Need middle names! Aurelie Scholze, Gabriel Scholze

I like rare names that evoke a sense of wonder and magic. The name I give will reflect my love of fairytales.

Names I tend towards are English, Celtic, German, French.

The last name will be Scholze (Pronounced: Sholtz)

Right now I'm loving:
Aurelie (O-ray-lee) Rolled R - french accent
Gabriel (Jib-ray-el) Soft J and rolled R - arabic accent

Can you suggest middle names for Aurelie Scholze, and Gabriel Scholze?

So far I'm thinking something like Aurelie Laira/Laila Scholze and Gabriel Caiden Scholze. But I'm not crazy about the middle names.


July 13, 2013 9:01 AM

Fairy tales are fun, and should provide much inspiration for middle names. Have you leafed through a few for mn ideas? Perhaps something like  Aurelie Briar, or Gabriel Anders?

Or you could pick a symbol from the stories - eg Rose or Thorn. My son's book of fairy tales is a bit lacking in names (all the princesses are referred to only as Princess), but I'm sure a better book would be more help! 

One last thing - there have been a number of posts on here about parents struggling to enforce the accent/pronounciation of their children's names. It might pay to think carefully about the area in which you live and your friends and family members abilities to pronounce names differently. You may have to decide whether correcting people is something you don't mind, or if it will become a burden. 

July 14, 2013 10:33 PM

Aurelie Briar is a pretty combination. 

July 13, 2013 4:15 PM

If you are in the U.S. (or probably any English speaking country) I don't think you're going to get the rolled R's and soft J you are looking for.  Some pronunciation issues can be overcome, but some sounds just aren't going to happen for most native English speakers.  I think the rolled R is one that is especially problematic.  The soft J will be easier because that sound does appear in English.  However, I'd be very surprised if you consistently got people to use that sound for Gabriel when people are so used to the hard G in that spot.  Unless you or your partner are non-native speakers with appropriate accents, insisting on that soft J is likely to be viewed as eccentic, if not downright pretentious.

All that said, I think Aurelie (O-ray-lee) No rolled R-English accent and

Gabriel (Gab-ree-el) no rolled R, maybe a soft J, English accent are both lovely names.

I like Aurelie Laila better than Laira, to much R with Laira perhaps?  Some other ideas:  Aurelie Mila, Aurelie Vivienne, Aurelie Simone.  Since you like the idea of romantic/fairy tale/magical sounding names, have you considered a nature inspired name for the middle?  Aurelie Juniper, Aurelie Briar, Aurelie Winter, Aurelie Sky, Aurelie Pearl.

Not crazy about Gabriel Caiden.  With an English accent, the names seem a little off style-wise, but workable. Gabriel being more classic & Caiden more modern.  If I try with the accent you prefer, the style differences are even more noticable and it seems like a very odd combination.  Gabriel Thomas, Gabriel Alistair, Gabriel Owen, Gabriel Ian.  Or for more of that romantic/fairy tale/magical feel, Gabriel Orion, Gabriel Sage, Gabriel Arthur, Gabriel Rowan, Gabriel Finn.


July 13, 2013 7:51 PM

Would the form Gavriel give that fairy-tale/magical/mystical feel?  That's the original form of the name, so nothing made up, and is easily pronounced by English speakers.

BTW Thomas reminds me of True Thomas the Rhymer of Erceldoune who rode with the Queen of Elfland to Fairyland.  When he returned after a sojourn of several (usually seven) years, he had the gift of prophecy.  That's about as romantic a magical fairy tale as one can find.  In fact Thomas of Erceldoune was a real person who lived in 13th century Scotland about whom this fairy lore coalesced.  The story of Thomas of Erceldoune is also apparently the source of the ballad of Tam Lin, another story of Elfland and fairy lovers.  So there's the name Tam Lin (which also appears as Tomlin/Tamlane, etc.).

July 14, 2013 5:26 AM

I agree with NotAGuestAnymore - I'm Welsh/English and I live in the UK.

O-ray-lee - in the english langugue is pronounced A(u)-re-lie. If you like the O-ray-lee saying can I suggest Oralia (Oh-RYE-lye) or Aurelia (Oh-Ree-lee-A) - Aurelia Sky is pretty or Oralia Juniper.

Jib-re-el - in the english language is said GAY-bree-el. - I love the Gabriel Thomas or Gabriel Finn. 

July 13, 2013 11:33 PM

They are both lovely names, but you have to still like them even with a standard American accent, accepting that this is the only way people will ever call them. If the accent you were looking for was in your own ethnic community, you might have a chance to get it right in that setting - but I don't see that in this case.

The best you can do is try to match the spelling to your preferred pronunciation. For Aurelie there's not really a spelling that can get a french sound, so she would just be something like "Oralee"

For Gabriel, try Jibreel. Otherwise his name will be the standard American sound.

By hyz
July 15, 2013 12:24 PM

I have the sense that the OP may be in Quebec or thereabouts, in which case (if true) she should be able to get the French pronunciation for Aurelie she wants.  I don't personally know any place that Gabriel--or any form of it--is pronounced the way she wants, although there is the Arabic version of Jibril or Jabril.  Jibreel is a good suggestion (and maybe with a diaresis over the second e?) if she is trying to get it to start with J sound and have 3 syllables.