Let the name war begin!

We got a positive pregnancy test last week!  Our first midwife appointment isn't until around what will probably be the 10 week mark, and my husband and I have already agreed not to even discuss names until the 20 week mark, so naturally that's all I'm thinking about.  Naming our boys got progressively harder with the second two.  Finn likes nothing.  I don't even think it's that he's shooting stuff down just to irk me at this point (and believe me, that accusation was made years back).  I think he's just utterly uninspired.  

IF we happen to have a girl, I actually think we'll be in safe shape.  We have half a dozen names that we both REALLY love plus another handful that we both like, so I think it will be more about narrowing it down than actually agreeing on something.  If Ike had been a girl he would've been Genevieve Estelle.  Genevieve is still on the list, along with Lorelai, Felicity, Leonora, and Adelaide; we also both love Elodie and Xiomara but I'm not 100% sure we're brave enough to go there.  However, I'm confident we can figure something out.  

If it's a boy (and we're currently batting a thousand in this department), he may not have a name until Kindgergarten.

Elias has been on my heart since my last pregnancy but Finn was absolutely against it.  He said it "just isn't his thing."  Okay.  I have to respect that.  The problem is, he never really suggests anything.  I would still use Elias.  I know it is similar to Isaias, but odds are they would go primarily by Ike and Eli anyway.  I'm not a fan of Elijah.  I'm going to fight for Elias again later because I really do love it, and it's been almost 4 years since we last had this battle, so he might go for it now or he might not.

One name I've been thinking about a lot lately is Dominic.  I think it fits with the other three well.  I'm just not sure I like the sound of Dominic Dillon.  Sometimes I think it's great and then in the same second I hate the alliteration.  I do think Finn would take a nibble at this name though. 

Other thoughts: I really like Augustus.   However, in my mind, Atticus and Augustus are just as similar, if not more, than Isaias and Elias. 

I've also been thinking about Abraham but I think it might be a little too familiar.  I really like Donovan and Sullivan.  Ezekiel is another name that I really like but I'm not sure I can sell Finn on.  There has to be SOMETHING out there that we both love!  Help!

 

Oldest sons' names: Atticus Luca, Malakai Solomon, Isaias Everett

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September 18, 2018 3:10 AM

Genevieve Estelle is lovely,  I like Lorelei, Lorelai, Felicity, Elodie too.

oh Elias is nice,  I think Atticus and Augustus is too close and I dont like the same initials

Dominic is nice.  I think Abraham is very brave and again the A thing.  Donovan and Sullivan are nice,  I love Ezekiel.  I probably do a non-Biblical name to match Atticus, and the middle 2 have Biblical.  I'd go with a 3 syllable name to match the others

Edison, Damian, Elliott, Emerson, Broderick, Christopher, Cameron, Julian, Jamison, Harrison, Sebastian, Theodore, Raphael, Romeo, Xavier, Caspian, Dmitry, Everest, Ferguson, Tennyson, Dennison, Barnaby, Castiel, Callaghan, Benedict, Lysander, Hamilton, Llewellyn, Garrison, Kennedy, Jupiter, Gulliver, Hadrian, Zoriah, Sylvester, Tadeo, Waverly, Ptolemy, Othello, Dorian, Esteban, Julius, Fabian, Lorenzo, Orlando, Tobias, Remington, Forrester

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September 18, 2018 7:12 PM

I really like Raphael.  It was actually the first name that popped up when I plugged them all into the Matchmaker.  And I'm not worried about what other adults think about whatever name we choose, but I guarantee the second I mention the name to either of my older two, and possibly even my youngest, the first thing they're gonna do is bring up Ninja Turtles.  *sigh*  The joys of boys.

 

But thank you!  I like a lot of these!  Barnaby is very cool.  I think you make a good point that I probably don't want to repeat a first letter.  I live in south Texas where a lot of Latin names are very common.  Lorenzo is a name I've loved forever but I feel like our surname may be to Anglo for that.  I can totally see us with a little Enzo running around though.  I'll mull these over.  They're great!

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September 20, 2018 4:11 PM

I think the TMNT association is definitey a consideration to be aware of (I'm going as Raphael this Halloween actually, ha, and will enjoy escorting my three younger turtles) but I also don't think it has to be a problem. My middle son has a prominent comic book character for their name and it does come up but it's never a negative thing. If anything it means that people have an extra bit of nostalgic enthusiasm wrapped up in the name. I'd only consider it an issue if you actively dislike the ninja turtles. 

 

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September 20, 2018 4:22 PM

Someone I've known since childhood named her son Raphael specifically after the TMNT character!

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September 21, 2018 4:44 PM

You know...it WOULD be pretty amazing to dress four little boys up as Ninja Turtles for Halloween next year with a baby Raphael dressed as Raphael...I don't know if that's a sufficient argument to convince the husband, however.  :)

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September 20, 2018 5:19 PM

I think Raphael goes well and I wouldnt worry about the Njnja Turtles

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September 18, 2018 3:54 AM

Congratulations!!!  I hope everything runs smoothly from here......

We do have quite a cross-over in taste.  Elodie is my daughter's middle name and she always gets complemented on it. Genevieve is a long time love of mine too.  I love all the names on your girls list!  

I'd struggle with a 4th boy too, I still have lots of boy names i love but it gets harder every time.  I do think Elias and Isaias are too close (for me anyway).  Augustus is a great choice although a little similar to Atticus in flow and ending.  Do you like just August (that breaks up the S endings) or Augustin?  Our son was almost August, although I decided Augustus suited him better and we ended up using it in the middle spot.

I like Dominic and I like the aliteration in this case.

Suggestions: Ambrose, Tobias, Emeric, Amos, Felix, Leo/Leonidas, Hugo, Idris

I'll have to put my thinking cap on!

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September 18, 2018 7:19 PM

I'm pretty sure you are the one who brought Ambrose into my head!  It is totally a name I would consider; I don't know about my husband.  Leonidas is fantastic too and I like Leo.  I do like Augustin.  And that does break up the S.  I think Gus is a possible nickname either way.  I'm trying to remember if it's ever come up in our name debate before.  I'll have to give Amos some serious thought too; I really like that as well.

Girls are so much easier for us!  One of my sisters has two girls and they're working on their third baby, and they are in a similar tough spot on boy names, but she likes to poke fun at me because for them it's never come to blows, whereas I'm always like, this is my LIFE.  Gahhhhh...I don't even think I'd know what to do with a girl at this point.  I've never put a bow on a baby in my life, lol.

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September 19, 2018 7:51 AM

We used Augustus as a middle but when I was considering August/Augustus/Augustin for a first I liked that you could use Gus or Auggie as a nickname (or something else more creative).

Girls are easier for me too, despite the fact that I still have a lot of names on my boys list that I love! I could name 10 boys (without my husband, he vetoes a lot of names) but in reality I still have a much easier time with girls.

I'm not sure I'll get a chance to use Ambrose so I'm plugging it for you too should you have another boy :)

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September 18, 2018 3:50 PM

Oooh, congratulations! It's always so exciting when a regular is expecting, and I am always excited to see other people undertake a fourth child because I really find four children to be an excellent number of children.

So I'm assuming that your actual real life name (not just your user name) is Austin? If so, I really like Augustus especially much because they're linguistically related. Austin is a contraction of Augustine which comes from Augustinus which is itself derived from Augustus. So, fun way to name after yourself without it being super duper obvious. Especially nice for a fourth and maybe caboose child to get the parent namesake honors, I think. 

I am sure you've already thought of this, but I think that Augustine might be a way to separate Augustus from Atticus a bit. However, if they largely go by Ace and Gus, I think that's not much of an issue. 

I like Dominic. Would you use Nico as a nickname? Nico Dillon works great both with siblings and with the full name. I admit that Dominic Dillon is more alliteration than is usually my taste, but I think it works well enough.

I don't think Abraham is very familiar: I don't actually know one, and Bram is another name that fits with your kids' kicky nicknames. 

I do love Ezekiel for you. Zeke is sci-fi fun in a way. 

Cash and Cassius?

I kind of want to reverse engineer this and find nicknames that fit: Cal (Calvin?), Van (Evander?), Ty (Tiberius?), Lou?

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September 18, 2018 7:38 PM

Thank you!  Yes, my first name is Austin, and I never even considered that Augustus/Augustin are related, but I kind of dig it!  The more I think of Augustin/Augustine, the more I really like it and I love Gus as a nickname.  I really like Cassius and that is a name I think I can see my husband going for.  I think I feel Abraham is familiar because it's the name of a very famous president; everyone knows who Abraham Lincoln was.  But maybe other people don't make that association?  Sometimes I feel like I overthink certain things.  

The only reason I agreed to a third was if Finn would agree to consider a fourth!   We didn't really determine at any time how many we wanted: I just knew I wanted an even number.  I'm a little nervous because everyone said the transition from 2-3 was tough but then adding more after that is a breeze.  However, for us it was pretty seemless.  Both Ace and Kai were fairly laid back as toddlers and still are; Ike is my nuclear reactor.  But he'll also be almost four and a half by the time this one arrives.  

Also, and I'm not sure if I've posted about this ever or not so forgive me if it's redundant:  I've noticed lately that Ace seems to introduce himself as Atticus, rather than by his nickname.  I'm completely okay with that, it's HIS name, but it does make me wonder if nicknames will even be a thing in a few years and if I don't need to consider them so much, but my family and I are just nicname people.  

And if you can reverse engineer me a name that can be a solid first name for Roy, I will be thrilled!  :)

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September 19, 2018 1:22 PM

For Roy, do you have any interest in Rowan? Etymologically it's actually from a nickname for Roy*, so there's a pleasing hidden symmetry in using Roy as a nickname for Rowan.

I actually think any of the Ro- names would work, which gives you a lot of options, from Robert to Romeo to Roosevelt. Royce would be an obvious option, though maybe that's too short. I could also see it working at a stretch for Ambrose. And now that I think about it, I think it could be a cool option for Horatio, a name I really like but that cries out for some kind of nickname (Horry just doesn't do it for me).

 

*Well, Behind the Name tells me that Roy is the anglicization of Ruadh, and Rowan is from the surname Ó Ruadháin, Ruadháin being a diminutive of Ruadh).

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September 20, 2018 4:20 PM

That's a nice idea! I also like Royce and I can add Royal to the list of long forms for Roy even though I don't think it necessarily in this situation... but I've liked it ever since reading Farmer Boy by Laura Ingalls Wilder, where Almanzo's brother is Royal.

I gather that Elroy and Leroy and Fitzroy (the illegitimate son of a king, heads up) don't appeal?

In the Ro- name option, I want to suggest Roland for your consideration. 

(We briefly had a cat who came from the shelter with the name Ray, and we reverse engineered the long name Horatio for him!) 

 

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September 21, 2018 4:47 PM

Horatio is awesome!  I'd actually totally consdier that for this baby!

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September 19, 2018 2:52 PM

Cassius is nice,  I'd keep with the 3 syllables and wouldnt use names starting with A, M, I

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September 18, 2018 5:54 PM

I also love your girls list; Elodie would be my favourite followed by Felicity, Leonora and Genevieve.

As far as the boys go while I wouldn't do it myself I think you could just about get away with Isaias and Elias if they were largely Ike and Eli. Have you considered Elian or Elio? Also while the ideal would obviously be for you both to love the name if he is genuinely uninspired and likes nothing then I think you should get your choice of a name you love and it will grow on him once it belongs to his son. 

I like Dominic and think Dominic Dillon is okay, I don't find the alliteration pleasing as I do with some names but I also don't find it jarring or unpleasant. And if you went with lucubratrix's suggestion of Nico as a nickname it would be even less of an issue. I actually have more of a problem with Donovan Dillon, in terms of the sound but also because Donovan seems like a surname to me and Dillon sounds like a first name so that could cause some confusion. (Sullivan has the same 'first and last names have been mixed up' feeling for me, although obviously it avoids the alliteration) 

My first thought was also that swapping Augustus to August takes away a lot of the similarity with Atticus, but I'm sure that's already occurred to you so I presume you don't like just August?

I think you should challenge Finn to come up with a list of 5 boy names that he likes (if it is a boy), even if you don't like any of them it will at least be an indication of his style, and if he can't manage to come up with any perhaps he will concede to pick from your shortlist. ;)

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September 18, 2018 8:21 PM

I actually really like August!  I had it in my head that I wanted a name that was 3-syllables like the others but now I'm not as sure that matters.  Also someone above suggested Augustin, which I also like a lot.  I also agree with you about Dominic Dillon.  Now that I've said it out loud and read someone else writing it, it feels...bouncy.  

When my husband was in college, he adopted a Bassett hound mix puppy from a local shelter.  The dog's name is Lump.  Not even kidding.  My husband is a great guy and an wonderful dad but he just really sucks at this, lol.  

However.  I'm down with trying to challenge him to come up with something this time.  I told him I might just find out the sex so that way I know if it's not a battle we even need to fight.  He didn't think that was funny.  I was only half kidding.  

He HAS mentioned involving the boys in the process this time, an idea I love as long as we set some parameters, because I refuse to pull any names from Paw Patrol.

Ultimately I know that loving the name isn't anywhere near as important as loving the baby, and we both already do.  I just wish this wasn't so hard!  

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September 19, 2018 2:42 PM

Augustin is great in that it's super unusual but also easy for anyone to say or spell, gives you multiple nickname options (Gus, Auggie and even August itself) and gives your son the choice of using one of those nicknames if he ever has times he wants his name to blend in a little more. 

Haha poor Lump! Names are clearly not your husbands forte!

I love the idea of getting the older kids involved in the name choice, I always think that's cute. I think the best way to do it is either you and Finn get to a list of say 4 names and then they get to narrow it down to 2 for you to make the final call on after baby arrives (or let them pick the 1 name at that point if you're cool with that and they can agree!) or if you want to be able to give them more freedom then just let them loose on the middle name ;) (of course with the caveat that you get to nix anything super crazy like Darth Vader). 

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September 21, 2018 4:53 PM

I really like your suggested method!  Will definitely throw that out to Finn!  Ace and Kai were really too young when we were choosing a name for Ike but now Ace will be nearly 9, Kai will be 6.5, and Ike will be 4.  Last time the primary kid consideration was, would they be able to say it?  And now it's, will they choose an actual name?  Because let me tell ya, I'm sure if it was up to them, Darth Vader would totally be in the running.  

The more I think about Augustin, the more I love it.  I just don't know if I want another A name or if it matters.  Baby naming is no joke.  So many tiny details that can make a huge difference!

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September 18, 2018 6:33 PM

Another one here who loves your girl list - I really love Lorelei in your sibset, but any of them would be lovely (although Xiomara is a bit out there for my taste, she could be Mara for short, which is sweet).

 

If Finn can agree on any of them, I think your boy choices are solid too. I actually like Dominic Dillon and find it quite fun to say. I agree that Isaias and Elias isn't a problem if you use nns most of the time. Alternatively, if you like Eli, it could stand on its own, but since your other boys have a longer name + nn, it might be odd to just use Eli.

 

Abraham is a good choice too. It's familiar to me from the Biblical Abraham, but I don't think I've ever met one. Ezekiel is more common but also a good choice.

 

Donovan and Sullivan feel a bit different to your boys' names, and also not perfect with your surname. But there's nothing objectively wrong with them, and both give you the nn option of Van (or Dono, or Sully ...)

 

Some other suggestions (maybe you've considered these already): Theodore (Theo), Everett (Rett), Vincent (Vin or Vince), Oliver (Ollie), Sebastian (Seb or Bas), Benedict (Ben or Ned)

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September 18, 2018 9:01 PM

I would never have thought of Ned as a nickname for Benedict, but I kind of like it.  I'll definitely have to play with that one.  I feel like that's a name that Finn is more likely to go with; I already know he doesn't like Elias, so I'm not holding out much hope for it but that's the one I like most.  ;) I think in my head I've already nixed Donovan for reasons similar to what you've given.  I really like the idea of Sully as a nickname though.  We know a family with a boy named Sully, just Sully, but that feels like it might be a tough name for a grown man.  

The more I say Dominic out loud and play with it, the more I like it.  That's another example of a name I think Finn will be more likely to go for.  But I also think he'd think Abraham is neat.  I'm not sure if he'd like it enough to name a child that---I never know with him!  We had Ace's name picked out long before conception even and it was SO easy.  With Kai we hadn't picked anything concrete but we at least had a couple of choices.  We were down to Malakai, Solomon, and Asher.  We both felt that Asher felt more like a middle name ultimately, and Solomon ended up being impossible for 2-year-old Ace to pronounce it, but he spit out Kai like he'd always been saying it.  And it sounded so cute coming out of his little mouth that it just seemed like the exact right fit.  Then when we had Ike, we couldn't agree on a single thing.  Finn was absolutely opposed to Elias but Isaias he finally agreed on IF I would let him call the baby Ike.  By then I would've let him call the baby Seaweed if it would just get him to agree to something.  And I do like the name Isaias, so it's not like I got jilted or anything.  I just feel like it keeps getting harder and harder.

Girl names have ALWAYS just come easily.  I mean we've rotated around the same 5-6 this entire time.  

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September 19, 2018 2:34 AM

Okay, a few more name suggestions that spin-off from ones you've said you like, but can't use for one reason or another: Silas, Elio, Lazlo, Lazarus, Cyrus, Solomon, Archer.

 

 

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September 21, 2018 4:55 PM

Oooh I forgot about Silas!  Lazarus is awesome too!

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September 20, 2018 12:11 PM

Lump! That is so awesome. Thanks for the laugh. My brother had a cat named DB, short for Dirty Bastard. I rather like Lump better.

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September 21, 2018 12:13 PM

I know a cat named Sh*théad, pronounced "sha-TAYD"

For the record, Lump is an awesome cat name.  I am reminded of one of my daughter's most epic WHY questions: "Mommy, why cats not have to-do lists?"

 

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September 21, 2018 1:02 PM

Lump is a perfect cat name, and I could see it being equally great on a bassett hound. Is she named after the Presidents of the United States of America song from my early teens (in the mid-90s), the one with the refrain, "She's lump, she's lump, she's in my head"?

Some of the lines about "Lump spen[ding] her twenties between the sheets" (like some cats and probably also dogs like literally to do) and "linger[ing] last in line for brains, and the one she got was sort of rotten and insane, small thing's so sad that birds could land, is lump fast asleep or rocking out with the band" made me always imagine the song was about a cat, anyway. Plus the same album features an equally famous song "Kitty" that is unambigously about an actual cat (who is going to spend the night outside). I don't know if these songs get as much airplay elsewhere as they do here (I'm local, in fact, the lead singer lives on my island and his kid band often gives benefit concerts for the schools), or maybe everyone else in the country/world just remembers "Peaches" (which was *also* on that album, it was seriously great).

But this is totally my feline bias. Everything that made me think cat about the Lump song would make equally much sense on a dog. Brilliant naming. I don't think your husband sucks at this even a little bit.

(Parents of small kids who want to listen to these songs nostalgically now but are concerned about the occasional f-bombs cluttering up the otherwise kid-friendly topics please also consider checking out Caspar Babypants. Googly Eyes is the worst-best earworm. (You can put googly eyes on your cat named Lump who gets on your foot and you want to touch it.))

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September 21, 2018 5:01 PM

So the thing about Lump is that NOW, he's an old guy.  Finn and I have been together almost 12 years and Lump was past the puppy phase by the time we got together, so we estimate him to be nearly 14.  These days his name totally suits him!  He's luckily in pretty good shape aside from just being old, and he's a lounger for sure.  But he's super with the kids.  I have a thing about not leaving kids and pets unattended because if the baby pulls on the dog and the dog is hurt, you can hardly blame the dog if it gets upset.  But all three of my boys grew up using him to learn how to be gentle and respectful, and he's never once so much as raised an eyebrow.  He's a good guy.  

However, I named the next dog, and the cats.  ;)

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September 24, 2018 10:27 AM

Boy names 

Jeffrey 

Aston 

Xavier

Kieran 

Kellan

Beau

Girl names 

Marlena 

Natalia

Tila 

Ashley

Brittanya

Reagan 

Bailey 

Brittney

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September 28, 2018 10:42 PM

Xavier is another name I keep coming back to.  I really like it.

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September 30, 2018 1:46 AM

Xavier is a great name. I think that it's a name that retains its panache and wow-factor in spite of being used not-infrequently-actually, in part because of the cool initial and the comic book associations, plus the fact that it's a name that lacks soundalikes unlike many of the other names that rank comparably high. 

Given the sibling group I think that I'd want to think about nicknames that could work. My kids go to school with a Xavier, he's sometimes called Xave, like Dave with an Z, but it's more of a pet name than a nickname that other people use.