Wesley or Walter

Our sons name is Maxwell Thaddeus Raymond (last name starts with M and is 2 syllable) . I'm in love with Wesley. I'm thinking Wesley Owen Xavier (I'm not totally sold on the middle names)  but have zero ideas for Walter. We did Thaddeus Raymond to honor my grandpa and my fil. Grandpas middle name was Fredrick and fil is Roger. I'm not feeling either of those. Would love some ideas. Not into super popular names or weird spellings. Thank you for all the help!


October 21, 2017 11:50 PM

what about Wilfred Patrick Eric, Derek, Henrick  Rodrick (that could be a good combo of Roger and Frederick) or Alfred instead of Fredrick


I think Maxwell and Wesley go well 


Wesley/Walter Fredrick Roger or Wesley/Walter Roger Fredrick is ok - is there any feminine names you could use or use the same meaning

October 22, 2017 10:55 AM

Hubby shot down all those suggestions. We are going to use my grandparents last name and his mom's maiden name for middle names for our girl name but it doesn't sound right with Wesley or Walter.

By rfb
October 22, 2017 1:26 PM

What is your grandparents' last name and his mom's maiden name, if you don't mind telling?

October 22, 2017 9:16 AM

I must admit that (save a few instances where there's clearly a lack of flow, troublesome initials, repetition of syllables, etc.) I don't understand why some people feel the need to find completely different middle names for each first name option. Especially if you're choosing honour names. What's wrong with Walter Owen Xavier, if those are the middle names you love? 

But yes, since your first son has two honour names, it would be nice to give your second the same. What are the names of your mother/ mother-in-law/ grandmother? There may be male variants that you like and you would get to honour new people, not just use the middle names of people already represented. 

October 22, 2017 11:11 AM

I don't mind using the same middle names with a first name. I just feel Wesley is more "regal" and Walter is more "old school".  I'm not totally sold on Owen Xavier either. My mil is Sandy and my grandma is Joan. Not to sure there is a male version of those names. I don't have to use the middle names of grandpa/fil. I just figured it was a good source last time. 

By EVie
October 22, 2017 11:14 AM

Sandy is a nickname for Alexander, and Joan is a straight-up feminization of John, so those would be pretty straightforward choices for cross-gender honor names.

October 22, 2017 1:20 PM

Sander is a traditional (Scandinavian?) form of Alexander that would be a very clear nod to Sandy. Or, since you like Xavier, maybe Xander?

In addition to John for Joan, you could do something like Jonah (all the letters and the same first syllable) or, further afield, something like Joaquin.

I'm assuming, since you haven't mentioned them, that you don't want to honor your own parents. Maybe there's a version of one of your own names that you would like, though? For example, if your name was Michelle you could use Michael, or if your middle name was Anne or Grace you could use something like Chares or Esmond, which have similar "meanings" etymologically.

By EVie
October 22, 2017 11:12 AM

I totally agree. I don't see anything wrong with Walter Owen Xavier, or even any reason why Wesley Owen Xavier is better.

Are there any maternal family surnames that would work? I generally find the surname-in-the-middle style to sound very elegant, especially if as the second of two middle names. 

October 22, 2017 3:09 PM

So I just found out my husband has a cousin named Wesley. So looks like that name is out. Looks like Walter is in the lead hahaha Now we are thinking Walter Henry for a name.

October 22, 2017 4:21 PM

I prefer Henry as a first name - shame about Wesley

Sandy and Joan

what about Xander or Alexander, John, Jonah, Lysander

these have the same meaning as Joan - Evan, Sean, Zane, Ian, Shane, Shaun, Shawn, John, Jonathan, Ivan, Jack,

these have the same meaning as Sandy - Alasdair, Alexander, Alex, Alastair, Lex, Sasha, Xander, Zander

October 22, 2017 4:46 PM

I'm so bummed about Wesley. My husband said we can still use it because it's a second cousin that he's seen maybe twice in his life but I'm not too keen on that. 

Can't do Alexander, John, Evan or Jack because those are already used within the family.

I really like Walter but I don't have the same feeling for it was I did Wesley. Maybe I'll just mourn that I can use it and I'll love Walter. I mean how cute would it be to have a Maxie and a Wallie!

October 22, 2017 5:04 PM

I wouldnt worry about Wesley then especially since its a 2nd cousin and obviously not close.  I'd use it


with Alexander, John, Evan or Jack,  I was thinking of using them as middle names with a link to Joan/Sandy


if you want Maxie and Wallie - what about Wallace

October 22, 2017 5:14 PM

I may still use Wesley. I need to think on it. Would it be weird if we ran into Wesley at a function (say a funeral) and I introduce our son as Wesley. I think of weird things.


With the 4 other names. I'm not a fan of the people associated with them so I really don't want a reminder of them.


I got a face when I asked about Wallace. Ha 

October 22, 2017 5:20 PM

I'd go with Wesley - from past records eg twice in life,  I wouldnt worry about it.  


Funny about Wallace

October 22, 2017 5:50 PM

I think it will come down to Wesley or Walter. I've been stuck on those 2 names for a while now.


Omg the look was epic! Hahahaha

October 23, 2017 9:15 AM

 I am big on not naming my kids anything my siblings or cousins or husband's cousins named their kids, but to me a middle name has a lot more leeway... especially for a classic name like John. It's not like your Wesley John Alexander Last-name who goes by Wes would be mixed up with his cousin John Thomas Last-name who goes by John.

October 22, 2017 6:53 PM

Jonathan and John/Joan are not the same name. Jonathan is Yonasan and John is Yochanan. 

October 22, 2017 6:13 PM

Any interest in Westley? That's how the name was spelled for the Princess Bride hero, and it could distinguish from the cousin a bit if that connection bothers you. (FWIW, I don't think that's a big deal if Wesley is the name you love most.)

October 22, 2017 7:48 PM

No he shut that one down too. My husband says he doesn't care then gives me a weird look when I bring up a name he doesn't care for. 

November 9, 2017 4:00 AM

Oftentimes fathers only fall in love with a name after the baby is born. It grows on them after a while, in my experience. :)