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I'm of the opinion that naming is a joint decision, and if he's vetoed Ivey, then you need to move on and look elsewhere. I have lots of meaningful family names that my husband has vetoed, which totally drove me crazy. I'm assuming you've already calmly laid out your reasons for why you like the name to him, and he still hasn't budged? You've compromised on the first name, and that's what you need to do on the middle name, too.
Would he be opposed to two middle names such as Vivan Ruth Ivey? What about other family names?
Thank you, everyone!
And just to be clear, as I realized I didn't say in my original post, but we don't know if they are boys or girls and we're trying not to find out, but I really needed help with boy names. :)
Hi Chimu! I didn't expect anyone to remember me because my sign-in name is so non-descript and it had been so long since I was on here. I will have to check out the expectant namer threads -- with the new formatting spreading posts everywhere, I wasn't sure where to post anymore.
Thanks for all of your feedback. I know a couple of adult Wynns that are very rugged guys so I guess that has colored my perception of the name. It's good to get feedback from others on their perceptions, and I can definitely see how it would read feminine. I do like Lucian/Lucien. However, I like Oren better than Odin for some reason.
We're in a very Irish area of the country, so I do know several Irish Kieran adults, as well. Will have to ponder that some more.
This is one that we like. What do you think about Enzo as a stand-alone name versus a nickname for Lorenzo?
This was on our longer list, but, like Laszlo, we have zero Italian heritage and didn't know if Lorenzo sounded too Italian, and I didn't know if Enzo was enough on its own.
I had looked up the Hungarian pronunciation before, but to be honest, our only real association with the name is from Casablanca, so that's the pronunciation we use. Thanks for your comments -- I do have some discomfort using a name not from my heritage that I have no real association or connection to.
We had considered Winslow or Winston with the nickname Wynn, but Wendall is one that I hadn't considered. I'll have to check in with my husband about that one - good suggestion!
Do you think Dash and Wynn/Win would be to sporty (i.e. win the 50 yard dash)?
Yes, I think that's a lovely choice with Gabriella.
I think any of those three would be fine, although I agree with other posters that Rosie Mazur is the most matchy. However, it would not be enough to dissuade me from going with Rosie if that were your favorite.
Winston (but probably moreso Winslow) were both on our much longer list. The other names are actually names of family members, kids of close friends, friends, or are a little too popular for me. Thank you for the suggestions, though!
Thanks so much for your feedback, Karyn. Have you had any luck in narrowing down your choices?
Thank you for your detailed feedback, EVie. It's nice to have such a positive reaction to Dashiell and Tulliver, as I have just been feeling so blah about all of our options. Helps to see things in a new light. :)
To answer your questions -- yes, I was concerned that Luther is overwhelmingly associated with Martin Luther, as well as Martin Luther King. Both are positive associations for me (or at least, they certainly aren't negative), but strong associations nonetheless. The meaningful Luther ancestor was not German. However, my husband's last name is VERY German.
I like Anaya, and think that works the best of your three options in the US. I think Spruha would be difficult here. As another suggestion, what about Aaliyah?
Although I don't mind alliteration in names, my personal opinion is that Waverly Winston is too much because it all kind of mooshes together. I think alliteration works better with some strong consonants to break up the sounds. I think Maude Waverly Winston might be a nice compromise, though, if you really like Waverly.
Along the same stylistic lines as Falcon, my local hospital boards recently listed a baby boy named Warrior.
Alr - congratulations! You've picked a delightful name.
hyz - I think we have a lot in common in terms of our naming styles and sentiments. :)
Chimu - re: Linden - even on Namipedia on this site, Linden is only listed as a girl name, and doesn't have a boy name entry. Thanks for sharing your impressions of the name. It's always nice to get feedback!
Anna - I was expressing a personal preference, not a general concern.
p.s. daisy_kay, AmyElizabeth, and zoerhenne - thanks for your insights!
I want to clarify that I'm not troubled by using a "softer" (for lack of a better word) boy name because I'm worried my son will be perceived as weak -- in fact, as I tried to explain in my earlier post, I'm really attracted to that style of male names precisely because I value sensitivity (among other traits) and want any future son to not feel constrained to follow uber-masculine stereotypes.
So where does my hesitation in using some of those names come from? Well, it seems that deep down, I'm not quite ready to commit to complete androgyny. :)
Anna - on further reflection, I think the issue for me is not that a name (like Linden) will be perceived as a "girl name" in 20 years when my son would be an adult with similarly-named peers; for me, it's the classification of the name right now.
In fact, to share a little back story on the name Linden, I first liked the name for a little girl after reading it on a girl name list somewhere. When I mentioned it to my husband, he thought it was a better name for a boy. I pondered on this for a minute and moved it to my boy name list, agreeing that it could easily be a nice boy name. I really like the name and the tree association, but what gives me pause is that on baby name websites, it is usually listed as a girl name. So when a teacher (or future employer) reads this name on a list, would they assume Linden was female?
I think we are each attracted to a certain style of names, but what I find interesting is a deeper examination of why that style appeals to each us individually.
Personally, I like female names that are tailored, non-frilly, but still have (what I perceive to be) a crisp, beautiful sound. Maren/Marin, Linnea, Adele, Delayne, Iris . . .
Interestingly, from the time I was a little girl, I have refused to wear anything with pink, lace, I still don't really feel comfortable in dresses, but have never been a complete tom-boy. I think these are personal, style choices that reflect how I perceive myself, but are also values that influence what I see my future daughter looking/acting like (so Annabella and Frilliana are just so not going to work for me on multiple levels).
Now, for boys, the traditional (Matthew, Michael, John) and the uber-masculine (Rocky, Rex) just are not appealing to me. But why? I think some of it is a reaction to not wanting my future little boy to be uber-masculine (and if I'm being honest, some of it is a push-back against my church upbringing.) I value sensitivity, intelligence, independence, and I find myself drawn to boys' names that do have some androgynous cross-over potential. Milo, Arlo, Julian, Rowan, Linden, Elliott . . .
I want to be careful to say that it's not that I don't think a John can be intelligent and sensitive -- quite the opposite -- but just that my personal perception of a style of a name signifies certain values to me. If I name my son John, I'd still expect him to be the same as if I had named him Linden, but if I conjure up an imaginary "Rex" in my mind, he looks different than a "Linden."
But for all of my feminist tendencies, I do admit that I fall into the camp that worries about certain of my favorite boy names "going to the girl side." I often post on here my queries - what about Marlow? Arden? Linden? too feminine? Will everyone assume this is a female name in 20 years?
I recognize the troubling feminist contradictions this raises, but I'm still not to the point of being able to shake the worry (and this admittedly bothers me).
So I'm curious about your style preferences and if you think they accord with the values and traits you'd like your children to have (and if this makes it easier or harder to understand why some people are drawn to particular styles of names). Or is it all about the sound of the name? Or pop culture references?