Round 2 for yet another girl

so I posted here earlier about the name Elsa wondering about the whole Frozen thing...and it’s since been scratched from the list.  

Im needing a third girl name that goes nicely with my current two girls Charlotte Ivy and Camilla Violet. 

Some other names we've considered but ruled out for various reasons are Victoria, Annabel, Lydia, Elsa, Audrey, Eleanor. 

Currently we have the following names in a bit of short list:

CHLOE - we had this on our list last time, it’s nice but not sure if three “C” names are overkill.  We may or may not have mother child and I think having three with the same letter and then a possible fourth with a different letter would seem odd. 

MEREDITH - this is our current top contender.  One concern is that it isn’t feminine enough compared to Charlotte and Camilla? Is it a bit too dated and heavy for a little girls name? 

OLIVIA - always a classic, I do like Olivia but it’s popularity makes it a bit boring for me 

VIVIENNE - don’t love it but could grow on me...

Any feedback or suggestions you have would be ever appreciated. I’m starting to feel a little panicked again and that we are just going to have to pick any name regardless if it’s “the” name or not... 3 weeks to go!!! 

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November 12, 2017 9:55 PM

We also don’t mind the name Elsie as an alternative to Elsa but I just wonder if Elsie is too nicknamey and not a good name for a child to grow into as a teen and adult?

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November 13, 2017 1:30 AM

CHLOE - I think Chloe goes best,  I'd go the 3 C's  - other C's Celeste, Celia, Cecilia, Cordelia, Celina, Clara,  Claire, Clarissa, Colleen, Coralie, Cressida, Cora, Cecile, Caroline, Catherine, Chantal, Chelsea, Christine, Christina, Crista, Caitlyn, Candice, Carolyn, Carissa, Cassandra

 MEREDITH - is ok

 OLIVIA  Olivia is lovely,  Charlotte is just as popular

 VIVIENNE - is nice, or Genevieve

 my Aunt is Elsie and its served her well in all ages,  its not just a nn its a standalone name

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November 13, 2017 1:52 AM

For me, three makes a pattern, so I would avoid a C- name this time if you might have more children and don't want to commit to the C- theme for all of them.

If you're in the US, then I don't think anyone will question the femininity of Meredith. It is a little bit dated, but not terribly so, and I don't find it any heavier than Charlotte or Camilla.

Do you like Olive as an alternative to the very popular Olivia? There's also the near-soundalike Livia, which has a different derivation. Another name with similar sounds that I like is Lavinia, which I think would go very well with Charlotte and Camilla.

Personally I don't have a problem with putting a nickname like Elsie on the birth certificate, and I love the name Elsie. It's been climbing the charts over the past decade, so obviously there are many others who think Elsie works perfectly well as the full legal name, too. Of course, you could use Elizabeth as the full legal name and Elsie as either a full-time or part-time nickname.

Some other names you might like:

Lillian, Madeline, Helena, Genevieve, Josephine, Felicity, Natalie, Isabel(le), Evangeline, Hazel, Susanna

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November 13, 2017 11:14 AM

I agree that having a third C name would definitely indicate a pattern. However, Charlotte doesn't come off with the same C sound as Camilla and Chloe, which lessens the everyday notice of it (if that makes sense) for me. 

I like Meredith! I do feel it can be dated, but I also feel like its coming back because of things like Greys Anatomy, where the main character is a Meredith, I believe. I also think one of the Duggar kids just named their child Meredith not too long ago. 

To me, Olivia is a very nice name but I agree that it has become extremely overused. I know SO many Olivias all under the age of 5. 

Vivienne to me is a beautiful, classic name. However, if you don't like it- don't use it! 

 

Just to make things even more complicated, I'll throw in a couple of suggestions: Julia, Nora, Lila, Eva

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November 13, 2017 3:15 PM

Yes, i think the different sound of Charlotte and Camilla doesn’t make the c thing too noticeable but a third c will definitely seem like a pattern. 

I wasnt aware of the Duggar baby Meredith, I guess things like that can always give rise to the name. My husband loves Meredith and while I do like it, as you said it does feel a little dated to me. 

Do you think that Vivienne has the same dated feel to it as a Meredith? 

Norah was also on my short list but hubby didn’t like it... as was Lila

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November 14, 2017 7:17 PM

I don't see Vivienne as dated at all. I only know 1 person named Vivienne, and she is under 5. I honestly think that Vivienne fits the best with your other girls' names style-wise, as well. I think of Charlotte and Camilla as both very strong but feminine names, and Vivienne feels that way to me, as well. 

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By EVie
November 13, 2017 11:50 AM

I think Meredith is just fine with Charlotte and Camilla. It's more of a 70s/80s name than those, but if you look at the charts, it actually has been rebounding a bit over the last few years, and I don't think it feels so strongly dated as to be unusable. I also don't find it heavy at all. I think it's the most surprising and interesting of your choices.

I will throw out this, though: Elsie does not need a name starting with Els- as a full name. I would be very comfortable using it for any El- name that you would use Ellie for: Eleanor, Eloise, Elodie, Elowen, Electra. As I mentioned in another thread, -sy/-sie is a very common way to make a diminutive and doesn't need any particular reason to be there. Betty/Betsy, Patty/Patsy. Terry Pratchett features a fictional character named Mr. Bunnsy who is a bunny. If I named a daughter Victoria, I would use the nickname Vixie, not Vicky. Jules is often used as a nickname for Julia or Juliet, why not Julesy instead of Julie? And I think any of those El- names would go just fine with your other daughters. 

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November 13, 2017 11:55 AM

I completely agree! I call my husband Pup (he's basically the human version of a golden lab), but when the nickname needs a nickname, I often call him Pupsy. 

I would also stay away from another C name unless it's The Name that you cannot live without. If you do use one, it would be nice if it started with a soft C so that, despite all sharing an initial, each girl would have her own starting sound.

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November 13, 2017 12:08 PM

I agree with this whole thread. For a C name, either a soft-C like Cecily or a harder-Ch like Chelsea would help distinguish the names, but overall I'd be wary of a third C name unless it's the only one that makes your heart sing.

For a long-form for Elsie, I even think you could do a name that ends in -el or -elle. I think Giselle, called Elsie, would be adorable.

If you do want a really obvious source, Elsinore might be an option, though it's a bit more out-there than your other girls' names--it's the castle in Hamlet, and combines the sounds of Eleanor and Elsie/Elsa.

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November 13, 2017 3:30 PM

Meredith also seems the most interesting choice to me also but maybe it’s the 70/80’s feel to it that makes it seem a bit dowdy?! Arghh... I don’t know... 

great point about using any El names with the nickname Elsie, I actually had this exact idea in mind for Eleanor! Hubby thought Eleanor sounded like an older name so didn’t like it, so hard to agree on a name the third time around. I do like Elsie so maybe I’ll go back and work on some similar El names to your suggestions and see what we can come up with

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November 13, 2017 1:39 PM

I typically don't care for sibsets with matching initials.  However, I do like that Charlotte & Camilla don't have the same starting sound, even if they do technically share the initial.  For other C names, I'd suggest looking for one with a unique starting sound.  Celeste, Celine, Cecilia, Cecily, etc.  That way, if you do have a 4th and don't want another C name, it perhaps won't seem quite so obvious when the names are said together.   If you do go with Chloe, I'd recommend making sure you have at least one or two other C names that could be solid contenders, just in case you need them later.

Meredith is fine, and if it is your favorite name, I see no reason why you shouldn't use it.  In modern usage it's just as femine as your daughters' names.  I personally don't find it particularly heavy, though I agree it is a bit of a "mom" name.  But feeling slightly dated isn't a good reason to not use a favorite name.  Do you use nicknames for your daughters?  Perhaps the idea of Charlie, Millie and Mery or Lottie, Cammie, and Mery would help you move past some of the cons of using Meredith.

Olivia is lovely & style wise fits really well with Charlotte & Camilla.  I agree that it is a bit boring.

Vivienne is also lovely and a nice style-match for your daughter's names.  It's more exciting to me that Olivia, but it sounds as though you just aren't excited by it.  

Other suggestions for a sister to Charlotte and Camilla; Victoria, Phoebe, Lucy, Audrey, Emma, Tess/Tessa.

 

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November 13, 2017 3:44 PM

Yeah I think I have the same feeling about Meredith as you when you describe it as a bit of a “mum” name... maybe that’s my hesitation with it. It seem to lack a bit of prettiness and pizazz, but at the same tim I like it as it’s a bit different to the others such as Chloe and Olivia. 

Olivia is lovely isn’t it! Guess that’s why it’s so popular, Charlotte is popular too but it just doesn’t seem as boring and obvious a choice as a Olivia does to me..but maybe that’s just me. 

inthink I prefer the prettiness and sound of Vivienne over Meredith but was concerned that Vivienne might also seem a bit dated? 

Audrey was in our list but some friends recently went with that for their daughter so while we could still use it we’d prefer to pick something different. Victoria does well with Charlotte and Camilla, although the nickname Vicky always makes me cautious. 

 

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November 13, 2017 6:14 PM

Audrey and Vivienne make me think of Adrienne. I don't think a Victoria would automatically become Vicky but it's obviously a possibility, so probably best to avoid if you can't stand it. Although if you gave her a different nickname first (Tori/Ria/Vee) then I'd say it's less likey she would change to Vicky. 

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November 13, 2017 6:10 PM

Chloe-I really like this name, and I think I said in one of your previous threads that for me it actually isn't too same-y with the older girls due to different start and end sounds, BUT it sounds like you are really not that keen on it anymore and would only be choosing it so that you could have a C name. And I would agree with your concerns and what most other people have said that having 3 with the same letter would leave you in a tricky place if you have a fourth. Because of that I would probably eliminate Chloe.

Meredith-I don't find this particularly masculine and to me it doesn't feel overwhelmingly mum-ish (although that could be to do with location), I actually think it's a pretty good match style-wise with Camilla. It is not the most flowing of names but I do think there's a certain beauty to it. Meredith makes me want to suggest Matilda, Marissa, Angeline, Hannah.

Olivia-Is a lovely name but does feel a little overly popular. I think it matches very nicely with your older girls though. Olivia makes me think of Jessica, Juliette, Ella, Alexandra.

Vivienne-is pretty and again I like how it sounds with your girls' names, but it feels more like you've put it in because you can't think of an objection to it than because you actually like it.

Elsie-I generally don't have a problem with nickname names being the whole name, and I don't think Elsie is bad (it's very sweet) but it does feel a little incomplete when put next to Charlotte and Camilla. I was going to suggest Elise or Elisa as being the closest sound-alikes while feeling like "long" names but I do agree with previous comments that any El- name (or name ending with a strong -el/elle sound) could yield Elsie as a nickname if that's something you're into. And of course Elsie is originally from Elizabeth which would keep with the royal feel of the older two.

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November 14, 2017 7:09 AM

It is annoying, because Chloe goes so well, but I would be hesitant to add another C, particularly if you might have one more.

MEREDITH - understanding of "dated"-ness is so subjective. I've never met a single Meredith, so it doesn't seem dated to me, but I see the numbers in the Name Voyager tool support that. To me, if anything, Chloe sounds dated, although much more recently, and it's still coming down. I think Meredith goes well with your girls, with a similar heft to Charlotte and a similar length to Camila, but it also sounds like you're not in love with it.... It always makes me think of Muriel for some reason. Or, taking another tack, my favourite dated 80s name that I think should be brought back is Heather. Any interest?

OLIVIA is boring to name enthusiasts, but well liked by the population at large, as evidenced by its popularity.

VIVIENNE - The first time I heard this in an English-speaking context was when Angelina Jolie named one of her twins Vivienne in 2008, so it doesn't feel dated at all to me. If anything it feels new. I think it's very pretty, although I've always preferred Vivian.

Other names I think go nicely: Genevieve, Louisa, Adelaide, Juliet, Iris, Beatrice..

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November 14, 2017 5:32 PM

haha! You described Meredith so well when you compared it to Muriel...I think that’s how I feel about it too. Hubby is in love with Meredith though!  Heather is really not my cup of tea unfortunately, I’d just love to get that one name that jumps out and says ”yep this is the one” like I did with the two other girls.

we did have Beatrice on our original list but I felt it was just that little bit too old ladyish. 

Vivienne or Vivian seems to have a little more excitement than Meredith to me

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November 14, 2017 8:17 PM

I must be in a Vivian pocket. There are two in my grandson's second grade class, and a third is a sister of one of his classmates. Otherwise the only Vivians I knew were a generation or so older than I am.

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November 15, 2017 4:54 AM

In a similar vein to Vivienne, how about Valentina?

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November 15, 2017 7:12 AM

I don’t mind Valentina, I hope it doesn’t sound too Italian or European as we are not from that background (not hat I think it would matter too much) I’ll have to mention it to hubby and see his thoughts