Now for the girls names.......

I posted a few weeks back with my shortlist and ponderings on the boys list: http://www.babynamewizard.com/forum/needing-a-little-more-help-with-boy-names

So here is where I"m at with girls name.  Siblings are Astr!d El0die and S0ren Augustus.  Surname is similar to W0rth.

Neither of my lists have been run past my husband this go around but most of the names were on our lists from previous pregnancies (although he does sometimes change his mind on things).

My preferred first name candidates (not in any order):

Cordelia

Clementine

Xanthe

Zinnia

Juniper

Octavia

Ariadne

Wilhelmina

Top contenders for middle names (any of the names we don't use from the first name list), plus the following:

Delphine

Mathilde

Juliet

Elke

Theodora

Sibella

Saskia

Cressida

Eirlys

Agnes

The middle names are on the middle name list mostly because I don't like them more than the names on the first name list and/or they either have a pronunciation issue or are too popular for us to use as a first name.  

Any thoughts or comments?  I probably need to narrow down the lists soon (we name after the baby arrives) but I haven't made much progress on either list, I think I add more names rather than taking any off!

 

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September 16, 2018 10:28 AM

From the first name list I would eliminate Ariadne (although it's lovely) because I always prefer not to repeat initials, especially for same sex siblings, when you have other options you like as much. After that my personal favourites of your girls names are Octavia, Clementine and Zinnia, love those and how they sound when said with the others. I also love Juniper as a name but think it fits slightly less well with your older two (which isn't a reason not to use it, but I had to narrow down somehow!). Xanthe, Cordelia and Wilhelmina are really not my style but there's nothing objectively wrong with them; I think Wilhelmina probably goes best with the set, followed by Cordelia.

As far as the middles I would probably go with one of the ones that's more similar in origin to Astr!d and S0ren, because I think that would be a nice link for this baby. Elke is far and away my favourite (it would absolutely have been my vote had it been on the 'first name' list) but obviously Saskia and Mathilde also work in that regard. Not in that category but I love Eirlys, really unusual and beautiful so I'd keep that on the middles list and I like Cressida a lot too. 

Also to be slightly overbearing/unhelpful as you didn't ask for suggestions (and have probably already considered all these names) but I can't resist adding some Scandinavian names that I think may work for you, just in case you wanted to keep to the pattern you have so far, even in the middle spot: Inga, Linnea, Birgitta, Ottilia, Freja, Erika, Kaja

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September 16, 2018 5:25 PM

Ariadne had defnitely slipped down my list since it was first on there 8 years ago when pregnant with my daughter. I still like it and am reluctant to entirely get rid of it, but to be honest we are much more likely to use any of the others.  Aria has become much more popular in the intervening years which doesn't help!

I'm glad you think Octavia, Clementine and Zinnia work in the sibset.  I am not against using a 3rd Scandi name but it wasn't a deliberate theme so am keen to use a name I love that works without locking myself in.

Wilhelmina is the only 'new' name on the list from last go around, not sure how well it goes with our W surname!

I agree on the middle names. Elke I've had on the first name list and I do love it, I just think I'd prefer the others.  Saskia was on the first name list too but my daughter has a friend with that name and it just feels like her name now! Eirlys has been on our list since Astr!d.  

Suggestions are most welcome, I definitely an open to any other names and the middle spot we always decide after we pick the first, so if something works I'm happy to put it in there.  I love Otillia (I should consider that rather than just Otillite) and Freja, both are problematic for us in the first spot for various reasons.  Linnea I like a lot except that we have a friend (who admittedly lives in Sweden) with that name although I could use it in the middle.

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September 17, 2018 2:38 PM

Obviously I don't know your real surname but I find Wilhelmina W0rth on the 'pleasing alliteration' side rather than the 'tongue twister/jarring' side. I think for me it helps that Wilhelmina is such a long name; Wendy W0rth would not be pleasing to my ear even though I still don't find it hard to say.

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September 18, 2018 6:15 AM

It's very similar in flow and length (different vowel sound but not much else) so I also think it sounds fine but some W names do sound weird to me.  There would be the appeal of using Willa as a nickname and I'm not sure how well that goes with the surname?

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September 16, 2018 11:13 AM

Xanthe Juliet - I'd keep with a 2 syllable first name and 3 syllable for middle name

other firsts Ida, Inga, Freya, Heidi, Greta, Clara, Kristin, Ingrid, Beatrice, Thea, Lottie

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September 16, 2018 5:33 PM

Xanthe Juliet is actually one of the options on my combo list! We very nearly used Juliet for the middle last time but it would have given the exact same initials as my husband so we decided not to.  I had pondered the 2-3-1 pattern and it would be nice to keep that if we end up deciding on one of the 2 syllable first names :)

 

Funnily enough my son (who is 4) suggested Ida (EE-da) no idea where he even heard that!

Freya and Greta I'd totally use if they weren't popular here (well too popular for me). Ingrid and Sigrid were on my list first time around but I think Astrid eliminates it as too close.  Theodora nn Thea goes between the first and middle name list!

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September 16, 2018 5:39 PM

I dont think Astrid eliminates Ingrid - I think they are lovely together,  and here I havent heard of a Greta since primary school and only a couple of Freya's

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September 17, 2018 12:40 AM

Interesting that you don't think Astrid and Ingrid are too matchy with the same endings.  To me I assumed one would eliminate the other!

Greta is not super-popular in my area but I do know a few. It's possible I"m in a Freya pocket. I think there are 3 at my daughters school and I know a lot of people who almost used it. It's certainly not uncommon, although definitely not in the realms of Emma, Sophie, Olivia  etc!  I wish we had better stats here so I could see how popular both really are (we only have a top 10 in our state).

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September 17, 2018 2:45 PM

I agree with you that Astrid and Ingrid are a bit similar as sisters for my taste. I think the fact that the -rid ending is pretty uncommon and is half of each name means the similarity stands out more. In the same way Olivia and Sophia would be too matchy for me but Olivia and Freya would not. But of course "too similar" is a very personal measure so if you were fine with Astrid and Ingrid I certainly don't think it's across the line where I would be thinking 'those poor girls'. 

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September 18, 2018 6:19 AM

I feel the same about the endings. It's mostly because they are an unsual ending for girls names.  I had Astrid, Ingrid and Sigrid on the long list when naming my daughter but Astrid was my favourite and ended up suiting her the most.  

Likewise, I don't mind 2 girls names ending in 'a', as it's way more common, but someting like Emmeline and Clementine would be too matchy for me as it's the same ending and number of syllables.

I am also avoiding boys names ending in 'n' or 'en' if they are 2 syllables as I find them too matchy with my son's name, but we still have other multi syllable ending in 'n' names on the list as they don't seem as repetitive to me.

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September 17, 2018 4:45 PM

That's cute about Ida,  my Aunt and Great-Aunt's mn was Ida - pronounced eye-da, my mum's name is Delphine,  you dont hear many.  Her sister was Valma apparently a Scandi name, another sister Rhonda and Dorelle Ida

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September 18, 2018 6:20 AM

Delphine is a long time love of mine, I've never actually met one!

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September 18, 2018 8:13 AM

mum gets excited when she meets one,  she has met 2 in Australia

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September 16, 2018 2:50 PM

I like Xanthe, Zinnia, and Juniper best from your first name options.

Xanthe Juniper

Xanthe Juliet

Xanthe Cordelia

Zinnia Delphine

Zinnia Clementine

Zinnia Agnes

Juniper Xanthe

Juniper Cordelia

Juniper Delphine

Juniper Octavia

Juniper Saskia

 

I saw you had Remy on your boys list, and I really like it for a girl as well.

Remy Juniper

Remy Juliet

Remy Octavia

Remy Cordelia

Remy Theodora

Remy Mathilde

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September 17, 2018 12:48 AM

I do like Remy for a girl too  - you probably noticed that I had Clement/Clementine and Octavian/Octavia on both lists so there ae some names that I just like for either sex. The only reason I haven' got Remy on the girls list is that I think I like some of the other names better.  We definitely aren't having any more kids after this one so I don't have a problem using a name if it's one gender and eliminating from use for the other. I do like those Remy combos.

Of your other combos, I had lots of them on my list that I was pondering - I think my favourites were: Xanthe Delphine, Xanthe Juliet, Zinnia Delphine, Zinnia Clementine, Juniper Delphine.   I like lots of the others too so will add them to the list. It's useful to hear what other people think works!

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September 16, 2018 8:45 PM

I would use every name on your first name list.  Clementine is an old fave of mine and I think it fits well with my boys' names, but I'm pretty sure my husband would only think of fruit.  *eyeroll*

Clementine Agnes is really calling my name right now.  Zinnia is adorable.  I've always been intrigued by Xanthe but I think it's potentially more middle name material for me personally.  Octavia is another old fave, probably top 10 if I were to actually sit down and make a top 10.  Juniper is another name that intrigues me.  Ariadne and Wilhelmina are just fun!

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September 17, 2018 5:59 AM

We obviously have similar taste!  

I like the combo of Clementine Agnes :)  If it's a girl I have so many names I love that it's going to be hard to choose. My husband usually eliminates a heap so that helps.....

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September 16, 2018 9:21 PM

I personally prefer the middle name list to the first name list; Elke, Theodora and Saskia (especially Saskia!) are some of my favourites, and Agnes is a big guilty pleasure. Of the first names, I do quite like Xanthe, and I don't dislike any of the others, I just wouldn't choose them myself.

 

I feel like I'm hearing Juniper more and more, so if you're concerned about popularity, that's something to consider. I'd strike Ariadne off the list for the repeating initial (if you need a reason to narrow down), and it also is similar to more common names like Aria and Ariana.

 

Octavia is jumping out to me as the best choice for a first name. I like it in the sibset, and I love vowel names together (i.e. Astr!d and Octavia). I've never heard it in real life, but it's familiar, easy to spell, and fits in without being too out there (similar to Astr!d and S0ren, I think). I'd pair it with Agnes as a middle, so then all your kids have an "A" initial. Or, Octavia Delphine or Octavia Juliet.

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September 17, 2018 6:03 AM

Juniper does seem to turn up on lots of lists, although I only know of 1 (child of friend of a friend). I think it has potential to be more popular than most of the others.  Octavia, Cordelia etc don't seem to be likely to explode without some new pop culture reference or celebrity influence.

Ariadne is definitely less appealing now than it was 7 years ago when we named our daughter.  I can't quite bring myself to entirely cross it off but there are reasons to not use it over some of the others unless my husband won't agree to anything else!

Lots of people seem to like Octavia.  It was on our long list but not our shortlist when naming our daughter. Octavian made the short list for our son. It's been slowly growing on me.  I do like those Octavia combos.

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September 16, 2018 9:44 PM

Many of the names on both of your lists are longtime favourites of mine, so obviously I'm biased towards those.

One question about Octavia. It's one of my absolute favourite names and a bonus thing if I used it is that my daughter's initials would be OK, which I think is fun (despite the fact that I *always* write the word as "okay", but I digress.) How would you feel about initials OW? (Your actual surname does begin with W, right?)

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September 17, 2018 12:36 AM

I know we do have a fairly bit cross over in taste so figured you'd be keen on a lot of the list!

 

Yes, our surname does start with W.  OW doesn't bother me at all. Hubby and my eldes are both AW's and my son ends up being SAW with the middle which we've never had a single comment on.

OK is very cute!

What would be your top first/middle name combos from my list? I like hearing what others would pick and see if there are any I've missed!

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September 18, 2018 4:28 PM

The only reason I asked is that AW is like, "Aw, isn't that cute!" but OW is an exclamation of pain. I know that some people prefer for initials not to spell anything, but I think that positive/neutral (like SAW) initials are fun. Just wanted to make sure that it didn't bother you.

Alright, combos. I personally prefer when there is good contrast between the sounds in the first and middle names, and judging by your past choices, you do, too. That meant that I didn't just combine my favourite names, but really tried to make pairs of names that I thought sounded really good together. That also meant that some of the middle names that I really like didn't make it into any combinations, since I didn't love how they sounded with the first names.

I think that if I got to name your daughter from this list, I'd call her Cordelia Delphine

With Cordelia I also like: Cordelia Juniper; Cordelia Mathilde (With the French, not German pronunciation); Cordelia Xanthe (it's not my favourite combo, but bonus points for incredible middle initial)

With Octavia, my other favourite first name, I like more or less the same middles. It's no surprise, given the same -ia ending: Octavia Delphine; Octavia Juniper; Octavia Mathilde; Octavia Juliet; Octavia Xanthe (ditto above)

Zinnia. I'm beginning to feel redundant because I am using the same French middle names again for another -ia name. I like how their final sounds are very different from the -ia first names and how their initial consonants follow it. So, Zinnia Delphine, Zinnia Mathilde, Zinnia Juliet; Zinnia Juniper; Zinnia Sibella (not my absolute favourite but I do quite like it)

Those are my favourite first names in combination. There are other names that I can appreciate and will put those in combination, too:

Clementine (I'm assuming -TINE not -TEEN, though to be honest, it wouldn't really change the combinations). Since it's so different from the others above, I like very different combinations: Clementine Sibella; Clementine Cressida; Clementine Eirlys; Clementine Elke; Clementine Zinnia; Clementine Juliet

Juniper was actually by far the easiest to put into combinations! I really like it with Astr!d and S0ren and it sounds fantastic with so many of the other names you like. Silly really that the only thing putting it lower on my list is the fact that I've seen it on so many other people's lists. I've never even seen it on a real human and I'm already feeling like it's not as fresh. Oh, that and I really don't love it with W0rth. But it's a great name and it might sound better with your actual surname, so here's the Juniper list: Juniper Saskia; Juniper Delphine; Juniper Sibella; Juniper Cressida; Juniper Elke; Juniper Mathilde; Juniper Clementine; Juniper Octavia; Juniper Cordelia; Juniper Zinnia I hope that this isn't too many combinations to be helpful!

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September 19, 2018 7:28 AM

I think we might almost be name twins!  When I was pregnant with Astrid my number 1 combo was Cordelia Delphine! When she was born I actually elminated Cordelia from contention pretty quickly as she was not a Cordelia (and still isn't). I've loved that combo every since though and it's pretty much a hot contender this time around should it be a girl and my husband not object.

You are right that I like that I like contrast in sounds between first and middles. I tend to pick combos where there are different numbers of syllables and usually 1 repeated consonant sound but not repeated start or ending sounds.  You have actually hit on a LOT of the combos I had on my list!  Sometime I really like a name but don't really like it in the combo with the first name and like you I seem to favour a lot of the same middle names when working out combos with different first names.

I liked all those Cordelia combos, I think you almost mirrored my list. I did have Cordelia Ottilie until I realised that would give initials of COW which I don't think I'm cool with!

Octavia, you are right the same names work well. My list was very similar, with the addition of Octavia Violet.  I again really like Delphine with Octavia.

Zinnia, I again had a lot of smiliar combos. I also prefer the 'ia' ending names with the middles with a different ending sound. I hadn't thought of Zinnia Sibella, which does work. I had Zinnia Clementine on the list too.

Clementine, yes we'd go with 'ine' not 'een' on the ending. I have a hard time making the ending 'een' even though I know most people pronounce the fruit that way!  I actaully had Clementine Cressida too, I think it kind of works.  I hadn't thought of Clementine Elke or Clementine Sibella but like them too.

I only know 1 actual Juniper but you are right it is talked about a lot! I haven't seen it make the top 100 anywhere here in Aus so I think it's not actually that popular.  I think Cordelia or Octavia woudl be a far less popular choice (have you come across othe Cordelias?).  Clementine and Zinnia I see mentioned a bit but again don't know any.
I agree that Juniper seems to work well with lots of the middle names, I don't think there are many it doesn't work with.

Definitely not too many combos, I like seeing what other people think works/sounds good.  You hit on an amazing number I already had on my list and added quite a few for me to ponder :)  I'll have to get you working on the boys list with middles!

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September 18, 2018 7:22 PM

To complete the circle of sibling initials, this one would have to be Elke Sibella or Eirlys Saskia... :-)

Hmm... Shakespeare: Cordelia Juliet. Floral: Juniper Delphine or Zinnia Delphine. Greek: Xanthe Cressida or Ariadne Sibella. Most Holy: Ariadne Agnes. (I actually quite like the combination.)

This is fun, but I'll stop there. The point (if there is one <grin>) is that the associations and significance of the names can help to find the combination that speaks to you most.

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September 19, 2018 7:36 AM

Oh that is a cute idea with the circle of sibling initials, if it comes down to a tie break on a few names that might work, I like those combos!

The themed first/middle names are great.  I had thought of a few of them.  I was keen to use either a French/Scandinavian or Scottish name in either the first or middle spots for this baby but I'm not tied to anything in particular (and I don't really have many Scottish names on the list, particularly for girls).  

As much as I like 2 botanical or nature names together, I think in reality I'd keep them on the fantasy list as it's probably too much, 1 nature name though I'm up for!  

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September 19, 2018 2:33 PM

Yasmin, Heather, Calla, Laurel, Ember, Bronte, Clarice, Portia, Darcy, Edith, Willa, Primrose, Beatrix, Corinne, Colette, Helen, Laura, Mavis, Chandra, Estelle, Lyra, Beatrice, Camille. Celeste, Cosette, Daphne, Elise, Francine, Gorgette, Gisele, Helene, Josette, Lara, Leah, Lilou, Lisette, Lucille, Maelle, Maelys, Margot, Marise, Martine, Maylis, Monique, Nadine, Nicole, Nina, Noelle, Odette, Olive, Paulene, Renee, Roxanne, Yvonne, Yvette, Zoe, Eilidh, Elsbeth, Ishbel, Kirstin, Maisie, Celine, Cecile, Chantal, Maeva, Margo, Patrice, Rachelle, Bonnie, Elsie, Rochelle, Michelle, Mireille

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September 19, 2018 1:33 AM

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September 19, 2018 3:23 AM

Heads up that there is a fairly silly of fantasy books (intentionally so - kinda fantasy-comedy, equal parts dragons and swords and spells and jokes) set in the magical land of Xanth.  I liked them in high school and just checked wikipedia (after all, that's a long time ago).... the series is still going strong due to fan-fiction.  One of those bestseller hits that's gone on and on and on.  Now anyone is invited to write their own Xanth novel and if the original author/editor likes it, it will get published as an official part of the series.  Forty-one books so far.  That's a lot.  Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know about this popular-culture association.   It would definitely be a deal-breaker for me.

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September 19, 2018 7:40 AM

Oh thanks for that, I actually had no idea about that, I will go check that out. I'm not sure if it bothers me or not, but definitely good to know.

My biggest reservation with Xanthe (thus far) is that I'm not sure if the repeated 'th' sound between the first and surname is lispy.  I think ti's OK, but I'm interested in what others think on that one!

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September 19, 2018 1:41 PM

I dont think it is and I love Xanthe with your others - I'd stay with the 2 syllables for this one too

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September 19, 2018 2:25 PM

Hmm I hadn't thought of that, it's probably to the level that I wouldn't do it for my kid (because it would annoy me) but not to the level that I would actually struggle with it or think it should be a deal breaker for everyone. 

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September 20, 2018 5:07 AM

Yeah I'm not sure either, most days I don't think it's annoying with the 2 'th' sounds and other days I notice it!  People seem split on it too, some say it's fine and others that they notice it.

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September 19, 2018 2:53 PM

I read a bunch of those when I was younger so I definitely saw the connection, but it wouldn't bother me personally. I say the books/world as a single syllable (Zanth), and the name as two (Zan-thee) so they don't feel too similar. It would probably be different if my associations with Xanth were hugely negative (or if I was really bothered by being associated with goofy sword-and-sorcery stuff!).

If you're interested in reading any of these, I personally preferred the later "Elementals" series over the original novels, which I mainly recall as being chock-a-block with bad puns.

Having said that, I love most of the -anthe names, so if this association nixes Xanthe for you you could always see if any of those grab you.

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September 20, 2018 11:05 PM

Welcome back, Chimu. I always love your name lists, and I'm so pleased to see you return.

reading back over the previous comments, I adore Wilhelmina nn Willa W0rth, it has a lovely breezy confidence that I also associate with Astrid.

Wilhelmina Agnes, Clementine Agnes, Cordelia Agnes ... loving Agnes, and Elke works well with each of these names too.

Zinnia Delphine is delightful, and goes well with your first two (btw our neighbour is Delphine, she's French and elegant and her accent is wonderful as it drifts over the fence).

Juniper is definitely a name that everyone seems to love, but nobody seems to use. I quite like it paired with Eirlys. 

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September 21, 2018 7:43 AM

Welcome back Cee Cee, good to see you!

Another vote for Wilhelmina (I didn't consider this one 7 years ago). Most people seem to be fine with the aliteration so that is good to know!

Part of the appeal of using Delphine is the French connection (Astrid has a French middle name and we go over quite frequently).

Another vote for Zinnia working in the sibset is good!

I agree that Juniper seems to get talked about more than actually used. I think Astrid is a bit the same, we don't come across many at all but lots of people say they considered it or know a second-cousin of their neighbour etc with that name but I think it's still pretty uncommon.  I do know someone in Melbourne who knows a few though!

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September 21, 2018 1:53 AM

Very brief comment is all I have time for, but I want to say that Wilhelmina fits well the Scandi theme for me, as it's very associated with Queen WIlhelmina of the Netherlands, which admittedly isn't Scandinavia but is close enough with the tall Europeans and the good health care. And it's a formidable name for me in the same way that Astrid is! So to me, it seems like a natural fit. Octavia is my second runner up, it has similar formidable-factor while being slightly less Northern European in feel to me.

I love Ariadne but the squishiness of the pronunciation on this one drives me crazy (the fact that there are two syllables that permute in all the ways) and ultimately removed it from my own shorter list making.

Xanthe makes me think less of Xanth and more of Xanthan gum. (I read nutrition labels a lot out of a food chemistry curiosity.) 

Cordelia and Clementine are names that I like very much, they just don't fit with your kids' names for me for reasons that are hard to pin down. Cordelia is more of a romantic frill of a name that somehow doesn't quite fit with the more sleek/crisp feel that Astrid and Soren share. Clementine is more of a country-sweet name than the exotic or at least overtly Europeanish flair of your other kids' names. I don't think kids have to match as a sibling set, mind, but those particular names seem very "one of these things is not like the others" to me personally, especially if you're definitely stopping at a trio. 

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September 21, 2018 7:49 AM

I was wondering when you were going to comment!  Dutch is close enough for me, we've been to the Netherlands twice in the last 5 years and I'm generally fine with a European feel.

Most people seem to agree that Wilhelmina and Octavia fit well in the sibset (Zinnia and Xanthe seem to get similar votes). I think Clementine is definitely more of an outlier in style but I've always liked it (I doubt it will get past the husband again but who knows?).  Cordelia sometimes I think works well with the other 2 and other times not so much.  This is definitely the last baby so while I'm not wedded to a matchy sibset it is a consideration.  

I've definitely gone off Ariadne a lot due to the pronunciaiton issues and Aria is super-popular these days.  I'm almost tempted to consider Elke, Eirlys and Delphine on the first name list.

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September 21, 2018 5:58 PM

Wilhelmina W0rth would certainly make a very memorable name. I think it wouldn't suit everyone though.

 

I love the idea of Elke for you!

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September 24, 2018 1:13 AM

I wouldnt do another  A or S name and I'd keep with the 2 syllables - Xanthe, Elke, Eirlys and Delphine

Beatrix, Chantal, Daphne, Edith, Elise, Eva, Emma, Gemma, Giselle, Helga, Ida, Hilda, Inga, Janna, Justine, Karin, Katrine, Katrien, Lara, Liesel, Heidi, Louise, Magda, Mia, Nina, Nora, Rosa, Tessa, Yvonne, Yvette, Zoe, Vera, Lisa, Rina

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October 2, 2018 7:25 AM

I"m definitely less keen on another A or S name.  The 2 syllable names do work well with the others but I'm not entirely tied to it. I seem to have a lot of longer names on both boys and girls lists this time around!

 

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September 24, 2018 5:33 PM

I really love Elke and Eirlys (Delphine is pretty too, it's just a bit too flowery and gentle for my taste, I like girls names with a bit of zing). I feel like Elke is the best sib-set match out of all your names and I think it would be not too tricky for most people on the pronouncing/spelling scale. Eirlys I love because it's so unusual and I have a fondness for Celtic names, I think it's a really pretty sound (and would be even better in a Welsh accent). However I think that many, probably most, people would struggle with pronouncing it and spelling it so I think you would need to love it to make dealing with that worth the hassle. 

One more thing that occurred to me; if you went with Zinnia your kids names would go from A to Z which is quite fun. 

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October 2, 2018 7:28 AM

I think the only reason Elke hasn't been on the first name list is that Ellie is really popular here (Eleanor, Ellie, Elle etc all get shortened to Ellie) and I didn't want to run into that problem.  Our daughers middle name is Elodie which was only considered for a middle due to the Ellie problem!  I don't see why Elke would get shortened to Ellie but it did worry me!

I do love Eirlys and we did think about it for a first name last time around but I agree the pronunciation is quite difficult for most people (and it gets a bit mangled with an Aussie accent).

Delphine I've always loved but didn't want getting shortened to 'Del'.  I'm not sure it would though.

The A to Z thing with Astrid and Zinnia is rather cute, and the kids would be in alpahabetical order by birth (S in the middle)!

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By EVie
September 24, 2018 10:26 AM

I always love your lists so much, I have a hard time coming up with any reply other than "They're all great!" And I generally don't put too much stock in matching sibsets beyond the standard of "good enough," so I'm not sure that's super helpful in narrowing down the list. But for the sake of the exercise, I'll make an attempt...

Astr!d and S0ren are so well-matched that it's hard to find a third that doesn't replicate the same sleek, bright Scandinavian style. Elke and Saskia from your middle name list definitely do this the best, but there's nothing on the first name list that is exactly on point. For me, the best stylistic fits from the first name list are Zinnia and Juniper—the botanical origins give them a bright, fresh zing that fits well with the brightness of your other kids, and I like the zippy Z of Zinnia and the poppy P in Juniper. I also happen to have a lot of zinnias in my garden this year, and they're super fun and colorful and energetic. I also like the cadence of the sibset with either of these names added—no endings replicated, a different number of syllables for variety but still feels similarly scaled.

Ariadne is probably actually my personal favorite name on your list (right now, anyway), but I know you've cooled on it, and it's admittedly not ideal with Astr!d and your surplus of A names. It does still capture some of that lightness and brightness I like, though.

Cordelia and Clementine both feel a bit stylistically farther afield from your kids—they still have a light, floaty feel to me, but they're longer and lacier. I do really like the addition of a C name to your set, though (for some reason, A,S,C initials feel really harmonious to me), and I think Elodie provides enough of a bridge to that style they still work, especially if you add a sleeker middle.

Xanthe gives me some pause, mainly because that X makes it feel edgier than your existing set. I do really like the name, though, and it fits in terms of the length, ending and brightness. I think it works better aurally than visually, if that makes sense

Wilhelmina and Octavia are the most jarring in the sibset for me. Still great names, they just feel much *heavier*, darker, more serious. I have been thinking of names in terms of interior design a lot lately, and if your first two kids are Scandinavian minimalist, these two are Victorian maximalist (which I think would make Cordelia and Clementine, I don't know, boho chic? I'm seeing lace curtains, macrame and lots of plants). This also may be partly my mild alphabet synesthesia coming into play, because your first two kids' names are super bright to me (Astr!d is a bright red A with shades of yellow and orange; S0ren is very yellow), while Wilhelmina and Octavia are super dark (Wilhelmina lots of blue with some red/purple tones, and Octavia has that very dark purple/black O with some strong green tones from the v). Add that to the length, and they just feel very different from your existing set. Again, I don't think that's a dealbreaker or anything, just my impression if matching is something you're taking into account.

But really, since I know you're going to wait to meet the baby anyway, I would pick mostly based on my feelings about each name's personality. Wilhelmina or Octavia for a quiet, serious baby; Xanthe, Zinnia or Juniper for a more feisty and puckish one; Cordelia or Clementine if she feels like a little lady; Ariadne somewhere in between the last two, girly but with a mischievous streak.

For middle pairings, I also like a bit of contrast in style, ending and meter. I'm finding Zinnia kind of hard to match from your choices; Zinnia Delphine or Zinnia Clementine are the ones that I like the sound of the best, but I'd prefer not to use another name with botanical associations. I also would prefer a middle that doesn't end in A, but also doesn't start with a vowel, which rules out most of the other names your your list and leaves Zinnia Juliet and possibly Zinnia Mathilde, depending on pronunciation.

Juniper is easier, and makes some nice combinations: Juniper Saskia, Juniper Cressida, Juniper Cordelia, Juniper Mathilde.

Ariadne is also super easy to combine: Ariadne Clementine, Ariadne Cordelia, Ariadne Delphine, Ariadne Juniper, Ariadne Saskia, Ariadne Cressida, Ariadne Zinnia, Ariadne Sibella and more.

I really love Clementine Saskia. Clementine Agnes, Clementine Xanthe, Clementine Elke.

Cordelia runs in the A ending/beginning issue again, but I really like Cordelia Xanthe, Cordelia Juniper, Cordelia Delphine. Cordelia Juliet is gorgeous but maybe too heavy on the Shakespeare. I pretty much like Octavia and Wilhelmina with the same set of middles.

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October 2, 2018 7:46 AM

I have had a super busy couple of weeks with husband landing in hospital so finally getting back to read everyones comments!

When we named S0ren I did think that we'd inadvertently matched so well that it was going to be hard to top.  I was pretty sure we weren't having any more kids as hubby wasn't keen so it wasn't a concern but now we've gone and stuffed that up.

Agree that another Scandi name is a better fit and Elke and Saskia are probably the best stylistic match (I have no ida what is the best match from the boys list, maybe Otto or Casper?).

I agree on the other kids feeling like they bright and fresh.  I do think that Cordelia, Wilhelmina and Octavia aren't quite the same feel. 

That is really interesting with the synathesia, I always love hearing what peoples impressions and associations with names are!

You are right about meeting the baby first! Cordelia was a front runner for Astrid but she was so not a Cordelia when she was born (and still isn't).  I ruled out Octavian for similar reasons for Soren, so I suspect the same thing will happen again and we'll just dismiss names as not fitting!

I definitely also don't like repeated endings with first/middle and tend to prefer the different syllable counts too!  Mathilde, we were going with ma-TEELD so that works with quite a few of the first names as it doesn't double the 'a' or 'ia' endings.

Lots of good combos there, I'll add them to my list, it's good to see what other people think works well too!

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September 24, 2018 11:26 PM

Cordelia - so cute! On my list as a fn, with the nn Cora (although Delia & Ellie make cute alternatives, or even Ella!)

Clementine - super cute and vintage, but I wouldn't use it.

Xanthe - this is such a cool name, but I think you'd run into spelling errors.

Zinnia - I adore this name! It is so cool.

Juniper - this is one of my favourites on this list. I love it with the nn June!

Octavia - I love this name! Super cute.

Ariadne - it's ok, but it reminds me of spiders (arachnids)

Wilhelmina - this is adorable & I wish it was more common. I also love Willa, which is on my list!

 

I think my favourites would be Cordelia and Juniper! Good luck - lots of cute name options here!

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September 26, 2018 4:01 AM

Are you still looking for Scandinavian-feel names?  I'm thinking Freya, Inga, Solveig/Solvega, Irina, Silja, Valkyrie, Satu, Salla, Karen, Nina.  You might also scout out some lists of Finnish names.  While Norwegian, Danish, and Swedish are more or less dialects of each other, Finnish is a totally different language and you might bet some fresh ideas and unique names that don't appear in neighboring countries.  And not-quite-Scandinavian but have feel that might go with your other kids: Willa, Petra, Adelaide, Idella.

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October 2, 2018 7:49 AM

Yes both Finnish and Icelandic are quite different. I was hoping to dig up some gems to add to the boys name list but haven't quite found many that I like as much as the names already on the list (or are pronouncable!).

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October 4, 2018 12:32 AM

I've been meaning to comment here for ages and keep forgetting. Sorry! For you I would pick Juniper Saskia from these lists. Juniper has a similar feel to Astr!d for me, feminine but not frilly, more on the spunky side but a name that will age well. Saskia is a name I really enjoy, I feel is totally underused, and fits with the Scandinavian style of your older two.

Runners up for me would be Octavia, Zinnia, Clementine for first names. In the middle spot I think Elke, Agnes, or Juliet work well. They have different beginning and ending sounds than the first names. Hope that's helpful!

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October 5, 2018 6:18 AM

Thanks Lturtle, that is helpful :)  Saskia and Juniper do seem to be a similar vibe to Astrid.  I definitely like middles with different begnining and ending sounds so have quite a few combos with those names !