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I know an Isa (full name Isabeau). She just says Lisa without the L).
All I can think of is: "Attention Kmart shoppers, there's *a sale* on women's panties on aisle one." :)
I would consider it a popular biblical name (though I'm not sure if parents use it for that reason or because they like the sound).
The reason I know that I've encountered several Jeremiahs is because I always break out into the song when meeting one - of course getting an eye-roll every time!
I think most have been white, but because I only remember one of them, I could have been introduced to a Black Jeremiah or other ethnicity.
The one I remember is a clerk at a store I frequent. He is a 20-something white guy. If I had to guess, he's middle-class and not particularly religious.
In fact, I don't believe I've ever met anyone with the other names you mention. I'm from Texas - regional?
All these names are great, including Ruby.
But my vote is for Calliope Celeste. I think this combo, in this order is fantastic. And you can use any of the nicknames mentioned, including CeCe - cute, but I really like Poppy!
Kendra reminded me of a woman I know named T€dra, after her grandfather Ted (nn for Edgar).
She coincidentally has a brother named Jeff. Both fiftyish.
People who hang out here will be familiar with the first two Tom names.
Jumping in to say that I've known several women named Bobbie. One well enough to know that Bobbie wasn't short for a longer name.
I don't think it was confusing or that anyone thought her name was weird or ought to have a longer form - or not a "real" name.
"Me and Bobby McGee" was written by Kris Kristofferson about a girl.
If you like a longer name well enough and want to give her more options, fine. But I wouldn't use one just because.
BTW - names like this aren't my style, but as you point out, not everyone likes the same names.
I really like your daughters' names.
First, I don't think it is totally needed, but an "E" middle would be nice. No, I don't think it has to be three syllables. Simple, classic Elizabeth could work, especially with the very short Rue.
I do like Rue the best out of your picks. They are all fine on their own, but Mina and Thea do seem a bit close to me. And I do think Lenore sounds borrowed from Eleanor.
Like others, Ruth seems like a good option. Bet you already thought of and like Rue better; I like both.
Ha! Naming Moon Pies Aiden names - I missed that one.
I'm sorry you missed out on Moon Pies. They're made in Chattanooga, TN, so maybe never made it up north.
I was never too much of a fan. I would say because I don't like processed junk, but really it's because I'm not a fan of marshmallows tbh.
Sure am a new follower, though!
Miriam, my maternal grandmother was called Mimi by her grandchildren and everyone else who didn't call her Mrs.____.
I've never thought that name could be mispronounced!
Also, she didn't have any of the Mary given names and I think the nn came before grandchildren, so I have no idea where the origin came from.
Personally, I never would have confused Mamie with Mammy. To me, Mamie is a name or nn while Mammy is derogatory for black slave - kitchen, house, nanny (notice the closeness of those two).
It is always interesting on this site to talk about how words sound and are spoken.
Intellectually, I get Mary Christmas v Merry Christmas - but I still say Mary. I'm still waiting to understand the difference between Mary and marry. Also Jul ee ah and Jul ya are very different, as is Mommy and Mummy someone brought up.
I will never have kids and probably would never had called one Mamie; but if I had, I'd be horrified to learn someone thought her name was Mammy.
I like Offred. It fits with the crazy political year while acknowledging something that affects women of all stripes.
If you want to do a boy/girl noty, my vote is Chuck and Nancy!
I agree with this while adding that any fn with a v in it, along with mn Jean could have Vinnie as a nn. Ex: Olivia Jean.
I also agree with TheBookThief that you should only do this understanding that nn Vinnie might be lost in the future.
Make the change if you can find a name you really love and could live with possible other nns later on.
I don't really have a spelling preference; and if it is to be a nn, no preference at all.
P.S. Even though Vinnie is not my style, I think there's nothing wrong with saying "Vinnie is her full fn."
Not everyone likes every name. At least you didn't name her James or Mark et al.
Better than Lippy?
Oh good, I hope that works out for you. I'm always happy to hear that parents come to an agreement both are happy with.
Lindy is great and I also like Roz.
If she were my new little friend or family member, I'd show up with a huge stuffed pony or a large bouquet of small ones. :)
I can see where they are similar, especially written. But if I imagine meeting two girls with those names, I don't think it would cross my mind.
There's been conversations here about the pronunciation of Laura, Lorrie and Lara type names. But Clara's "a" vowel verses Gloria's "o" seems very clear to me. And even though they both end in "a", I think they sound quite different said aloud.
Hope that helps.
You could even it up by either using Forrest, the one you really love, or maybe a name or varient from your side of the family you both love.
Honestly, I'd use Forrest unless your husband has a huge objection.
I actually used to think that's what my mother had in mind (she died when I was three), but turns out she just wanted to shorten Leigh.
I started answering to almost any L name long ago.
My first name is Leif without the f, pronounced like Lee. Apparently the "gh" was just too many letters for my mother.
I can tell you I've had every spelling and pronunciation imaginable.
In writing, I'm frequently a lie, in speech, very often a lay! :)
I think Matilda is a fine name. And if you or if she will be into nicknames, there's some options, Tillie (my fave), Mattie. I could even see Mat.
Almost any name could be a middle. Do you use your surname or your spouse's/partner's? You could use your last name or your first, middle, or a variation.
Or just something that may be special to you: literary, special place, etcetera.
I am late to this conversation, but my life experiences make me want to chime in.
First, I am no librarian, but was once in charge of data bases for a non-profit watch-dog group of 60,000 members along with state and federal law-makers.
Except for the occasional Hispanic rule talked about, the hyphenated and middle names were very clear to me.
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison was Senator Hutchison, not Senator Baily Hutchison.
I can't come up with a hyphenated name right now, but a Rep. Smith-Jones was definitely an S.
When I was married, I flirted with variations, but not very much, because changing my last name seemed almost as absurd as changing my first name.
My partner's sister died a few years ago and he was the sole survivor of her estate. Sadly, their half-brother had died years earlier. We obtained his death certificate since she died intestate.
My partner never knew that his brother had a second middle (mother's maiden). I think this was the way to go. Her name was in there, and even though in this case she used her husband's name, a woman using her own last name would be able to make sure that schools et al weren't confused about parentage. And further generations studying genealogy would have that second middle for information.
I have talked about this before, but just because I went by fn & mn growing up and people use fn or fn mn combo - I answer to either. The term double-barrel is semi new to me.
Mary Ann Smith (not my real name, but close) is fn, mn, ln.
Mary-Ann or MaryAnn Jane Smith is double barrel fn, mn, ln to me.
If you call me Mary, you are using my first name. If you call me Mary Ann, you are simply using my first and middle; like if you say Mary Smith, you are using first and last.
I don't know why this irritates me, but it does.
Anyway, I think adding a second middle is a good solution that I would use. Hearing HNG talk about the problems hyphenated names has made me a believer.
Mary Ann Smith Jones is filed under J and Smith is an obvious family name second middle, especially if her mother's name is Jane Smith.
I think you should go with the "C" version if that's the name you use since that's your preference. I don't really think of it as older generation, just not in use as much as "K."
I think it's nice you like the classics. Maybe Catherine with a "C" is your "out there, unusual name."
Your version oh Nevaeh, haha.