Naming Dilemma - His last name or mine

Unmarried and need help deciding...

I have always loved the name Lauren and I want to stick with it but HIS last name is St. Lawrence.

Is Lauren St. Lawrence too much?

With my last name:  Lauren Hartman

Another option: Beth St. Lawrence




February 20, 2018 7:36 PM

Lauren St. Lawrence doesn't work at all.  Lauren Hartman is fine though, as is Beth St. Lawrence.

February 20, 2018 8:03 PM

It takes a certain kind of person to carry off a name like Lauren St. Lawrence, but I don't think that's a terrible thing. It's definitely a striking combination; your daughter would never have any trouble with getting people to remember her name.

Regarding Beth, I'm one of those who prefers giving children the flexibility of the full name on the birth certificate, but Elizabeth in particular has so many nicknames that that could be dangerous - you might only call her Beth, but what if she decides at age 13 that she wants to be Libby instead, and you happen to hate pumpkin pie?

February 20, 2018 8:05 PM

And you happen to hate pumpkin pie. :D :D


I'm definitely with you on Elizabeth over Beth!

February 21, 2018 4:17 PM

I don't particularly feel like you need to have a "full" name on the birth certificate but you could always have Bethany as a longer form of Beth-that doesn't really lend itself to multiple other nicknames. 

February 20, 2018 8:18 PM

In my opinion, yes- Lauren St. Lawrence is way too much. I would be angry if my parents named me this, knowing there are tons of other names out there that would sound WAY better... I would strongly consider using it at all if you feel that you may end up marrying your significant other, as that could be a difficult situation where your daughter is the only one with a different last name. I think you just have to scrap it unless you 100% know that you and your daughter will remain as Hartmans.

Beth is fine, but I agree with the above posters- I would consider a longer name to put on the birth certificate, such as Elizabeth or Bethany.

February 20, 2018 9:37 PM

 It is a lot of name but where I live I can give my children any last name so maybe a new mashup would appeal.  Like Lawman or St. Hartman 

February 20, 2018 10:14 PM

As someone who knows people with some pretty punny names, I don't think you have anything to worry about. It makes the person likeable and relatable instantly, even on paper. 

The baby's last name is a super personal decision and should be the name you feel like will be significant to the baby. Whichever name you pick will be just fine!

February 21, 2018 1:00 AM

If your name is Hartman, and you will be the custodial parent, I would definitely go with Lauren Hartman. If you and your baby's father do get married, he can adopt the family name, or you can be a two-surname family. This will save on bureaucratic hassles and allow you to use the name you love.

I would also consider it a bonus that your daughter's name will so closely resemble her father's bachelor name—it's a cool twist on the tradition of giving a son his mother's maiden name as a given or middle name. (Framing it in those terms—"she does have his name, just feminized and moved front and center"—might be politic with his side of the family.)

February 21, 2018 2:22 AM

I was going to say all of this, but then you said it better! 

I think even if you're both planning on shared custody, I'd still preference Hartman as the surname given that Lauren as a first name is such a nice compromise, because you're passing on his family surname, too, just as the first name. 

I have had (adult) students with jokey sorts of names who hated them, and having a first name that repeats the better part of the surname does not pass the "would I want it to be my name" test, either. 

February 21, 2018 3:03 AM

I do think that Lauren works as being a great compromise and is very cool that she would get a little bit of both parents.

Also, as a feminist, I like the mother's last name being used.

But I have to say Lauren St. Lawrence is kinda cool. 

It is pretty straightforward in spelling and also memorable. I don't think anyone would forget it and probably love to say it over and over.

Cool and beneficial...I sorta like it.

February 21, 2018 3:04 AM

yes Lauren St Lawrence is too much


Lauren Hartman is lovely  or Bethany St. Lawrence,  maybe you could use St.Lawrence-Hartman or Hartman-St. Lawrence as a last name.  Will you change your name too  - otherwise I'd just use your surname

February 21, 2018 6:48 AM

I'm torn between the wish to urge a mother to use her own surname, and a strong liking for the surname St. Lawrence.

I even kind of like Lauren St. Lawrence, but I've known a surprising number of Marta Martinezes and even a Martina Martinez, and there's no doubt it will be commented upon. You could always go for Lauren Hartman for this baby and some kind of inversion (Hart St. Lawrence?!) for a future sibling.

That said, Bethany St. Lawrence is also a great name.

February 21, 2018 12:37 PM

The thing about Lauren St. Lawrence is that it's not just "similar" or a "punny name" as someone said above, Lauren is a English version of the French Laurence, and so is Lawrence. They are basically the same name with a very slight difference in spelling and an even slighter difference in sound, and it really, really, doesn't work.

The other option of using your surname is definitely a thing you can do, but if you end up using St. Lawrence, Beth is really the way to go, reguardless of if you use it as a nickname or not. (Out of other people's suggestions I think Elizabeth St. Lawrence sounds really nice.)

By EVie
February 21, 2018 3:44 PM

Clearly, based on the comments, it's going to be controversial. Do you want your daughter to have a controversial name that inspires debate and strong feeling on either side, or would you rather have something more generally pleasing/innocuous? (That's a sincere question with no wrong answer, it's totally up to you). 

The thing that bugs me the most about it is the spelling difference between Lauren and Lawrence. I think that's going to lead to the kind of confusion that will get frustrating and tedious really fast, as it opens the door and hangs out a welcome sign for misspellings of Lawrence/Laurence. 

I agree with Emily that I like the idea of giving her your surname, from a feminist perspective, but the name nerd side of me thinks that the surname St. Lawrence is AWESOME and I would totally jump on that. I'm not wild about Beth as a stand-alone, but there are SO MANY other names out there that would be absolutely gorgeous in combination with St. Lawrence, including others with the same sleek sound as Lauren. (Is it weird that I think of Lauren as almost mid-century modern in style, given that it rose to prominence in the 70s and 80s rather than the 50s/60s when MCM was actually in vogue? Something about the clean lines of the name remind me strongly of that interior design aesthetic). 

February 21, 2018 4:30 PM

For me Lauren St Lawrence is too much, although I will concede that it is fun to say which is probably why opinion is so divided (I doubt there would be half as much debate if you were asking about Lauren Lawrence, it's all about that St in there). 

I see nothing wrong with giving her your surname if Lauren is the name you really love (and as others have said she still would have that tie to her father's last name through her first). I do also like Beth St Lawrence, but feel like it's more important to have the first name you love.