations are so many and so varied that they kind of cancel each other out. Sort of like white noise, rather than one or a few clear signals. There are plenty of male names with that quality, not so many female; Katherine is an obvious choice (for another royal pairing) but after that the options dwindle.

My primary real-life association for Veronica is my husband's step-grandmother, who was as Midwestern WASP as they come. She went by Ronnie (not sure how she spelled it). To me it's an irretrievably old-lady name (even with Veronica Mars to freshen it up), but that clearly isn't the typical response.

February 12, 2018 4:42 PM

I would say that Anne is another one of those names. I don't know many in real life, but there are many historical figures/TV people/actresses/singers of various generations...

February 12, 2018 9:59 AM

I'm wracking my brain but can only come up with one Elizabeth in my acquaintance, and it's not even her real name, just the persona she's chosen for medieval reenactment. There's one Elizabeth in the elementary school's student directory (out of over 450 students). It's well-represented on the family tree (my daughter's great-grandmothers were Julia, Erzsébet, Erzsébet called Lili, and Edith), but the closest the current generations have gotten is a ten-year-old Lily.

It just goes to show: the popularity numbers are utterly meaningless for actual real-life name encounters and experiences.

February 12, 2018 12:45 PM

Hmm, I can think of at least one Elizabeth you know (at least virtually) :-). There may also be others who you don't think of as Elizabeth because they go by Liz or Betty or Ellie (I know or have known at least one of each of these).

February 12, 2018 2:56 PM

Indeed! I was once in a group of six women and four little girls: four of the women were named Elizabeth and the other two were Mary and Mary Ellen. One of the girls was named Mary. We had a good laugh over it.

February 12, 2018 8:05 PM

I wasn't thinking of virtual acquaintances -- I was trying to picture faces to go with the name. :-)

February 12, 2018 6:35 PM

I know two Sophia's (well one is a Sofia) and one Sophie, all under 15. I only know one Elizabeth, who goes exclusively by Lizzie (so it took me a minute to even remember she's really an Elizabeth), who's in her 30s. 

February 13, 2018 5:44 AM

Interesting. I suppose I can see why people like Elizabeth if you really have never met any... I honestly think 30 is a conservative estimate. The number of Lizzes who have passed through my frame of reference is truly astounding, and with ages ranging from late 20s to late 60s. I also know younger Elizabeths who don't go by Liz. And that's not even starting on the Lisas (who I accept are probably not Elizabeths).

February 13, 2018 12:38 PM

That's an insane number of Elizabeths! As far as I can figure, I know three in real life and one virtually. The ones in real life are a 43 year old in-law cousin, a 39 year old older sister of a former classmate, and a 5-year-old daughter of a high school friend. Michael and Daniel are the only two names I can think of that reach double digits.

February 13, 2018 1:40 PM

David is the only name I can think of that gets to even half a dozen. (Brother-in-law, cousin's son, neighbor, two good friends, at least one aquaintance...) I guess I just don't know that many people.

February 13, 2018 5:05 PM

I may be more flexible with my definition of "know," to include parents' neighbours, barista's girlfriend, ex-clients etc.

Michael and Dave are definitely double digits too. And quite possibly Matthew. And in Spain I feel like I know double digits of pretty much everyone (certainly Maria, Marta, Anna, Marc, Jordi, Alex...) but then it is a community that uses a fairly small pool of names.

February 13, 2018 5:17 PM

No, I was being just as broad in my knowing! Maaaaybe there is another Elizabeth that I haven't thought of, but it's definitely not a runaway hit in my circles.

And I know two Emilys (and one Emilie) -- one of whom is the above-mentioned in-law cousin Elizabeth's 6 year old daughter. 

February 13, 2018 5:59 PM

I was using "know" to mean "have personally met more than once", but even if I broaden it to a "know of/friend-of-a-friend" category it would only add a second Elizabeth to my tally that I can think of right now; my Mum works with someone who has a daughter named that, but I have never even met the colleague, let alone her child. Of course I could be forgetting one or two.

February 13, 2018 5:51 PM

I'm right there with you, I can't think of any name where the number of people I personally know with it gets to double figures. Either I'm a dreadfully unsociable person or I'm in an incredibly diverse naming environment (really it probably has at least something to do with the fact that what I do for work is quite isolated so I don't have a whole office full of people or a bunch of clients bolstering the name numbers). 

Emily that really is an insane number of Elizabeths to know! I can certainly understand why you would have name fatigue in those circumstances.

February 13, 2018 6:34 PM

I wonder if Elizabeths may sometimes fly under the radar? I just looked at our student directory; in a student body of less than a thousand, there are at least four Elizabeths, but at least two of them go exclusively by some other nickname (one Liz and one similar to Libby). In fact, "Libby" works for me and is sitting outside my office right this minute, and it didn't occur to me to count her when I was trying to tally Elizabeths who I know.

February 13, 2018 9:23 PM

This is so interesting to me! In my 8th grade class there were FIVE girls named Elizabeth Ann/e! Beth, Liz, and three Elizabeths (out of about 150 kids). Crazy. 

By mk
February 12, 2018 12:46 PM

I don't think of Veronica as Spanish or...any one particular culture, really. It shows up in many languages.

Elizabeth and Veronica are great names.