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Thanks for the comments. We only plan to have 2 children so i won't have to think about whether i'd want to bestow it a third time. I have no siblings and no cousins on my dad's side so i was the last in the line with my maiden name. However Frederick has been in the family hundreds of years since a Kate Frederick married into the family about 7 generations ago and most males (at least one in each generation) since then have had Frderick as a first or second name. I figure if I can pass it on twice i double the chances of it being continued. Also as it stems from Kate Frederick it does honour a woman in the family, as well as being my dad's name.
I like both names and don't think they are too similar. One or other is likely to be called Toby or Mat at some point which would make it a non issue but even if they both use their full names I don't see an issue.
One vote for Jacob Nathaniel
I agree with previous poster that Karoline and Kamilla are my least favourites because of the K spelling, they are both nice with a C though and all the other combos are lovely.
I would go with Annabelle Ruby (unless your surname begins with S). That way you and your husband each choose a name, you avoid Lily and I like your reasons for choosing Annabelle, plus it is a lovely name. However if Lily is still your favourite then I wouldn't be put off by your cousin using it. Are you close? do you see much of them? May also depend on your surname as to whether Lily or Annabelle goes better with it. You could keep Lily in reserve for a future daughter and then there would be more of an age gap between the two of them.
I would avoid Gavin with your surname but love Luke and Owen. My pick with your surname would be Owen. Luke is my favourite stand alone but we are expecting a boy next week and have decided on a different name that sounds better with our surname.
Personally I would avoid this combination.
I really love a lot of these names too! My faves are Liam, Henry, Luca for boys and Mia and Lucy for girls. There is quite a lot of variety on your list - do you want popular or unique? As we have similar taste, other names I like are Jack, Luke, Ryan, Owen, Kate and Ella. Lots of great names, good luck!
I like Mara with your boys' names. They are all 4 syllables and "go" together. I prefer Mara to Miriam but Miri also goes well with your boys' names. I don't think Silas sounds at all like Isaac and I wouldn't worry about Joe-Bo as I don't think it's that likely as a nickname and if people did call him Joe-Bo there's nothing wrong with it, I can think of plenty of much worse nicknames. Joe-Bo is completely harmless (unless I'm missing something). If you go for Abel I would avoid David as the middle but otherwise any of the first/middle combos work IMO. Have you considered Jonah?
They're not to my personal taste but I do think they make a good sib set! I'm not sure why but they all seem to go together. I think as a first name Ruby would be the odd one out but it would work as a middle for Elissa the best. You could go down the precious stone route for the others too, Macy Jade, Clara Opal or something. Or R names, Clara Rose is pretty. Or keep middles for any family members you want to honour.
Well I got pretty concerned about the Jack@ss thing so my husband suggested Jake as an alternative. I then realised Jack S said with an American accent sounds closer to Jack@ss than it does in our part of the world (New Zealand). So while it's still a consideration it's not a deal breaker for us. Jackass would be pronounced JackArse here, like in the UK. So we have decided against Jake and are back to deciding between Jack and Luke. Thanks for the comments, it is really helpful to get the input!
I'm not sure if I can help because these all sound good to me! just a few comments, if you're open to two middles, Joshua John Levi Morello sounds pretty good. otherwise I like Joshua John. Both give you JJ as a possible nn. Levi Joshua would be my least favourite combination, I feel the flow is better with the other 3 combinations. I think John is a fine middle with either name, particularly with family significance for you.
Thanks for the feedback everyone! As our surname begins with S we don't want to use Lucas or Luca. The hard consonant at the end just works better for us. We prefer Jack, I'm just disappointed it's so popular so we need to decide if that is enough of an issue that we choose Luke instead, or if we (and he) can live with having a top 5 name. Luke isn't exactly unpopular, just a little less popular.
Of Jaina and Jayna I would definitely go for Jayna. I don't know how you pronounce Jaina but to me it looks like it would be pronounced like the name of the female body part where the baby comes out...sorry but I don't think it would make a good name, I prefer Jayna as it's more obvious that it's pronounced jay-na not jy-na. If you want to use Jaina I would keep it for a middle. Erin Marie is pretty and doesn't have a pronunciation issue.
Max if you don't mind sharing an initial with M__. Actually, realised J__ goes by K__ so shares an initial with K__. K__, K__, M__ and Max go well together unless you plan on having more children. Ditto Melvin would give you the 2ks and 2ms set!
Liam is on our short list. We also like Jack, Luke, Ryan and Owen. I think Jack and Liam make a good pair and while Jack is top 2-3 in some parts of the world I think you are in the US where it ranks quite a bit lower. Jack Noah, Jack Mason and Jack Lucas are all great.
We have similar taste as we are expecting a boy and our short list is Jack, Luke, Liam, Ryan and Owen. I think any of these go well with your other boys' names, in my opinion Luke doesn't go quite so well with Jack though but Ryan is a great choice, Liam and Owen also go with Jack and Andrew/Drew.
Thanks for the comments - Luke is back on the list! We are also adding Ryan. The funny thing is, the person who made the comment about biblical names shares his name with quite a famous reindeer so I don't think he is in a good position to be commenting!
I like the suggestion of Amelia (Mia). Does Madelyn go by Maddy/Maddie or always Madelyn? Sophia is a lovely name and goes well with the other sibling names. Did anything particular inspire the middle names Jacob and Rose? Unless you have a family or other name you particularly want for a middle I would choose the first name first. Do you like Ava? It has a similar feel to Mia. Also Elsa, Emma, Jessica, Lauren.
I like these names. Also how about William and Jackson (or Jack).