Naming Fifth Girl, Need some idea please.

Hey everyone!

We found out we are having our fifth girl.  I used Nymbler already but I didn't have any luck there.  We have some ideas, but I wanted to see what your could all come up with without me chiming in yet. ;)

Here are our other girl's names.  (I am replacing the E's with the number 3 so it can't be searched)







July 20, 2015 12:58 AM

My first thoughts are Aurelia, Olivia, Isabella, and Lydia.

For something just a bit different, Rosalind or Rosalyn, Emmabeth, Juliette, Cecilia or CecilyAdelaide, or Vera. 

July 20, 2015 2:49 AM

Without any backround information, I would definitey say you have no particular naming 'style' that is usually found in sibsets. They are all however very flowing, feminine names which I believe are called 'raindrop' names. This can be an advantage though, as you dont have to stick to the same 'style' as previous names giving you more options.

The most prominent difference between all your names is their popularity. As Ava is currently at No.5 while Eliora has never appeared in the top 1000. What's your opinion on popularity?

My ideas are













July 20, 2015 4:28 PM

The names I like on your list but doens't quite hit the mark.

-Maeve and Greta

I don't like popular names, but I do like them to be a little familiar.

By Fly
July 20, 2015 10:36 AM

They look like names with prominent vowel sounds that were not popular but may have been rising at the time that you named each of them.  I'm not an SSA name list expert (I'm in Australia so it's kind of irrelevant here) but someone who does analyse the trends might use that to find some ideas for you.

July 20, 2015 4:30 PM

I think you may be right about that.  :)

July 20, 2015 11:15 AM

These are all lovely names. Is one a front runner? 

I personally slightly prefer Sabrina to S3r3na. 

Elodie pops to mind as a possible alternate to 3liora. 

As a pp noted Av@ is quite popular, as are various Ellie names, so that might be something to consider-or not. I would say you definitely have a style. These are all feminine, vowel heavy names. I think Laura would call them, "Liquid"

You might find this post of hers helpful for inspiration, as well as this one on the shorter versions she calls, "Raindrop," names a la Ava

Other suggestions: Eloise, Amalie, Lucia, Melanie, Helena, Carolyn, Evelyn, Marina, Gabrielle

Let us know if we are getting close. 

July 20, 2015 11:41 AM

Hi. Thanks for the responses.

I am a long time reader of Laura's, so I think with that I could say my tastes are Exotic Traditional.  I don't like popular names.  Ava was named in the early 2000's so it wasn't too popular then. I was a new mom so I was unaware.  The list of names I put before are the names of my daugther's names.


I do like feminine, fluid names.  I don't want them all sounding the same though. As Laura as posted about before. The more children you have, the smaller the circle seems to get.  

July 20, 2015 12:40 PM

I really, truly apologize. 

I had thought your name list was a list of candidates, even though you had plainly said they were your other girls' names. 

So sorry-I should not use the interweb until I've had enough coffee! 

Av@ is a lovely name. It would have been our older son's name if he had been a girl. He was born in 2003 and ended up with a popular name anyway! Popularity doesn't bother me, but I know it's an issue for a lot of posters. 

Apologies again if my previous post was inadvertently unkind. Obviously, it wasn't particularly helpful. 

I do think you might like some of the choices on the liquid names list. I would say that many of them are exotic traditional. 


July 20, 2015 2:46 PM

JnHsmom-  No worries. I was not offended at all. We all have our own naming styles.  Plus, I can see how it is easy to see my list and get the wrong idea.  Don't feel bad! :)  Don't you wish there was an edit button on these posts? I sure do!

July 20, 2015 2:06 PM

Wow, five girls! That has to be tough in terms of naming. Some ideas: Marina, Sofia, Zoe, Daniela, Natalia, Emilia, Gabriella, Mariana, Dalia, Melina, Olivia, Adrianna, Astrid, Mia, Liliana, Mariah, Viviana, Tatiana, Juliana, Anastasia, Talia, Camilla.

More information is always helpful. How did you choose your other daughters' names? What other names did you consider? Are there any naming deal-breakers you have or your partner has? What about the suggestions provided by the other commenters and myself do you or don't you like?

July 20, 2015 4:34 PM

It IS tough. Mainly because there are so many I like but not sure which one is the one.  Know what I mean?


Names I like but can't use: : Liliana, ( I think it is too close to Anneliese), Allegra, Isabella, and Emily.

The ones I like that you mentioned. Marina and Melina.

I also like the names Amira, Amaris, Genevieve, and Reina.  I would like to try and stay away from an A name. I was hoping for a name that begins with the letter I, but I can't seem to find one that I like.

So here I am. LOL We are half way to the due date so there is time, but for some reason I would like to have two names that we have decided on and be ready. 

July 20, 2015 5:48 PM

Hm.  I-names that might fit with your other daughters:




Iliyana (might have the "too close" problem of Liliana)




July 20, 2015 5:56 PM

Are you looking for letter "L" or letter "I"? (It's hard to tell with this font)

If it's L, how about Larissa, Leonie, Lilia, Linnea, Lorelei, Lyla, or Lyra?

If it's I, how about Ida, Irena, or Isla? 

July 20, 2015 6:03 PM

Oh yes, I can see how that would be hard. I meant the letter I as in Island. 

I really like Irena, but I think because it is similiar to Serena.  Isla reminds me of the word Island.

July 20, 2015 6:29 PM

I didn't even put Irena together with Serena (i'm way off my game today)... Is being reminded of an Island a bad thing? I think the name fits right in with the other girls. You could go with Islene, a homonym to Eileen, and probably just far enough from Serena.

"I" is a tricky letter, there are some certainly unique names (just stumbled on Icelyn and Igraine, which both fascinate me). Here are some other names stretching across the board:

Isley or Ily (an acronym for I Love You -- that's comletely a matter of taste)


Iris or Irisa

Would you be open to varients of Isabella? For example, Isabetta, Isaline or Isadora? 

July 20, 2015 6:31 PM

I really like Isadora. However , there is a niece with the name Isabella. Too close for me.  I like Ida in theory but I don't think I could go through with it though.

You are right that the letter "I" is a tricky letter. There isn't too many options out there. Islene is interesting...I may have to ponder that one.

July 20, 2015 7:53 PM

Other random I names: Ilene (I grew up with someone who used that spelling), Ilona/Ilonka. Ilse/Ilsa, Imelda, Ivana, Imogen, Ina, Inez, India, Indigo, Inge/Inga, Ingrid, Iphigenia, Irma, Iseult/Isolde, Ivette, Ivonne.  These names are literally all over the map, but maybe something will strike you.

July 21, 2015 12:06 AM

Alright, I names that don't end with an A- Ivy, Ingrid, Imogen, Iris, Indie, Isolde (like Tristan and Isolde/Iseult/Yseult because references to medieval European literature are always fun), Ivory. I names that do end in A- Iliana, Ilana, Ilsa, Ioana, Ira (hasn't really been used as a girls name since the 1930s, but still), Ivanna.

A few more ideas: Miranda, Bianca, Camille, Carolyn, Kiara, Mariela, Karina, Catalina, Simone, Sylvia (or Sylvie if you don't want the -a ending), Tess, Marisol, Claudia, Natalie, Naomi, Carla, Sybil/Sibyl.

July 20, 2015 5:04 PM

I've not read the entire thread, so sorry about any repeats.

Marina, Lucia, Phoebe, Fiona, Simone, Gemma, Felicity, Arabella, Cecily, Linnea, Aurora

July 20, 2015 6:33 PM

I should add that I am trying to also find a name that's not too close or similar to my other girl names. It's hard enough to get there names straight. LOL  One that doesn't end in an A, and doesn't have the letter R near the end would be great. However, the tricky part is those ar ethe kind of names I am attractive too.  Very tricky indeed.

July 20, 2015 9:53 PM

A few ideas you may not have considered yet:







Marcella (yes, ends in -a, but also connects with Ann3li3s3 via the "-3l" syllable; connects with 3liora, too)

Briony (thinking it's not your style, but throwing it out there anyway)

July 20, 2015 9:16 PM

For something different in sound that still fits in with your girls, I particularly like Genevieve and Ivette (can also be spelled Yvette), already mentioned in this thread.

A couple of additional suggestions: Sibella, Celeste.

July 20, 2015 9:38 PM

Genevieve is a name that keeps popping up.  I keep seeing it everywhere. Not on babies or children, but in print.  I like saying it too.  I am concerned about the Gen part being so close to the name Jennifer.  I don't want her called Gen.  Also, I noticed it is rising in numbers steadily in teh last 10 years.  I am worried it is going to get very popular in the next few years.

Feel free to calm my concerns. :)  

July 20, 2015 10:19 PM

I really love Genevieve for you.

I know of one. She has a sister called Audrey, and I've never heard her called Gen.

A lot of kids go by their whole names these days. I'm a pretty compulsive nick namer, and I don't think I'd go to Jen/Gen with this one. 

It does come up on here fairly often, but I think a lot of people get scared off by the spelling (this is totally a guess-I have no stats to back this up). Also, this site tilts more classic/traditional than most.

July 20, 2015 11:25 PM

Thanks for the encouragment for Genevieve. It's good to know that it's not an automative nick name for it.

Do you think it brings the name Jennifer to mind and so it makes it to over used just with that association?

July 21, 2015 12:45 AM

I had a look at the popularity of Genevieve, and while it  has had a slight increase in use over the last few years, I don't think it's anything to be concerned about. It's not exactly top 100.

I agree with JnHsmom, I also would not automatically nickname to gen (or associate the name with Jennifer). Vivie, neve or even Ginny make cuter nicknames if you are looking for alternates- but I think you will find if you and your family use the full name, others will follow suit.  The only Genevieve I have known went by her full name.

By Fly
July 21, 2015 1:15 AM

Genevieve would probably be more likely to get Vivi or Viva as a nickname at the moment.  I think nicknames are timestamped in a way that their long form counterparts may not be - Gen/Jen makes most people think of Jennifer and the 70s/80s name trend for that name.  Vivi is a very *now* nickname.  Although the trend of *now* seems to be either to not to use nicknames at all (predominantly a USA trend), or to put the diminuitive form on the birth certificate (predominantly a UK trend).

For some reason, Genevieve always reminds me of Guinevere... which is a much prettier name in my opinion, though I see the appeal of both. Guinevere also has nickname options of Guin, Neve and Vera.  Gwen (Guin), Niamh (Neve) and Vera are stand alone names with long independent histories. Niamh (Neve) and Vera also have completely separate etymologies (Irish and Russian respectively), but both could also be derived as nicknames of Guinevere.  I'd probably pronounce Guin as 'GWIN' though, rather than 'GWEN'.

July 21, 2015 3:02 AM

I find Guinevere pretty but I also find it an awful lot for a little girl to live up to. My dad used to have a colleague called Aphrodite and I just can't imagine having a name like that. I find Genevieve more wearable.

My hands-down first nickname choice for Genevieve would be Evie. Was trying to convince my partner we should go that route, but no luck.

By Fly
July 21, 2015 4:12 AM

I guess because of King Arthur's queen? To me its just a charming, old but familiar and beautiful name, and much nicer than Jennifer (which is derived from Guinevere).  I don't think it would be any more to live up to than naming a child after a Shakesperean character or someone from the Bible... Whereas Aphrodite is probably a little bit heavy. But then I did know someone called Adonis in highschool (he went by 'Don'), and it was never particularly interesting for the rest of us (though I did know the origin of the name before I met him, so I did wonder about what his parents might've been like).

July 22, 2015 4:03 AM

I agree that Guinevere is much nicer than Jennifer!

I think I have problems with names that are immediately associated with great beauties... people celebrated for being beautiful but not much else. It seems a lot for a little girl to carry in her name -- and most of us aren't great beauties. Of course if she does turn out to be stunning the name will make her even more so!

July 22, 2015 10:48 AM

Uh, Guinevere is known for her adultery even more than for her beauty.  One of my fellow (medievalist) grad students named her daughter Guinevere, but it's not what I would choose.

By Fly
July 23, 2015 12:50 AM

Queen Guinevere doesn't play much into my association of the name, but when I do think of her I immediately think of Lancelot.

July 23, 2015 11:29 AM

If you don't associate Guinevere with King Arthur's wife/Lancelot's lover, what are your associations with the name?  I can't think of any other.  Since I taught Arthurian literature for donkey's years, for me Queen Guinevere IS Guinevere, and there are no others.

By Fly
July 23, 2015 9:57 PM

If I'm looking for associations then yes, it's Queen Guinevere. But aside from the TV show Merlin (which is not really that similar to Monmouth as far as I'm aware) it's really not very strong. And I only watched the first couple of seasons so Gwen at the start of the TV show isn't a bad association, though Monmouth's version never had her as the daughter of a blacksmith. Also she's mostly called Gwen, so that tends to disassociate her from the full name.

I think of it primarily as a name... similar in look to Genevieve and in origins to the once popular Jennifer, as well as having something in common with the Gwen names, though I think it's vastly prettier than the other choices. It's the same with many other names - unless the association is either general knowledge or personal experience, it's not likely to be very strong.

July 24, 2015 12:50 AM

Hmm, I think the cultural associations in Australia must be different than in the US. I would have said that the Arthurian legends and Guinevere's role in them were absolutely common knowledge. There are the legends and literary versions, of course, but also countless retellings: movies, miniseries, children's books, fantasy novels, etc. Even Mark Twain had a whack at the story.

Guinevere has also been a favorite target for reinterpretation--was she really just a weak adulteress, or was she a feminist icon/maligned sorceress/misunderstood pagan priestess etc.?

Overall, I agree that for me, this is a name with a LOT of baggage. It's maybe worse because there aren't any other famous Guineveres, and there aren't any other very similar names. It is lovely, though, with a very on-trend sound for now, so maybe it will start to shift.

By Fly
July 24, 2015 9:10 AM

Oh I know the story, I think most educated people do in one form or another... Though it's not nearly so well known as To Kill A Mockingbird or Romeo and Juliet. But people also use a variety of names, biblical, literary and otherwise, which have just as much baggage... So I don't think it's a particular turn off (not for me at least).

July 24, 2015 11:07 AM

I think when considering a name that has "baggage" it's best to know what the baggage is beforehand.  Then one can decide whether that baggage is or isn't a dealbreaker.  I wouldn't want to pick, say, Lucretia because Lulu is such a cute nickname and then find out a couple of years later about Ms. Borgia.  That's something I would want to know ahead of time.  It might not bother me, but I'd want to know.

By Fly
July 24, 2015 9:06 PM

That's a fair call.

July 20, 2015 10:29 PM

I cannot think of any I names except Iris.  I am impressed with others' long lists! I am trying to work off your parameters of no "a" endings and "r" at the end. Oops! Maybe that would take Iris out.




Laurel (sorry - has the R but still pretty)



Any of these  appeal to you?


July 20, 2015 11:24 PM

Jillmom- Thanks. I know the parameters are hard. Many of the names I like myself aren't in the parameters. Like the name Amirah.


All the names you listed are nice. Liesel is the one I like the most, but probably because it can be a derivative of the name Anneliese.  I like Laurel a lot too, but I still think it's too close to 3liora. They both have the L and R. :)

July 21, 2015 5:45 AM

I did not even catch the similarities of Liesel and Anneliese.  Anneliese is one of my favorite names BTW!  Just lovely.  In reviewing previous posts, I saw that you liked Greta.  Alas, ends in an "a".  How about Gretel?  

Just using Anneliese as inspiration, to me it is Scandanavian/German inspired.  I wonder if looking at the names of those countries would be useful?  

I noticed too that you sort of like Marina but it didn't quite hit the mark.  How about looking for other M names in the "Mary" family?  





Or, How about Vivian/Vivienne? No L,R, or A ending! Maybe Vivienne is better because it doesn't have the "an" of Anneliese.  

Is your name Faith?  Any interest in other virtue names?  Hope, Joy, Grace, Mercy

July 21, 2015 10:38 AM

Hi. My name is not Faith but I do like it.  We have already used Joy in our houshold.  Mercy is taken outside the house too. Vivienne is one of those names I like but not for my duaghter. I am not sure but I think it has a negative connotation for me.  I like Marit.  Actually, I really like it. I may run it by the hubby later. Thanks!

July 21, 2015 3:03 AM

For i names I like Isette (another variant of Isolde) and Iselle, along with Iris.

Of the suggestions you've had I think Marina is really stunning, and different enough from your other children.

July 21, 2015 10:40 AM

Oh...I like Isette at first but then realized I want to stay away from "Is" combinations.  

I have been thinking about Marina.  I really, really like it. In fact I was about to add it to our list when it hit me. The REASON I like it is because it rhymes with Ser3ena.  (Face to palm)

July 21, 2015 8:36 PM

Thank you everyone! I think we have a short list ready.  I appreciate all of you help. :)

By thegang3452 (not verified)
July 22, 2015 11:32 AM

Annaliese is deffinitly a beutiful name. Can you please tell me the names of your other children? That'll help. Thanks.

July 22, 2015 11:35 AM

They're listed at the end of the first post (in 1337-speak for privacy reasons).

July 23, 2015 1:36 PM

What about Laila? It has the same flowey feeling of your other names, and it's always been a favorite of mine. Or Violet? Or Penelope?

July 25, 2015 3:11 PM

Isobel or Isobella would be cute and then you could go by Izzie for short.