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I don't think Natalie is dated at all.
I do think of Natalie Wood immediately and to a lesser extent Natalie Portman. Both beautiful and wonderful actresses. They are generations apart and the name works/worked for both of them.
Your earlier post reminded me of Wood because she was born Natalia, called Natasha, changed to Natalie for her career. She also named a daughter Natasha.
I would not be surprised to meet a Natalie of any age. It rolls off the tongue beautifully.
BTW - I do like Natalia but my first instinct is na tal ya, but could easily be corrected.
I never knew the first Alan. But I did know Sue. I'm guessing she named their son (he also had a second mn that I think was her maiden).
That woman was hard-core and probably had a rational of "My son will be named after his father and be worthy of it because the first one is not worthy."
I just think that Brett thought it was cool not to name a son Alan; but female Brett was a different animal is weird. Also, ALL the "goes by middle name business kills me."
I hate Captcha!
What a confusing household!
Here's a modern version. My partner goes by mn Brett. Here is his immediate genealogical history:
I thought of trying to mask, but that's a pain. Not using last names.
Father: Alan Dye
Mother: Kathryn Agnes
Sister: Stephanie Alana
Him: Alan Brett
Alan and Kathryn divorce. Alan marries Sue.
Half-brother: Alan Adrien (goes by Alan)
Brett has a son born to an Israeli woman named Noga who raised Nitzan in Israel.
Brett marries Marna Michelle.
Son: Walker "Vaughan"
Daughter: Kathryn "Katie" Ann (after both grandmothers)
Daughter: Brett Michelle - tired of Little Brett and masculine (to her) Brett, uses Michelle now. She answers to fn mn and fn or mn interchangeably.
Nitzan and wife Tedi (Theodora) have Brett's grandchildren, Victor and Veronique!
Brett is sooo proud he didn't name a child Alan or Alana :)
Working? Fingers crossed!
I agree that the names you like are really popular and over-used. This, of course, does not disqualify them if those are the names you love. I do have to say that Jaden and all the other Aiden names get on my nerves. And I have never liked the Jaxson spelling - again, this is MY taste, so go with what you really want.
I'm thinking that it might be nice to not use any of the dominent vowel sounds in your other childrens' names - the "e" in Bella, the "Y/I" in Wyatt, the "A" in Drake.
I played around with your kids names plus Jaxson and Jaden to see what matched. Here are some I found appealing and maybe you might as well. Sorry for any repeats - other posters have given good suggestions.
Easton, Quincy, Owen, Tucker, Connor, Roman, Alden, Vaughan, Maxim, Julien, Gavin, Jordon. Also, tried and true Justin and Jason (but Jason has the "A" like Drake) - names my generation gave to EVERY SINGLE MALE CHILD ha ha. But you probably won't find so many these days.
I like Meredith but prefer Theodora. Also agree with others that the two M names and nns could get mixed up.
Theodora is beautiful. I have a step daughter-in-law (is that a thing!) who goes by Tedi.
Also a Meredith who uses Meri most or all of the time, I am positive will get "Mary" almost always.
I DO like both names though!
This will age me, but Layla is always the Eric Clapton song to me. And all Laylas I've met have been named for that including an in-law of mine who is in her mid-thirties.
I agree about names SEEMING young because of only knowing young people with that name. Ex: Misty was fairly common with my age group (in my area anyway). That seemed like a young name when I was younger. But now I know one who is mid-fifties with the name and doesn't seem weird at all.
I do prefer Layla. Leila is fine, but I can see how it might get mispronounced or confused with Leia.
Somewhere in my memory it seems you and I had a similar conversation about owl, towel, tall a long time ago.
I do think it's the difference in what we expect to hear.
I will say that the many times I've heard Talia Shire's name I never heard "tall" in it.
Canadian v Texan ears, lol?
I do think that Lauren works as being a great compromise and is very cool that she would get a little bit of both parents.
Also, as a feminist, I like the mother's last name being used.
But I have to say Lauren St. Lawrence is kinda cool.
It is pretty straightforward in spelling and also memorable. I don't think anyone would forget it and probably love to say it over and over.
Cool and beneficial...I sorta like it.
Out of your first names, I like Lillian and Cecilia. I guess I like the "lia' sounds. In this case they are pronounced differently, thus not too matchy for sisters.
From your mn list, I like Martha, Hallie, Luna, and Annalise.
I won't try to match them to the first names because a) middle name flow doesn't matter as much as first and last and b) it makes my brain hurt. :)
I really like Talia. My first and only association is Talia Shire, a wonderful actress and good association. She is known for the Rocky and Godfather movies.
I don't understand the pronunciation problem because I've only heard it as something like Towl-ya - I was going to write Tal-ya, but that seems more like the word tall. I hear it as "rhymes with owl."
I briefly knew a Cleo in Jr. High. She was nice and I remember thinking it was neat name I had never heard before. Back then I thought it was short for Cleopatra. :)
Felicity is nice, but not my style because I agree with your earlier comment about it being frilly. But I would be delighted to meet one, which I never have.
Louisa is an long-time favorite of mine. And aside from my bias, I don't think Louisa sounds at all close to Anneliese. Actually, I think Adelaide sounds a bit too similar.
Louisa also has the potential Isa nn (Lisa without the L) if that is something that pleases you or her. I know one who's full name is Isabeau.
I have the same feeling about Emeline that I do about Felicity - I like Felicity slightly better.
Thumbs up for Naomi and Lila!
Just my two cents. Any of these names are winners, of course.
I think any of the names could come from most any culture. Yes, Elena would be my first guess if asked "which is Latina."
Truly, they are all fine names.
Like another poster, Callie from Grey's Anatomy is my pop culture reference. And seriously, do we have to "dumb down" and assume no one knows how to pronounce/spell Calliope? And can't we assume they can LEARN?
Calliope is my favorite.
I do like Lydia. Liddie seems more of a pet name to me - shortened by one syllable/letter.
I know an Isa (full name Isabeau). She just says Lisa without the L).
All I can think of is: "Attention Kmart shoppers, there's *a sale* on women's panties on aisle one." :)
I would consider it a popular biblical name (though I'm not sure if parents use it for that reason or because they like the sound).
The reason I know that I've encountered several Jeremiahs is because I always break out into the song when meeting one - of course getting an eye-roll every time!
I think most have been white, but because I only remember one of them, I could have been introduced to a Black Jeremiah or other ethnicity.
The one I remember is a clerk at a store I frequent. He is a 20-something white guy. If I had to guess, he's middle-class and not particularly religious.
In fact, I don't believe I've ever met anyone with the other names you mention. I'm from Texas - regional?
All these names are great, including Ruby.
But my vote is for Calliope Celeste. I think this combo, in this order is fantastic. And you can use any of the nicknames mentioned, including CeCe - cute, but I really like Poppy!
Kendra reminded me of a woman I know named T€dra, after her grandfather Ted (nn for Edgar).
She coincidentally has a brother named Jeff. Both fiftyish.
People who hang out here will be familiar with the first two Tom names.
Jumping in to say that I've known several women named Bobbie. One well enough to know that Bobbie wasn't short for a longer name.
I don't think it was confusing or that anyone thought her name was weird or ought to have a longer form - or not a "real" name.
"Me and Bobby McGee" was written by Kris Kristofferson about a girl.
If you like a longer name well enough and want to give her more options, fine. But I wouldn't use one just because.
BTW - names like this aren't my style, but as you point out, not everyone likes the same names.
I really like your daughters' names.
First, I don't think it is totally needed, but an "E" middle would be nice. No, I don't think it has to be three syllables. Simple, classic Elizabeth could work, especially with the very short Rue.
I do like Rue the best out of your picks. They are all fine on their own, but Mina and Thea do seem a bit close to me. And I do think Lenore sounds borrowed from Eleanor.
Like others, Ruth seems like a good option. Bet you already thought of and like Rue better; I like both.
Ha! Naming Moon Pies Aiden names - I missed that one.
I'm sorry you missed out on Moon Pies. They're made in Chattanooga, TN, so maybe never made it up north.
I was never too much of a fan. I would say because I don't like processed junk, but really it's because I'm not a fan of marshmallows tbh.
Sure am a new follower, though!