Ideas for a sibling

Hello all :)

I am not currently expecting but DH and I were discussing possible future child names and I thought I'd get your opinion for fun! Our son is Leo Alexander and his name fits him perfectly. We have some top contenders for girls but we are both totally stumped for boys names. Leo was by far and away my favorite boys name so I'm hoping all of you expert namers will give me some fresh ideas. For reference our last names is 2 syllables and starts with a "D". 

 

Which of these girl names do you like with Leo?

1. Eliza - this is what Leo probably would have been named if he had been a girl. This is my husband's favorite. My only hang up is that people may hear her name as "Liza" or try to use this as a nickname and I'm not a fan of that name. Does anyone else think that would actually be an issue or am I over-thinking?

2. Nora - I have loved this name for a very long time but it's the most popular of our choices.

3. Violet - another name I've liked for a while but my husband goes back and forth with this one. I am not typically a fan of nicknames but I know"Vi" is a natural nickname and I think that's cute.

4. Alice - I like this name but some days I like it more than others so it's at the bottom of the list right now. Anytime I meet someone who has used the name Alice I love it. 

 

For boys I'm completely stumped and looking for totally new ideas!! Other names on our previous list (though none came close to Leo) were:

1. Henry - my husband and I both love this but it seems extremely popular.

2. Milo - DH liked this one but I couldn't get past "Milo and Otis". Obviously we couldn't use this now because of the similar "o" ending (this also rules out Theo and Hugo, which were both briefly discussed).

3. Oscar - we just kept coming back to "Oscar the grouch" and we know a few people who's dogs have this name.

4. Archer - I like it but I don't like the connection to the cartoon. DH never really got on board and I'm not sure it works with Leo.

5. Malcolm - I liked it but DH did not. I could maybe get him to agree to use it for a middle in the future but neither of us are thrilled about the nickname "Mal" if it's a first name.

 

So all of this is currently hypothetical but (as I'm sure most of you understand) fun to think about! Thanks in advance!

Replies

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July 5, 2017 8:15 PM

...but but but Malcolm! Captain Malcolm Reynolds! How can anyone not like his name?

Sorry, don't have time to comment on your full list right now, but I had to get that off my chest. :)

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July 6, 2017 9:57 AM

Hahaha :) That is actually one of the main reasons this name was on our list! I'd love to hear any other ideas you have when you have time!

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July 5, 2017 9:28 PM

I'm not sure I agree that a brother named Leo makes Milo and Hugo unusable.  Theo I do agree is too close because it's a direct rhyme.  But the others seem OK to me.  They all end in the "o" but they have different vowel sounds that make them sound pretty different overall.

Think of it this way:  If you had an Anna, I don't think you'd automatically rule out all the other two-syllable girls' names that end with "a," would you?  I doubt anyone would blink twice at sisters named Anna and Laura, or Mila and Nora, or Sara and Jenna.   I don't think Leo and Hugo are any closer to that, other than the ending being a bit more unusual.  

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July 8, 2017 9:24 AM

Now that you point out the girls names ending in "a" I have no idea why I assumed two boys names ending in "o" shouldn't go together! Thanks! I probably like Hugo the best out of the "o" ending names but DH is not a fan.  I'm very open to totally new boy suggestions but I won't automatically rule out "o" ending boys names now :)

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July 5, 2017 11:18 PM

I love Leo, and for his sister my favorite from your list is Nora. I could see Maura, Molly, and Clara fitting in well too. For boys, I love Henry with Leo. I'd also consider changing Milo to Miles, and my favorite Malcolm nickname is Mac, so I wouldn't consider Mal to be the default. I'd add Oliver to the list, and I wouldn't worry about popularity -- a good name's a good name, even if everyone else agrees. ;)

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July 6, 2017 10:59 AM

Thank you for these suggestions! I'm glad to get a vote for Nora :) I love Clara - one of my best friends now has a Klara so it's out for us but you are right on target with our style. I love that you have a different nickname for Malcolm too! Maybe I could get that on to a future short list with that option!

I tend to get hung up on "popularity" and trying to find that perfect name that is familiar but not too popular. It's nice to have an outside reminder to just pick a name you love!

 

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July 6, 2017 11:34 AM

I too have a Leo (He turned 31 yesterday) His twin is Simon. But that's neither here or there for you So...

For you, a sister for Leo should be Violet They've both got that 'O' sound and they look beautiful together.

Malcolm would be an excellent choice for a brothr to Leo And another nn for Malcolm could be "Colm" like Colm Meany.

Milo is not a deal breaker because of the O ending. It doesn't sound much like Leo at all. I wouldn't bat an eye at brother Leo & Milo. I'd name a brother to Leo & Simon, Cosmo. Another O ender. So Hugo works too for you.

 

Those were just some thouhts I had Hope they entertain!

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July 8, 2017 10:03 AM

I like Simon and it's great with Leo - I'll add that to the list! I also like Violet even more after reading your comment about the repeating "o" sound in both :)

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By mk
July 6, 2017 12:34 PM

I don't see who Milo needs to be ruled out because of Leo. I know someone with 3 boys, all with -o ending names and it's fine because they are still distinct names (Leo and Theo, however would be a bit much). Milo and Henry are the ones I like best.

For girls, I like Violet the best, but really all of them are lovely. I'd go with the one you like the most and not worry about matching with the sibling or popularity. Neither is a big deal.

I think most people will have no problem with saying Eliza.

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July 6, 2017 1:43 PM

I don't think Eliza is likely to be mistaken for Liza much, except maybe by the generation of people who would've named their own children Liza -- today's grandparents and great-grandparents. Eliza has always been more popular than Liza, except in the 1950s and 60s (when Liza was on the upward side of its witch-hat trajectory).

As others have said, don't put too much emphasis on name popularity. Nora is a lovely true antique revival.

I'm prone to mixing up names, but I tend to emphasize beginnings rather than ends: I think I'd have more trouble with Leo and Lewis than with Leo and Milo. That said, I second the suggestion mentioned somewhere upthread of Miles instead of Milo -- no Milo and Otis, no repeated ending, but still basically the same name.

Would one of the more obscure Os- names appeal? Oswin, Osmund, Oswald, Osborn?

Instead of Archer, what about Asher? Or if you're on the lookout for a true "everyone knows it but it's not popular" choice, there's always Archibald.

I echo my sister's comment: but... but... Malcolm Reynolds! But if your spouse isn't convinced, maybe try Callum or Colm on him? (Columb likely will not fly, but you could start with that as a sort of desensitization campaign.)

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By EVie
July 6, 2017 2:43 PM

I have to third the thumbs-up for Malcolm Reynolds. Although, my own personal Firefly crush was Simon (I can't help it, I have a thing for the dark, scholarly type). So... how about Simon?

My new baby nephew is a Leo Alexander as well, and my sister and I squabbled a bit over the name Leo, so another big thumbs-up to your taste! The great thing about Leo is that it's totally flexible in style. It's a timeless classic but also currently in fashion, it works as easily on an old man or a little kid. I would not blink to see a sibset of Leo and Grady, or Leo and John, or Leo and Bartholomew. So I think you really have total freedom to do whatever you want. My sister's likely name choices for future sibs for her Leo include Casper, Sophie and Charlotte. I named my son Thomas (he came before Leo, but I was a nice sister and left it for her), and my list for a future son includes Theodore, Arthur, Julian, Oliver, Sebastian, James, Nico. 

I like all the names on your list, though, and I think they would all be fine with Leo. 

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July 8, 2017 1:10 PM

Thank you for all of these thoughts and suggestions! I LOVE that there are so many Firefly fans on this site! I'll see what DH thinks of Simon next ;)

I'm glad to hear so many people say that Eliza being called "Liza" will probably not be too much of a problem. That was my one major hang up with this name. My husband's second favorite is Nora and I'm love all three (Nora, Eliza, and Violet) - so it's good to get another person supporting the slightly more "popular" name. 

I've never been a big fan of Miles - I'm not sure why since it's so close to Milo. I really like your suggestion of Asher instead of Archer. I have really liked the name Asher and took it off the list thinking it wouldn't "fit" with Leo. So I'll put it back on the list! I'm also going to get DH's opinion on Callum. Thanks again!

 

 

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July 6, 2017 5:40 PM

I think all your girl names go great with Leo (as a previous coment said that is the very nice thing about Leo; it fits with a lot of styles). Eliza-I don't think you would have much of a problem with people mishearing as Liza, the E sound at the begining is quite pronounced. And I think people don't have the same tendency to automatically nickname anymore, and if anyone does one polite correction should be enough to stop them. The only thing is if your daughter herself decides to use Liza once she's old enough to take ownership of her name. Nora and Violet are probably my favourites of your list, although I slightly prefer Norah spelled with an h at the end. :) Alice is not my style but I actually think it would be charming next to Leo, it's sweet and classic and I'd be happy to meet a little girl named that.

Of your boys list I like Henry best both on it's own and with Leo; I think it has the same cute classic style as Leo and the same quality of working for a little boy or a grown man.  Milo I am going to disagree with other people and say I do think the sound is too similar to Leo (although I agree Hugo works fine with Leo so it's not all -o ending names, I think it is having the l in Milo that makes it too same-y for me) but I like the suggestion of Miles. Oscar is a slightly doggy name now but I don't think that matters, and I like that his name would start with the last letter of Leo's name, it's a cute little connection. Archer I don't love and agree with you that it's not the best to go with Leo. Malcom I'm sorry but I agree with your husband, I don't like it and actually think it's the worst match for Leo on your list; Malcom feels middle-aged and clunky to me and if I met brothers called Leo and Malcom I'd feel very sorry for Malcom.

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July 6, 2017 8:42 PM

1. The suggested name is actually Malcolm, not Malcom. 2. But, but, but, Malcolm Reynolds! Why would anyone feel sorry for a boy named after the best captain in the 'verse?

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July 7, 2017 7:57 PM

Well Malcolm is a little better I guess (leaving aside all the people who will do what I did and misread it :p) but I still don't like it much. Will I get lynched if I say I've never watched Firefly? *hides*

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July 7, 2017 8:06 PM

Not lynched, just given homework: thou shalt go out and watch Firefly. :) 

Also, I'm a little bit envious that you get to watch it for the first time: https://xkcd.com/1053/

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July 7, 2017 8:29 PM

It took my husband quite a few years to convince me to watch Firefly (cowboys? Uch. In space? Double uch.) but I absolutely loved it. It has so much heart and the characters are so well-rounded and the dialogue is so smart. (I'm pretending that I never watched Serenity.)

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July 7, 2017 8:46 PM

I liked Serenity! Especially River. But I have been known to pretend that a certain scene involving Wash towards the end of the movie never happened. Denial, it ain't just a river in Egypt. :)

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July 8, 2017 4:19 PM

It's actually been on my to-watch list for years. Both my sisters love it so I'm not even sure how I havent watched it yet! 

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July 11, 2017 2:07 PM

You will come around on Malcolm after you see it. And Jayne for a man. 

 

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July 7, 2017 9:12 PM

Am I the only who thinks of Malcolm as equal parts Malcolm X and Malcolm in the Middle?

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July 7, 2017 9:24 PM

My first association is the Scottish kings, especially Malcolm Canmore, ruler for 35 years, husband of St Margaret of Scotland, and inspiration fot the character Malcolm in Macbeth. To me it's a name very much associated with Scottish history and heritage.

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July 7, 2017 11:55 PM

For some reason even though I know of its Scottish history and the various Scottish figures, particularly King Malcolm III, with the name, Malcolm X and Malcolm in the Middle are still the overriding associations when I hear the name out of any other context.

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July 7, 2017 9:43 PM

Haha! Those are always my associations with this name.

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July 8, 2017 12:43 AM

I know who Malcolm X is, but I have no idea about Malcolm in the Middle. Malcolm Gladwell?

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July 8, 2017 1:15 AM

It was a sitcom in the early 2000s. Malcolm was the middle child of the family.

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July 6, 2017 6:01 PM

Eliza is lovely, and I don't think anyone would get it shorten or mishear it as Liza.   Nora is also lovely, and I wouldn't let popularity sway you if you really like it.  If you can’t get past the popularity, perhaps Cora or Nola?  I also like Violet, though if your husband isn't fully on board, I'd suggest eliminating it.   I like Alice, and it sounds like it could be a stealthy serious contender for you.  I’d probable leave it on the list for now.

I like Henry, and see my comments about popularity above.  Milo is fantastic, and I consider the Milo and Otis connection a plus! My oldest adored that movie, and I have very fond memories of it, despite watching it a thousand times a day. How about Miles?  No movie association and it doesn't end in O. With Oscar, I would personally just embrace the Grouch connection, I can already see themed announcements and nursery decorations.  It’s a nice name and I think would fit well with other vintage revivals.

I like Archer with Leo, and wouldn’t worry too much about cartoon character.  I like the show, but it is not for kids, so I doubt he'd have any problems with his peers because of it.  You may get a comment or two from adults who watch it, but I think a raised eyebrow and a comment along the lines of "You realize this is a baby you're talking about" should be all that's needed.   Perhaps Archibald, Archie, Asher or Fletcher instead?  Malcolm is a great name!  I really wouldn't worry about Mal as a nickname.  People don't assume nicknames the way they used to, and Mal just doesn't seem super intuitive to me, perhaps because of the negative word association.  You could also offer Colm as a nickname, or use Colm as a stand-alone option.  

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July 11, 2017 2:14 PM

Thank you for your thoughts on popularity and also the Liza/Eliza fear I was having. I think I would get over the popularity of Nora and just use it if it became our first choice! Thank you for all of your suggestions as well! I definitely like Asher and added that to the list.  

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By Lexy
July 9, 2017 1:59 AM

I love your sons name. 

I don't really like Eliza but I can see it's appeal. I don't think people will mishear the name as Liza unless they have hearing problems. 

I love the name Nora. It is a classic name with no potential for nicknames (at least nicknames that can be used to shorten the name). It may be popular but don't let popularity deter you from using the name you love. 

Again I love Violet. The nickname Vi probably would be used a lot so you would need to love the Vi nickname as well to use Violet I believe. 

Again I love the name Alice but with the spelling Alys. If you aren't sure about the name then nix it. 

Henry is extremely popular and way more fusty in my opinion then the name Leo which sounds fun to me. This is just my impression so take with a grain of salt. Despite the popularity I do like Henry.

I love Milo. I don't think the repeated O ending is a deal breaker, in fact I think they go well together. You shouldn't rule out a name just because they share a repeated ending. Would you rule out Eliza if you had a daughter already named Anna? However I would say using Leo has ruled out Theo as their pronounciations are way to similar. Hugo is the same as Milo.

Oscar is a nice name. Different ending to Leo which I think your looking for. I didn't know about Oscar the grouch so had to look it up. However I wouldn't let that deter you from using the name. Same with the dogs called Oscar. Your child will be around for far longer then the dogs ever will be. 

I feel like Archer is an outlier on your list. I don't think it has much history as the other names on your list. Plus if your DH has never been on board I would cross it off the list anyway.

I have never liked the name Malcolm particularly because I have never liked the nickname Mal or Malcolm in the middle tv series. If your DH didn't like the name, then again cross it off the list. It is important that both of you love the name you end up using.

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July 9, 2017 1:08 PM

This is probably echoed in some ways above since there are a ton of responses that I haven't read... So forgive me if I repeat anyone :)

Firstly, I love Malcolm. It is 100000% my future son's name, if I were to ever have a boy. It is a family name in my family, so I would probably have used it regardless of whether I like it or not- but I do like it! It's a great choice IMO.

 

Archer, Milo, and Henry are all very "on trend" right now. I can't help but think of Milo & Otis, the pet movie, when I hear Milo, though... Similarly, the Oscar association is with your already-mentioned issue, Oscar the Grouch. I just can't get past that. I think Henry sounds great with Leo, even though Henry is very popular right now.

For girls, I love, love, love Eliza! I only know one Eliza, and I have never heard of her being called Liza. I also really like Nora, Violet, and Alice. Nora is already very popular, and both Violet and Alice seem to be climbing in popularity, as well. Just something to consider. I think any of them could work with Leo, though, especially Violet. Very cute. I wonder if you would consider Juliet, Lydia, Gemma, Louisa, or Cecilia? Those seem to fit with your list.

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July 11, 2017 2:41 PM

Thanks for your thoughts! It's good to hear that you have personal experience with an Eliza and you haven't heard of anyone calling her Liza. I love Juliet! Definitely on my list, potentially as a middle name because I have a few Julies in the family already. I also really like Lydia as well. Thanks again!

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July 9, 2017 5:55 PM

Love Violet to go with Leo. Also like Nora as well. Always loved Lenora, such a different yet pretty name. Also think Ivy, Isla or Maeve would pair really well with Leo.

For boys I love Callum paired with Leo. Phineas love the nickname Finn. Charlie, Felix, Silas, Dexter, Knox, Axel, Jasper, Calvin, Maxwell.

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July 11, 2017 2:58 PM

Thank you for all of these suggestions! This is really helpful! I love Maeve and have added that one to the list for girls. I also love Isla but I think I would go nuts with people mispronouncing it.  I really like Jasper - I'll have to get DH's opinion on that one! I also really like all of the "x" names, especially Knox and Maxwell. Max used to be a top contender but we had a lot of friends that used some version of that name before we had Leo. Thank you again!

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July 15, 2017 3:28 AM

all the girls names are great - I like Alice best with Leo or Nora,  I love Phoebe too  Ava, Eva, Clara,  Clare,  Grace, Hazel, Ada, Cora, Pearl, Elsie, Josie, Rose, Tessa  would go well

 

I think Hugo and Theo go well

 

I think Henry goes well or Max, Oliver, Jake, Felix, Jack, Archie, Ned, Harry, Eli, Harvey, Hamish, Fergus, Angus, Rupert