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I noticed this on an episode of Outdaughtered. They were helping a family that had two kids: Justus and Gattlin (not sure I'm spelling that right). I thought it was interesting that one kid was named after Justice and the other kid sounded like a gun!
I agree with the nominations for Stormy.
It seems like it's the kind of name that both repels and intrigues. I mean, it's a cool name in itself, especially in an era with climate change on everyone's minds when the weather seems more intense than ever in recent memory.
So, I can see parents being intrigued to revisit this name and attempt to ignore the Trump scandal, in favor of a name that seems cozy and cute since it ends in an -e sound but also seems somewhat powerful since storms can be literal or figurative. And that makes it really neat as a name choice in the early decades of the 21st century. It's sweet and a little naughty but when you shorten it to Storm, it seems powerful. (Or like a character out of The Bold and the Beautiful, but I digress...)
This could be my next cat's name since I'm done having kids!
I used to read Regency romance novels and they often referred to a woman whose nickname was Silence, largely because she was a big gossip! I thought that was a great name.
Like calling a big guy Tiny. I think Whisper, Shy, etc. would be interesting real baby name choices. Do names that are an actual quality really bring out that quality in a person or are they more likely to rebel? So, if you name your daughter Rebel is she more likely to embrace it or to act against it? And is it the verb form or the noun because that totally changes the pronunciation...
Shy? Could that have been because of Ch- or Sh- names that got shortened? Like how people name their kids Ty? Is Shy a shortened form of Cheyenne or Shylock and they just use part of it? Or was it really chosen because of the meaning? Not that a list of names tells us intent...
(Not that anyone would name their kid Shylock, necessarily.)
I knew a boy named Jabe back in school. I always loved the sound of the name, maybe a shortened form of Jabez, though his name wasn't short for anything.
I think Jabe should be more popular. It has a great sound and sounds old and new all at once! I think it fits in with this list of Abe and Jeb...
Asma? Is that pronounced like Asthma or like Ozma? Because, I'd prefer Ozma, personally, and its attendant spelling...
My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante does a good job of showing how nicknames were used in Italy in the 1940s. I had to keep referring to the opening pages to see who was who!
My Italian grandmother had lots of nicknames for my family members and an Italian-American friend of mine also had lots of nicknames in his family.
Partly because so many people in our families were named for someone who was still living or who married someone with a similar name.
So, my friend and I had an Aunt Sugar and an Aunt Cookie between us and we thought they should have met. I grew up thinking that WAS my aunt's name, and so did he!
I know a lot of people who go by their middle names today...
Have you considered that many of the names you like that he thinks are ok could maybe swing his way?
For instance, he likes Charlie. Would he consider Stephanie if he could call her Stevie? It has that cute factor that Charlie has but she gets the long-form name you like.
Maybe he would consider Layla? It has the Kayla-Mikayla sound you both like. Kind of meets in the middle. Or Milah or Lilah/Lyla.
If you look, I think there are commonalities, as has been previously pointed out. In fact, your names both seem to feel like the same time-period to me. Nothing different except Aaliyah and Zara.
You could also try something unusual, a mashup of names you like. Like Maddigan for Madison and Megan.
I watch a lot of old episodes of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Could Harvey's resurgence be due to parents of a certain age coming across that name and not really making the association but thinking, "Hey, Harvey. That sounds like a nice guy. Someone you could really trust..."?
And it sounds close to popular Henry or Harry, but just a bit off the beaten path...
Maybe more classic than Harley.... Hmm. Harvey has all sorts of hidden appeal!
How did I miss Hamish McHamish of St Andrews? A cat who followed this year's name trend, only a decade before its time... Was this perhaps the precursor to Boaty McBoatface?
I think the whole McBoatface also reminds me of reducing doctors on Grey's Anatomy to Dr McDreamy vs Dr. McSteamy. That started a long time ago, but McNameface certainly has staying power!
iel nna, it was even in Hillary's logo! She used the H with the arrow... Maybe it was to distinguish herself from her husband during the campaign? Still, good points. Even when Sarah Palin was running for VP, they didn't call her just "Sarah."
I think the name Bill can't enjoy a resurgence anytime soon. Not after a year of Bill Cosby in the news and more recently revisiting Bill Clinton's extramarital activities. It's just lost so much of its charm... It was already on a path to disuse. I feel like a new parent would really just say, hmm before using it right now...
Josephine and the Cats (I'm sure they'd update the name somehow!)
Katherine and Allison (Nope, Kate and Allie works just fine, as does Ally McBeal, probably because parents started to see Allie/Ally as a name all on it's own. I cannot tell you the number of Alexandria's I have met who go by Ali or some variant spelling of the nickname...)
Mireille! That was the name of the female character in the French videos we watched in French class over 20 years ago. I loved that name. :)
As an aside, there is a cute Olivia book/episode where she meets another Olivia in class for the first time and decides she will be called Pam instead but realizes she just doesn't feel like a Pam. And being called Olivia 1 and Olivia 2 is just demeaning. It's called Olivia Meets Olivia and it is pretty cute. Especially because her dad says, "Well, lots of people are called Dad, and it doesn't bother me!"
My daughter's name was number 4 on the baby name charts the year she was born. I expected to meet kids with her name, but I managed not to until she got to school. Wherein she promptly met 4 other girls in her grade alone with the same name and now is Name + Last initial for the REST of her school life. Had not thought that would happen since my own name is fairly rare in the grand scheme of things, so I had little experience with it myself. I wanted her to have a name where I could always find something with her name on it, but I guess it didn't occur to me what that availability would mean in her daily life.
So it's not the same pain (I set myself up for this without due thought unlike you who thought more about classic vs trendy, though technically my daughter's name is classic, it also became trendy), but I have also met children with the same two more unusual names I had thought of but rejected, so maybe the only comfort is that no name is unique but every child who bears that name is undoubtedly unique. The name that is the same actually helps my daughter identify with other people who also have the name. Better that human encounter of sameness than if she was a random completely unique number. Well, that's what I tell myself when I feel bad I didn't select something more unusual. :)
Miriam, we must live in very different naming circles! I've only met one Rosary in my whole life! :) Also, I think maybe only one Miriam. So, unique for TuttiFrutti is clearly going to be different for me. Maybe they need to say a prayer to agree on a name. :) Is there a patron saint of names? 'Cause that would be helpful...
Doh. I totally forgot that Fergie named her daughters Beatrice and Eugenie. That might be a problem, given your first name! :)
On the other hand, Eugenia doesn't have that issue.
And, Phoebe and Bea is a cute pairing. My daughter and I share the same number of syllables and letter sounds but our names are completely different. Still, I like that we have the same primary sounds in our first and middle names. It is a nice connection even though it is not obvious to most people...
So, keep Phoebe on your list. You might also want to have a choice of names so when you are in delivery the one that "feels" right is the one you go with. Some kids from the get-go look nothing like the name you'd planned.
Also, maybe Zenovia, since Zenobia was a Roman saint, around the same time as Sebastian. Zenevia is a Polish name, I think, with a possible origin from Zenobia.
I read over your two lists. I liked Flora and Rosa, as two classic but not overused names that sound fresh. Though perhaps not in all circles. Phoebe is fun, but I think those who loved Chloe may turn to Phoebe and Daphne as similar but less popular names and they might grow with popularity. Not a big issue, surely, especially if it is one you can both finally agree on!
Could I suggest either Eugenie or Eugenia? Both are saints names, very different pronuncuations, but they have that You sound of Eulalia and that classic look that he might prefer. And, Eugenia was another Roman martyr, a fitting sibling for Sebastian.
Other early saints to consider were Perpetua and Felicity.
I think that Perpetua is an awesome and little used name but classic and can be seen in Bridget Jones Diary to see some modern usage. Pippa or Pippi could be a cute nickname.
Ok, so it's not modern, but it is different! Felicity is more modern and very pretty.
Not that you need more names.
Of your combined list, I think that Flora and Rosa are common ground. And, Rosa Miriam is a lovely and honors Mary in a unique way.
As an aside, I knew a girl named Rosaryanne. Unique and combines two saints, if you will: Mary and her mother, Anne... If you do a search online for Rosary Anne, or Rosary as a baby name, you will see that this is a unique name but not unheard of.
Also, I too chose a popular biblical, but not saint's name, for my child's first and a saint name for the middle since it was important to me that she have a saint from the get-go. So, I understand your husband's desire to have that for his child and your desire to have a more modern feel. :)
Good luck with this!
I'm wondering if Daisy will increase in popularity. Or Ridley. Ridley was a character on the last season of Austin and Ally. And with Daisy Ridley's great performance, people may look to honor the Star Wars universe by pulling from the "stars" themselves and not just the characters.
I'd also be inclined to take another look at Leia. And maybe even BeBe. Because that is one cute droid. :)
I think Kylo is too unlikable at this point. It remains to be seen if there is any redemption for his character in the long run. Anakin, it must be remembered, was redeemed in the end of Jedi which made his name more acceptable.