Twins due soon!

Hi! I am having twins very soon. There is a boy and a girl. The boys first name is Arliss, and we are still deciding on a middle name. The girl we are clueless about!

here are the girl names we were thinkng about but decided against:

Charlotte

Laney

Thats all we got .

The middle names for Arliss were Jack, Oliver, and Thomas, but they didn't sound right. I like Logan for his middle but my husband doesn't. Need help ASAP! Thanks!

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January 28, 2016 4:18 PM

I wasn't familiar with the name Arliss, so I looked it up on the Behind the Name website.  Apparently, it's a Hebrew name meaning "pledge."  

So perhaps some other less common (at least in the U.S.) Hebrew names would appeal for girls?  Talia, Adara, Aviva, Lior/Liora?

Based on Charlotte & Laney, I'll suggest Lucy, Delaney, Violet, Sophia/Sophie, Chloe & Audrey.

I generally think a good middle name should have some kind of personal meaning behind it.  I think this is more important than just flow.  Are there any family honor names you might want to use?  Historical or literary figures you'd want to name after?  Place or nature names with special meaning for you?  Or perhaps virtue names?  If none of these apply, I think Arliss Jack is the best from your list.  Arliss Thomas is also nice.  Arliss Oliver sounds very slurry to me and I'm not a fan of Logan.

Based only on flow, I think something simple/traditional and perhaps a bit snappy would sound nice next to the less common and very soft sounds of Arliss.  James, Jacob, Zachary, Caleb, Cole, Max.  I'd suggest avoiding names with prominent "ar" or "s" sounds.

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By BCR
January 28, 2016 4:51 PM

We are jewish, but I didn't realize that Arliss was hebrew. I like Talia, but my sister-in-law is named that, and my husband doesn't like the idea of naming after siblings. We didn't like Charlotte because we perfer less common names and Laney sounded to much like my nephews name.

For Arliss I like the idea of a family middle name. My fathers name is Jack, and that was his fathers name, and his fathers name, and his fathers name, but he didn't have a son to pass the name onto, so that could possibley work for Arliss's middle name. 

I love to read. giving my daughter a literary name would be very cool. I don't know if my husband would agree to this, but I like it.

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January 28, 2016 7:41 PM

If you are Ashlenazic, the tradition is to name after deceased family.  If you are Sephardic, the tradition is to name after living relatives.  Whether you are Ashkenazic or Sephardic, Jack would be suitable since you have both living and deceased Jacks in the family.  If I were doing the naming I would consider Jacob, since Jewish Jacks are likely to really be Jacobs.  For a daughter, cast your eyes over your family tree, looking for a person you would like to honor with your daughter's name, and then consider using that person's name either as is or in some other form associated by either sound or meaning.

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By BCR
January 28, 2016 8:24 PM

I like Jacob for a middle name. But, I still perfer Jack because my Family has used that name for a while. I looked over our family tree with my husband, and, we found the name Arlene. It is an 'A' name, but we liked it. I looked it up, and turns out, it means Plegde, just like Arliss. I thought that it was really interesting, and I talked my husband into naming our girl that. It will be nice for them to have that connection

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January 28, 2016 9:52 PM

I think I know where you got the information that Arliss/Arlene mean pledge in Hebrew, but I don't think it's accurate.  I just checked Hebrew translations for the various meanings of pledge, and none of them looks like Arliss/Arlene (and, yes, I do read Hebrew).  Arlene is probably a literary coinage, and Arliss bears no resemblance to any Hebrew name of which I am aware, and I did some googling to see if I was missing anything.  I have found Arlis(s) categorized as a Hebrew name meaning promise as well as pledge (well, pledge and promise are synonyms), and I have found a number of Hebrew words which in some way can be used to translate promise/pledge, but none of them includes the consonants found in Arliss.  The sites which listed Arliss as Hebrew promise, pledge are highly questionable.  I found nothing looking like Arliss in reliable sites that list Hebrew names.  I would say that if you like Arliss and Arlene go ahead and use them, but if your interest in these names is specifically because you like the idea that they mean pledge/promise in Hebrew, I would give it another thought.  I would definitely check these names with a rabbi if that derivation is important to you, because while I don't think it's accurate, there may be some rare word/name that I am missing.

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By BCR
January 28, 2016 10:22 PM

Thanks! I thought through it again, and decided that it would be cofusing if they both had Arl names. I also checked some other sites, and it looks like you were right, it doesn't mean pledge/promise. I think I will do a literary name for her from one of my favourite books, like to kill a mockingbird, the time travelers wife, or pride and prejudice. Although I wouldn't want to name her Clare, or Elizabeth, Scout could work as a middle name, and Bennet is good, but it sounds like a boys name.

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January 28, 2016 10:41 PM

The Behind the Name entries for Arliss are user-submitted, and inaccurate. Arliss is actually an English surname-turned-given name, and the surname derives from the Old English for "earless".

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January 29, 2016 1:40 AM

I found several sites which list Arliss as Hebrew, some giving the "meaning" as promise and others as pledge.  Which probably means that two different erroneous exemplars were copied.Where that idea came from in the first place, I have no idea, but anyone who actually knows Hebrew would never give that etymology.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 10:23 AM

I have also seen multiple sites where Arliss is Hebrew meaning Promise/Pledge, but I've also seen it where it's Irish. However, I have not seen anywhere the meaning 'earless'. I think this information is innaccurute, and I wonder if maybe you were looking at the wrong site?

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January 29, 2016 11:41 AM

The source for the "earless" derivation is a book: A Dictionary of English Surnames by P.H. Reaney and R.M. Wilson. It's considered a scholarly and trustworthy work, because the etymologies in it are based on actual old records -- how names were written, the variations that are known to refer to the same person, common vocabulary of the time, etc. Here's the entry on Arliss:

Arliss, Arles, Harliss: Henry Earles 1295 Barnwell (Cambridgeshire). Old English ēare and lēas 'ear-less'.

Of course, it's possible that there's also a name from some other language that has become conflated with the surname Arliss due to similarity in sound, but I have not seen convincing evidence of any such name.

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January 30, 2016 2:52 PM

My dad's town has a dialect that sounds straight out of Chaucer, and I could well imagine Arliss coming from Earless around those parts! I certainly don't think the OP should worry about that though... as you say, it's a surname, and the original earless has been dead for over a thousand years.

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January 29, 2016 6:18 AM

I really love Arliss Jack or Arliss Jacob for you.

Bennett does sound like a boys name to me and Scout I am not a fan of at all. Scout sounds more like a nickname then a actual name.

If you have a look at behind the name.com there is a whole section of literature names listed.

Some girl ideas for you... Amaryllis, Belphoebe, Cosette, Elanor, Guinevere, Eowyn, Morgan, Lunete, Nimue, Nelida, Nerissa, Nydia, Vivien, Zaire, Titania.

Other ideas... Sarai, Jasmine, Phoebe, Naomi, Isannah, Selene, Cleo.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 10:38 AM

Although Bennett sounds boyish, I went to college with a girl named Bennett, but I wouldn't want to name her that anyways. As for Scout, I am not going to use, because a lady just moved in accross the street, and she has a dog named scout. 

I was looking at your suggestions, and came accros Lunete. It reminded me of the Harry potter Luna lovegood. I thought maybe I could use Lunete and call her Luna. 

I have never known how to pronounce Eowyn.

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January 29, 2016 11:48 AM

I like Luna. I'm not a fan of Lunette, but it works.

some other ideas:

Mabel

Sybil

Evalyn (nn Evie)

Avis

Rae

Hester

Charley

Frankie

 

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 12:15 PM

I actually like Rae the best out of these. I've always liked it, but with the spelling Rey, and then star wars came out and I didn't want her to be named after a star wars charactor. I never really thought of changing the spelling to make it different... now I feel sort of dumb =).

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January 30, 2016 2:53 PM

Just a note of caution on Lunette... it means glasses in French... which could be awkward if your daugther ends up needing them!

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January 30, 2016 3:19 PM

Lunete (one t) is a character in Chretien de Troyes's Arthurian romance, Yvain, the Knight of the Lion.  Lunete is the handmaiden of Laudine, the Lady of the Fountain and the wife of Yvain.  Lunete is the name in Chretien's Old French.  In Welsh versions the character is Luned.  Chretien's romance predates the invention of eyeglasses by about a century....

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February 1, 2016 5:11 AM

I stand corrected, Miriam. That's great to know. I've always loved Luned (or Eluned, the form I was familiar with) and had no idea of the history. This gives me amunition to push for it as a middle name.... :D

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January 29, 2016 10:58 AM

Charlotte is literary of course for Charlotte Bronte. How about sisters Emily and Anne (although Emily wouldn't solve popularity issues). Names of heroines from Bronte novels: Jane, Lucy, Agnes, Catherine. Lucy to me seems to combine the vintage sound of Charlotte with some of the sounds of Laney. Or how about just Bronte? It's surnamey, but so tied to the sisters that it reads reasonably feminine.

Austen names would include Marianne and Elinor, which are both very pretty, as well as a host of the usual suspects of Elizabeths and Janes.

Author names might work. Harper Lee's real first name was Nell, so you could use Elinor from the Austen with the nickname of Nell, naming your daughter both for Sense and Sensibility and To Kill a Mockingbird. And The Time Traveller's Wife was written by an Audrey ... which is another A name, true, but very different from Arliss.

What other books do you like? They could definitely be a good source of names.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 11:24 AM

My husband did bring up the name Agnes a couple months ago...Then he said he didn't want two A names. I feel like Jane is too common, and although I like Lucy, our last name starts with an L and has a c in it. 

I know someone with a daughter named Nell at my work, and I don't want her to think that I'm using her name. Audrey would not work becuse of the a, even thugh it is very different from Arliss.

Some other books I like: 

Old Yeller (thats where I got Arliss)

A dogs purpose

Johnny Tremain

Woodswoman

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January 29, 2016 11:54 AM

From Johnny Tremain, there's Priscilla, called Cilla, and Lavinia, called Vinny. (The associations for the latter are less than ideal in the book, but it's a great name nevertheless.) Or there's the author's name, Esther.

I wouldn't name both children from the same book, and I'm not familiar with the other two books you mentioned.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 12:19 PM

I am not a fan of priscilla or cilla, it makes me think of fish. As for vinny, I just don't like it. I agree, i wouldn't want to name her after anyone in Old yeller.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 4:06 PM

here are some other names I like:

Boyd (M)

Rae (F)

Bram (M)

Blue (M) 

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January 29, 2016 4:24 PM

Bram and Blue are actually quite lovely, Rae and Boyd aren't really my style.

How about: Nina, Eliza, Lyra, Daisy, Orla, Nova, Iris, Gloria, Arlo (B), Adele, Hugh, Hugo, Jude (B), Barnaby, Mina, Estelle, Esther, Emilia, Rosa, Maxine, Maxim, Fitz, Louis, Otis, Ambrose (B), Rolland, Jasper, Luna, Caro (F), Ines, Lydia, Tamsin, Alice, Alicia, Luz (F), Felix, Cora, Wilhelmina, Selene/Celine, Elsa and Cosima.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 5:59 PM

I like Arlo and Hugo, but my husband does'nt think there 'children names'. Out of these my Favourites(that I could actually use) are Mina, Tamsin, Caro, and Alice. I like Caro and Alice for middle names, and it happens that my Aunt who died last years name was Mina, and we could honor her with this. 

I also like Harper for a girl.

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January 29, 2016 6:48 PM

Unfortunately children don't stay children forever!lol

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January 29, 2016 8:30 PM

It sounds like you are pretty set on Arliss for the boy? If that's the case I think a more modern name would go well with it for the girl as much as I personally love old fashioned names like Charlotte. Have you considered Reyna (or Rayna or Raina)? I think it sounds more name-like than just Rey and is a little more removed from the Star Wars character. I think looking at books and authors you admire is a good place for inspiration. Another Austen name, Darcy has become quite popular in England.

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By BCR
January 29, 2016 9:43 PM

Yes, we are set on Arliss. I like Rayna (I like this spelling), nn Rey/Ray/Rae. 

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February 2, 2016 12:17 AM

I met a little girl named Reini a while back. She was just adorable, and I thought the name fit her perfectly. Rayna is also very nice. I would be aware that Ray is generally the masculine spelling, whereas Rae is more commonly used for girls. I don't know if it would be positive or negative for you, but rey also means king in Spanish, and reina means queen.

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January 29, 2016 9:34 PM

I think Arliss Jacob is terrific.

 You can feminize Bennett a bit by Spelling it Bennette. Or go with Darcy! No reason literary names have to be after women characters or authors only.

if you like Charlotte and Laney and Lucy but they don't quite work... Charmaine, Charlene, Lacey, Sharla, Delaney, Lusila...