First child born and named. Second on the way.
I have never known anyone named Leonie, I have just seen it on name boards and lists, so I always just assumed it was pronounced lee-o-nee, like Leona but with an -ee ending. I am glad I was wrong- lay-o-nee is definitely a more pleasing sound.
I found out more info about the whole situation and it sounds like it worked out that way more because the tech I had was not very familiar with OB orders and consequently did not feel competent to say one way or the other so she used the loophole of the lack of specific order to get out of having to do it. I did complain to the head of Radiology about the situation and in an effort to make it right they had their best OB tech (who was very sweet) do another ultrasound to get that and the other pics that actually were on the order but the incompetent tech didn't do at no extra charge (good move since we could contest the charges since they did not complete the order). Sadly, despite a valiant effort by the 2nd tech that included everything from eating and walking around to going to the bathroom and jiggling and prodding my belly, nothing could get this baby to uncross his/her legs so baby is still going to be a surprise. Sigh.
I am so glad to hear someone say it doesn't sound like I am trying to hard- I really do just want a name that I love and will maybe be inspiring to my kiddo. I have not bounced it off of many people IRL but my mom has said she really likes it. My dad said it feels a little awkward but he will get used to it.
I have thought about that stuff with gender before, but in my experience it seems that when people deal with gender dysphoria etc they want to choose a whole new name to rather than keep a gender neutral name or a version of their given name that correlates with the gender they are identifying as, so I figure I might as well go with what I like for now and if they need to change it then it may end up being part of their process.
Thank you for the suggestions. I keep looking at lists and suggestions, but nothing seems to be as exciting to me as Caspian, I just wasn't really planning on also going with such a kind of bold decision.
I am partial to Leona because it is my sister's middle name and the name she has chosen to go by for the last 4ish years. It must be reasonably well received or she would go by her first name which is nice and classic but not off-trend. She does sometimes go by the nickname Leo, which might be a turn-off for you. Probably because of her name I have a strong dislike of Leonie since it sounds like an infantilization of Leona to me but I am probably in the minority on that.
Due to the family connections you mention though, I think Leonora may be the best choice! I like the way it sounds, and as a nickname person myself I love the fact that it has multiple nickname options! I have heard it pronounced two different ways- would you plan on pronouncing it with 2 syllables (len-ora), or 4 (lee-ah-nor-ah)?
Casper and Jasper are not my style (I will admit to being strangley and unpredictably picky).
I do like Roland, and actually I really like Felipe- is it too.... Belle's horse?
The issue with Lochlan is that it is so Irish and Georgett3 is so french that it feels very disjointed to me- kinda hard to explain. I like eclectic, but I worry about going too far eclectic, if that makes sense? I dunno. I really do appreciate the suggestions.
I live in the US (in the South), but it is not normal for the area- my midwife knew I planned on learning the gender and even asked me to let her know what it was since her experience was that they did not put it on the chart they just announced verbally to the parents. I had her send the order to a hospital she has never worked with before because I get better benefits there due to DH's job. So if she expected that it had to be on the order she would have added it.
I like Cass, and I had not thought of Chip, but I think I like that too! Caspian did debut on the SSA list in the most recent edition so it should be becoming more familiar, but it still feels rather bold for me. Sometimes bold is good though.
I think Angeline fits in nicely with the current popularity of names like Madeline. Angelina is also nice, though it comes with a childrens character (Angelina Ballerina), which may not be very prominent anymore and is not necessarily a bad thing. I prefer the Veronica spelling.
Haha- C@spian P@ul is my favorite too. For right now I should probably hold off on vetoing Hiram, in the hopes that he will continue considering C@spian.Not sure why DH is liking Hiram Sp3ncer so much right now- but I was a little impressed he had been thinking about it at all- it usually feels like a chore making him talk about names. He probably doesn't realize Hiram might not be as well-recieved in the general population as it is for him culturally. We actually know of a little Hiram, but I am not sure how they spelled it. We almost agreed on Ephriam before we realized how much sound repetition it had with our last name- it was rather a mouthful altogether!
Just to throw one more possibility out- I have really liked the name V@lor. It may be the most "out-there" option but I just love the meaning and the possibility of a great virtue-name for a boy, any thoughts on that?
I would also like to point out that an advantage of Lind over Linda in your case is that it is one syllable. Ivy Linda [+ 2-Syllable last name] gets monotonous in its beat with all the names having the same number of syllables.
Just a thought.
I don't think honor names have to be identical to the name of the honoree- and Lind does not seem at all like a stretch from Linda. Ivy Lind flows nicely and that is definitely the spelling I would use- especially to keep it close to Linda and also for aesthetics.
I certainly do not think it is too weird, especially with it having real meaning.
Good luck convincing hubby!
Congratulations! I think Roland is an excellent choice!
I have only ever thought of Callen as masculine.
To be honest, what comes to mind when I hear the name is the character from NCIS Los Angeles who is always refered to as Callen (it is his last name, but if you are unfamiliar with the story, he pretty much has to be called by his last name since he does not know his first name- only his first initial, for several seasons).
Its not a bad association- as the main protagonist, he stops criminals and saves people (often with shooting and explosions, but thats what makes it exciting). But yes, very masculine.
I keep hearing old-lady names are the style right now! Adelaide seems very popular, Despicable Me used Agnes and Edith on cute little girls...
I actually worked at school about half a dozen years ago that had a Judith. She must have been about 7th grade at the time. The name was very memorable to me not only because of how unusual it was but because of the contrast to her identical twin sister's name- Jasmine. Yes, Jasmine and Judith. I don't remember hearing either of them go by any nicknames. These kids had all known each other since kindergarten so any real discussion of the names had long since past. She was not Jewish, as I recall she was hispanic.
I personally am a fan of nicknames, so my instinct would be to go for it after brainstorming a few nn options, though that may be tricky for Judith. Judy also has a vintage feel, Jude would be a bold nickname choice for a girl, Juju would feel awfully juvenile after toddlerhood... but the creative and knowledgeable regulars here may have some better suggestions.
The only other traditional Ju- names I could think of outside your exclusions are Juniper and June.
For Z middles for Judah- Zander, Zavier, Zeke
Alessia- very much not my style, so I have a hard time giving any feedback.
But as far as Eliza and Elizabeth- I think Eliza stands on its own no problem, and can easily be taken seriously (it has actually always struck me as a very serious name), though I have always preferred Elizabeth/Elisabeth.
If you went with the longer version you would have the option of Eliza as a nickname. If it was standing on its own, I prefer Eliza to Elisa for intuitive pronouciation (I can think of multiple ways to pronounce that).
George is definitely classic, but with David Lee in the middle the whole name does sound a little... dissapointing perhaps? Especially with sister Eloise. But with a taste in vintage/retro there should be plenty of options with flair.
Searches for vintage and retro names for boys included-
Calvin (one of my personal faves)
Linus (my husband thinks I'm crazy for liking this one, but I do)
Ernest (I am fond of this one too)
Just some ideas for inspiration :)
I agree with the previous poster- both seem like a solid choice and both go well with Rosalie in my opinion.
Rosalie and Mariella sound good together. Emberlyn seems like an odd choice for Rosalie's sister- its quite a different style- like the pp mentioned it is a very modern name.
I like it. It flows well. I can see Arlo aging well- being totally adorable on a baby and distinguished on an adult. I also like James in the middle slot with its classic style. I think its a solid choice.
Thank you all for your suggestions and encouragement!
Embarassingly, I found out tonight that I misunderstood DH about Geneva- he actually is not fond of it (which actually means that it would not have been the pick if it had come up last time). Its good closure anyway. Onward and upward in the name search! Hopefully I will be able to get a backup option in addition to Louisa. (Not to mention we may not need a girls name at all).