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I prefer the name Walter probably because of Walt Whitman. I would say also that the 3 "r"s in Edward and Arthur makes it a bit tricky on my tongue though perhaps if I said Arthur and Edward it wouldn't be so noticable This is obviously a pretty trivial matter and if you mostly use their nicknames than it is really a non-issue, but I thought I'd mention it. I also agree that I'd mishear Arthur nn Ari as nn Artie.
On the other side, I do find it pleasing that Edward and Arthur both start with vowels.
Thanks, guys. Every ones thoughts are so helpful. Not sure I'll actually be able to let Grace go but Helen is sure a contender.
No, I meant having the option of being called Helen, Nell, and Hattie. We're definitely not using 2 middle names. I can't even sneak Annemarie or Stellamaris in as a middle without my husband saying it sounds like a lot of name.
Is all 3 just too much? I've been backing away from the "A" initial because it seems sort of much to have 3 names. This is of course coming from someone who (as a Laura) essentially never had any nicknames. (I've even been toying with the idea of naming her just Nell!) And I named my first 3 kids names that essentially don't have nicknames, but 2 of them are fairly annoyed at me about that so I could say "lesson learned".
We do live in a Grace pocket. In 2005 Grace was our girl name for my son, by the time we had a daughter in 2008 I vetoed Grace because I had met so many and Gracies too. I would say the Graces are growing up and I haven't met as many baby Graces lately. Also in the mean time the two little boys we named both had top 20 names so popularity doesn't seem quite the deal-breaker it once was. More than the rankings, Graces use as a middle name seems to have zapped a little of the sparkle out of it. Still I'm hesitating to let go of Grace since I've had such a long time love affair with the name.
So it looks like Grace and Helen nn Nell are the new front-runners. I'm torn as I've favored Grace for years but I really do see how Helen could be more special.
I noticed the same thing this AM. As fun as Avila is, I don't think I'd end up using it. Helen Elizabeth or Helen Veronica are probably more in my comfort zone.
That's cool! Well, we could have name her simply Elizabeth or even done Elizabeth Seton. My parents live near her shrine in Maryland. Since Katharine is named after an American saint I do still think it'd be cool to name a girl after her. But, I think I'm overwhelmed by the sheer number of nickname options that come with Elizabeth. Given that we went from calling Katharine Katie to calling her by her full name, Kat, AND Kitty and she's even been known to write Kate on a paper, I think we might call Elizabeth by a different nickname each time we called for her.
Now I just hope my husband feels the same way!
Years ago my husband and I decided to name a daughter Elizabeth Ann for Elizabeth Ann Seton. The next morning I woke up and said Elizabeth Ann was a no-go!
It's funny because when we named of of our older daughters Katharine we wanted to use an honor name from my husband mother's side our choices were an "A" name or an "R" one. I intentionally avoided the "A" one because I thought KAT initials were too much for a Katharine. Of course now we call her Kat all of the time (not anticipated) and I think KAT would have been a fun choice.
Your response is spot on to what I'm toying with. I was wondering about using Avila as the middle name (for St. Teresa of Avila). I like the flow and the cool thing is that Avila is a different vibe than Helen making for a fun combo. I was also thinking we could call her Hattie for fun (our last name starts with a T). Is that too much? Maybe HAT isn't initials she'd want for life.
Grace Annaleise might be a possibility. Not sure about all 3 names having /s/ sounds.
More kids down the road would be great though I'm not banking on it. I think we find Grace and Lucy a little "s" heavy with our last name so using them both hasn't really made for a pleasing combo. Also I almost don't want to waste Grace in the middle. I actually love Caroline as Lucy's middle name in part because we can't really use Caroline as a first name with a Clare in the house. Other's may be able to do it but I say Claroline every time I even think of using it.
Well, we sort of used it. One of my boys middle name's is Lawrence, but we have a lot of Lawrence's in the family -- I was named for my dad and it coincidently is my husband's and FIL's middle name as well - so the honor to me is diluted. Laura doesn't tend to flow well in the middle so I haven't really considered Grace Laura.
Okay, guys this baby sure looked like a girl at the doctor's yesterday!
Grace and Lucy are back to their perches on the top of our list. Husband is eager to give me Grace so I think what I need is some more middle name ideas. For although I love the first name Grace, I am more enchanted with Lucy Caroline as a combo. Middle name ideas need to be pretty traditional. I had come up with Grace Odette and while my 12 year old thinks it's divine; my husband was not having anything to do with it. I emailed him some other ideas Olivia, Victoria, Veronica, and Felicity (which seems a bit much with Grace), but he has yet to respond -- that silly work thing getting in the way of important name decisions.
Any ideas out there?
That helps! I was sort of sad to not have Grace on our list anymore and I was starting to wonder if I was over-thinking things just a bit.
Happened to mention the names to my mom and I noticed she said Julia with only 2 syllables. The ending was more of a -ya rather than a distinguishable i-a. It wasn't nearly as pretty. I noticed on the Julia page on this site a Julia complained of the same pronunciation. Is this a common issue?
Does Lydia sount quite different to others' ears as well?
Thanks for the input. Yeah the main mix up I forsee with Mark and Mary (and Maria) is that I text my husband a lot throughout the day and it could be confusing. Of course I bet the context would reveal small little girl or pre-teen/teenage boy.
I hear Lucy on small children quite a bit in both my Catholic circle and out and about around town. But Clare/Claire is popular in my daughter's age cohort as well.