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I wonder if -ia is just below these names in terms of rising swiftly, given the popularity of names like Olivia, Ameilia, etc. I tried searching on Expert Name Voyager, but the results include the -aia endings you mention in the blog post.
Hi Alfed. Your questions are quite broad, and in fact touch on many of the issues that underlie the majority of the conversations on these forums. It would be my suggestion that, instead of using responses to your questions as your research data, you instead read through the forums here, and analyze them for "naturally-occurring" articulations of hte value we place on names and the expectations (and limits to those expectations) for our children that our naming pracitices involve. What you're getting at is the naming philosophy, the philosophy of names and naming, that animates those of us who visit or frequent the site. Keep in mind as you read that some of us are dropping in to gain feedback on names we're considering for soon-to-be-born children, whereas others are just interested in names and are engaging in these discussion despite not currently naming children.
I think part of the reason I keep paying attention is that it *is* funny, in a terrifying way. I liked the New Yorker article from yesterday about the way in which humor and internet memes are sort of manifesting in the field of politics in this election. Funny/horrifying.
I think "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named" might well be my vote for Name of the Year. Although I suppose Trump is also a strong contender, what with its verbal qualities and the whole Drumpf situation. I certainly prefer to leave him nameless, however.
Apologies for bringing even more blech into your consciousnesses today. I really am trying to cut down on my ingestion of T-related bile.
Oh my goodness, Ocho and Otto are such brilliant ideas! I hope the orignal poster comes back to see this list, because it's rocking. I almost wish I had a little Octavio to nickname now...
What a great name! Are you pronouncing it Oct-ahv-io or Oct-tay-vio? That is, European a or American a?
I'm imagining it the European way, and suggest:
or, of course,
I think both are fine. Actually I slightly prefer Aksel, as it gets the name further away from the noun axle, with which I associate it, not to mention from the name Axl Rose, with which I also find myself associating it.
Sorry, Brock is all Turner for me, and therefore screams Rapist and White Male Privilege.
Less problematically, Crispin is all Glover for me, and therefore says (rather than screeming), Creepy! Artsy! Problematic or empowering work with Downs Kids!
I'm with you on the rest of the suggestions, though. Russell would be an obvious (too obvious?) addition.
Bonham is a striking last-name-as-first. It sounds male to me, although the association with Helena B. Carter skews it female. I'm also intriguied by Aitor. I'm unfamiliar with it.
I took a picture of a swim class roster the other day, tadpoles to sharks. Not too much of interest, although there was one Eathynn, which I was a bit flummoxed by. I also noted a preponderance of Lily-esque names: Lily, Lillian, Leela, Lilia (which I'm seeing everywhere now, and don't think I've noticed before), Leila/Layla, Lula, Lola, and its cousins. Each is cute, but I'm finding them a bit interchangable.
Well said, PJ! My sentiments exactly. (count me among those done naming, but never done thinking about naming!)
I think there was a joke on Mad Man where Don Draper had a secretary named Dawn, with confusion ensuing about whom people were referring to. Interesting that they're pronounced differently in the South.
Today at the playground: Lennox, Sawyer and Devlin. I think Lennox might be male, albeit with pink nail polish and shoes. The others I didnt see. (Gotta say I think Devlin is pretty awful.)
I'm unfamiliar with the naim Odell and not certain how to pronounce it. (Edited to add: As a testiment to my level of sleep deprivation, I'd like to point out that I misspelled the word "name"!!!)
It strikes me that Mina could be seen as an honor name for Guglielmina (which I'm also unfamiliar with and unsure how to pronounce). Alternately, you could honor your husband's mother by choosing two names that also start with G and A. Geneva Allegra
It would be nice to see some female scientists' names on this list. I mean, female babies can be given these names, of course, as you mention in several of these cases. But I'd rather see boys and girls both being named after a more diverse set of scientists.
Oh Lattie! Post partum depression is so common, and so difficult. Those of us who frequent naming sites have often seen naming regret and depression go hand-in-hand.
If you don't mind a bit of friendly advice, I'd say that your absolute top priority is to take care of yourself. Don't even worry one bit about her name. Get to a therapist and/or psychiatrist who can help you feel better. The reason you don't have to worry about her name is that you have a bunch of great options (like leaving it Lanayah and calling her Lane or Nayah) and once you're feeling better about the world, yourself, everything, it will be much easier to look dispassionately at the pros and cons of changing her name. My guess is that when you're feeling less overwhelmed, you'll realize that you chose an absolutely lovely name that is fabulous and ideal for a beautiful little girl of any ethnicity.
Big hugs from someone who completely understands what you're going through!
Miriam, it's funny you should say that, because my daughter's name is... well, let's just say it starts with an M, ends in an M, and is one with which you're intimately familiar. (I don't know why I'm so hesitant to publicize her name on here. I guess partially for the sake of anonymity, and also, if I'm honest with myself, because I worry that your prominence on this naming site is going to increase its popularity among prospective namers, and I don't want to contribute to that, even though I chose it in part because its popularity has been steady and relativley high but not too high for quite a while.)
Interestingly, Karyn, I was considering Cordelia for DD. I was musing about it with a friend of mine, and she said that it soudned like an Af. Am. name! (I think she meant this as an argument against the name because we aren't Af. Am., and not because she's racist. At least I hope so!). That's just a sample of 1, though, and she's no doubt an outlier.
I don't want to derail LaToya's whole thread, but I find the Jewish connotations of given names interesting given that, as your case illustrates, a lot of Jewish kids are given Hebrew names for religious contexts and non-Biblical names for other social contexts. Given this, and the fact that Old Testament names are all the rage among the American cowboy and romantic wanna-bes, why do people, including religious Jews, often assume that my little Old Testament firsname girlie comes from a super religious family?
I completely agree with Lucubratix! Very well put.
I wish we lived in a world where our amazing daughters (and sons) wouldn't encounter racism, classism, etc..
I also understand the conflicting impulses of wanting to just say "eff them" about anyone who would judge our kids by their ethnic-sounding names (and/or by their actual ethnicities) and at the same time wanting to choose a name that gives our kids the best possible chance in the imperfect world we live in. We want a name that is versatile enough to get our children in the door past any conscious or (more likely) unconscious racism, so that when they show up at an interview as an obviously or ambivously ethnic-looking person, the interviewer will be confronted with the strength of their qualifications.
Did that make any sense? Maybe I should have just left it at: Lucubratix said it well.
I'm just sort of commissertating because I chose a somewhat lesser-used Old Testament girl's name, which I figured in contemporary American naming culture would be pretty neutral in terms of association, and have been surprised to find that several people have thought it was indiciative of my daughter's ethnicity and/or of our religiousity, and that a few people have had what I would describe as crypto anti-Semitic reactions to it. (eff them! eff racism, eff anti-Semitism, eff misogyny while we're at it!)
When wracking my brain to try to sort out what ethnicity OP was referring to, the LaToya, LaShondra etc. names occurred to me. Is this what Lanayah is connoting for people, OP? Are you sure? And are you sure that's a problem? I think the name is much more versatile than you seem to think, but maybe you're getting reactions from people that we wouldn't anticipate.