Mum to Jo1y0n Max, Rup3rt James, Th0masina Adele, and Wi1fr3d George.
I think it’s the element of restlessness that comes with gadding the verb, that has kept me from thinking of it in more joyful terms. Maybe also gadflies add to the negative connotation for me — they bite!
But Karyn is right that it’s also a name, which i encounter not infrequently as its my job to read news alert about the Monaco royals to a visually impaired relative. (Charlotte Casiraghi had a child with a comedian named Gad.) I don’t think of it with the name but more with initials where I go more into word-mode, somehow.
I actually think you're probably right with Ava! It hadn't occurred to me as a plausible German name, because I thought of it as an Eve variant, but it has convergent origins. It is a name that I'd absolutely be unsurprised to find five of in a school, especially five older kids, without involving any particularly striking immigrant community patterns.
Well played, Marelle!
I like the idea of sibling name choices, when they are reasonable and lovely, being put on the table for legitimate consideration. Especially in the middle name slot, it seems like a nice way to make for a choice that has a better story -- especially if the alternatives are more "this was a name we really liked". I wouldn't skip over honoring your grandma who was your childhood hero in order to use a sibling suggested name, but I am not opposed to the concept when the name is a name the parents also like, or even a NAME name rather than pudding or dump truck.
Here, I don't think I can endorse FAD or GAD as initials... I'm not that picky because I have a TAG (and it's an occasional nickname) but both fads and gadding about have vaguely negative connotations that I don't love. They're not unusable by any means -- more like the JAG and RAG I ruled out than the HAG or FAG which were immediately out of consideration.
Tinder-the-app was launched in 2012, but didn't really become available in most geographic areas until 2013 (and it was named "startup of the year" for 2013.) Kindergarteners now are born right around that time.
My guess is that it's a total accident (Tinder, like Kindle, is one of those positive words that have a very appealing namey sound, which is why I think they got used by companies), or alternatively that the parents heard of Tinder-the-app in its very early stages and were struck by the appealing naminess... and the app was at the time obscure enough that they didn't think that it would be a problem to use the name. Kind of like how brands like Dijonnaise show up in the SSA data at the very onset of the product launch, but taper off once the product becomes more established.
Crying with laughter, guys. This is amazing, all around. Great job naming that baby effectively!
And I probably would have weighed in on "maybe the once-and-future-King thing is a tiny bit awkward in this family context, eh?" -- but I'm glad they didn't listen because Arthur is a terrific name.
What a fun challenge! My guess would be Clara, maybe Ada or Greta. I agree that the popularity is what’s making this harder, because I do not know much about the popularity about names in whatever particular region of Australia, in the neighborhood and class and ancestry breakdown... but those are the names I could see cropping up multiple times in a school where I live!
Good ideas! I also want to add the trim pocket sized Ivo as a suggestion.
The only one of those examples that would not feel strongly religious to me at first blush is Jonathan! I agree that many non- and less-religious people do use names in this category, though, so I would not necessarily assume a strong religious leaning required for a family to use Luke... but I know that I have enough of an internal response that I wouldn’t feel comfortable using them myself.
I do think it’s a subjective line. I find variants like Josephine to be non-objectionable and used a similar feminine form of a male Biblical name on my daughter, even as I wouldn’t have found Joseph usable. Moving a step or two away is enough for me, though.
I might suggest Leo, Hugo or Hugh, Eliot, Milo or Miles.
Cute dog! Does he answer to a name already? If not, does he respond better to some of these than others? In the abstract, like Zef and Oz and Rafe, best, in part because those have long elaborate formal forms that I'd love to apply to a pet... like Zephyr.
I agree that the lack of female pirate names here is super disappointing, as the male merman names. It's a big contribution to the problem of naming boys after power and girls after luxe possessions.
Anyway, some female pirate names are fairly standard names that don't strongly shout "pirate" in isolation, but Anne Bonnie as a double name sure would send a signal. Ditto Teuta Illyria.
However, there are also more interesting new-to-me names like Ingela and Jacquotte and Sayyida and Alfhild or Alvid or even Sela). Missed opportunity for sure.
As for merman names, I know a little Triton, and that seems like a massive oversight on this list. Enki also seems very usable.
I have a Jo1yon who sometimes gets called Jolly and from there it was a clear path to a nickname of Jolly Rodger, as in the pirate flag. (Also Jolly-o, and from there Yo-yo.) Nicknames will find a way, and given our location I’m sure we’ll encounter more pirate nicknames. (Island living, school sports teams are the pirates.)
Given that you have some strong themes - British Isles/French choices and surnames as given names, it might be neat to sort of tie up the loose ends which is the unmatched Hebrew Noah and the Shakespearean invention Olivia.
Here are my classifications of the names you've used:
Celtic surname-based: Teagan
Scottish surnam—based: Lennox
Profession surname-as-given: Piper, Harper
French: Madeleine Belle, Noelle, Charlotte
French surname-as-given: Monet
So my suggestions for Shakesperean inventions: Imogen, Miranda, Jessica, maybe Othello or Florizel on the male side? You might consider some other literary inventions, like Cedric, Vanessa, Wendy or Pamela, too.
I might look at other old Testament/Hebrew names to see what fits your tastes.
I might look at other surnames as given names, too, particularly ones that might bridge some other style or geography categories.
I also want to suggest Montserrat for you!
While I too grow very wary of what seems like a constant onslaught of patently fake families expecting twins and triplets or celebrity impersonations on this board, it's important to remember that over half of all conceptions don't lead to a take-home baby. Miscarriages are devastatingly common and early losses are being discovered more given the advent of more sensitive pregnancy tests. Name enthusiasts often want to jump to name discussion right as the pee dries on the dipstick (or is it just me?), and I think as we're aware that we shouldn't share with all of our friends and family lest we have to un-announce, we might be less guarded in online forums. I know only a few posters who have shared the sad news that the pregnancy we had been discussing names for didn't work out, but I'm sure it statistically happens much more often, and people just don't feel up to making a big announcement about it.
So not saying that it doesn't cause a little eyeroll when people are discussing pregnancies in a row, especially when there are twins in the mix, but there might be a sad and real reason for it, too, so I've been loath to call it out lest I stomp on someone's miscarriage grief.
I say Irina pretty similarly to Arina, and absent any compelling reason for chosing the A-spelling I'd pick the more well known Irina, which reminds less of hockey and other team sports.
This same tendency is definitely present in the Maine side of my in-laws... my daughter is Thomaseener, which I did not quite expect! The random surprise r entrance something I also encountered cropping up periodically in occasional words growing up in Connecticut, too, although northern New England seems more dramatic.
Is the podcast perchance fivethirtyeight, because if so, I've noticed the same... it especially provides a delightful contrast to my royal podcast and the British Harry that I get regularly there.
(I was definitely surprised when watching Sense and Sensibility in high school and discovered that the Elena character was actually Elinor!)
Suzannembrown is listing Thomasina twice, and I thus third it as a suggestion. It's a name that's served my daughter well; many nickname choices to allow reinvention, familiar but surprisingly rare, and having a similarly pleasingly hefty, funky-clunky feel to Henrietta.
It's also worth noting that both names are also united in being feminine forms of names that are far more frequently used in their male version. That formula actually tends to nail my taste in female names generally, and I think it might be worth considering for you as well, because the very commonplace nature of Henry and Thomas really makes their feminine counterparts somewhat familiar and accessible, even as Henrietta and Thomasina are still (shockingly) underutilized. I might especially go looking for feminine forms or more standard male classics that don't have the -et (or -etta) ending. In addition to pulling Wilhelmina, Philippa, Josephine from the Suzannembrown's list (and also my own short lists for when we were expecting), I might also think about Jamesina or Davina.
And if you're looking for sleeker names that share the unfrilly, slightly outmoded names that Harriet has for me, can I suggest Mavis?
Eleanor has really taken off in my area -- I think it felt a decade or two ago like Harriet feels now. Now it's more of a sibling name for Henry than for Henrietta, if that makes sense.
I am joining you in wishing for a gigglesnort button.
All I can say is that it’s remarkable that you and Hailey have accounts set up with such similar email addresses which introduced me to a totally new surname I’d never heard before!
And for those who don't remember the details of our last brush with celebrity impersonators on this forum, you can enjoy a trip down memory lane here:
Oh, you and the ACE family should get together because they *also* like the Ah-lay-ah pronunciation!
You can see how they pronounce it at the 23 minute mark when they announce, bless the commenters who gave the exact time so I didn't have to sit through the whole thing. They even refer to the announcement using the same term of endearment as you, "Our princess's name is... Ah-lay-ah! So her name is Ah-lay-ah Marie!" And then they say it a bunch of times lovingly and slowly so you can really hear that it's ah-LAY-ah and not ah-EYE-ah.
I now know more about this sector of the internet than I ever hoped... thanks for the catch, Brittcrivera.
Because the wiki pages on the new baby haven't been updated yet, I can't figure out if the birthdates are the same too, at which point the remarkableness just ratchets up even more... but thanks, cm2530.