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February 16, 2018 01:05 PM
In Response to Sunset for baby girl?

I think the immediate associations are quite nice.  Sunsets, nature, etc., and I want it to be another more modern nature name (like Sky, or Sage) but I think it also has some problematic associations that prevent more people from using it.  In addition to the sunset/ending type associations other have mentioned, I also thought of the Sunset Strip.  Actually, I thought of that before the ending association.  For me, the Sunset Strip brings to mind images kind of a Guns N Roses type sex/drugs/party association.  

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February 14, 2018 10:16 AM

Krum is OK, but keep in mind it does sound like the English word "crumb."  Viktor Krum is also a character from Harry Potter, so I would not be surprised if people assume it's an HP inspired name.  This may or may not be an issue for you.  

I like Kai and have actually met a couple.  I think it strikes a nice balance between familiar but not overly common.  FWIW, it also means ocean in Hawaiian.  The Kai's I have met all seemed to be going for the ocean association.  I would actually consider this a plus.  Names with different meanings in multiple languages often tend to travel well.

I like Kasia quite a bit.  Too bad dad doesn't care for it.  Any chance you could convince him on the full version with Kasia as a nickname?

I also like Raya and do not think it sounds particularly Indian.  To be honest, it strikes me as another name that would travel well.  It fits with modern American-English "raindrop" names, sounds like Rain, which is also used as a name, sounds like Ray, etc.  

I did a quick scroll of Bulgarian feminine names on behind the name dot com & saw quite a few that are variants of names most English speakers will be familiar with.  Also saw a few (like Raya) that seem like they would blend in with modern naming trends.  Any interest in Elena, Emilia, Iva, Lala, or Zara?

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February 13, 2018 11:40 AM
In Response to Baby and brand

The name nedibles posted is a good guess. I also wondered about lyr!ca. 

Have you looked online to see if there are any TV ads for the brand?  I think that would significantly boost the chances of the general public making the connection.  I know about Lyr!ca & nedibles' guess from TV ads.  If there aren't any ads, it seems like it might be less of an issue.

This also seems like a good name for the Starbucks challenge.  Use the name as your own in places where it doesn't matter and see what kind of reaction you get.  If you get a ton of comments and/or weird looks, it might be a clue that the name is too strongly associated with the brith control brand.

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February 13, 2018 11:36 AM
In Response to Sonnet?

Interesting, your current list is only one name off from another poster's (Hazel, Lily & Violet vs. Hazel, Violet & Autumn).  I see that Lily is also on a longer list for the other poster.  You may want to take a look at that thread if you are looking for more inspiration.

I agree that "Son" being right there at the front of Sonnet bothers me.  Sunny doesn't help much, because I *hear* Sonny since I know the "son" is in Sonnet.  Otherwise, I think it does have a pretty sound & meaning, though it does seem quite a bit more adventurous than the other names on your list, or the brother names.

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February 13, 2018 11:31 AM

I would avoid it if I could, and in fact ruled out one girl's name because of a celebrity connection. 

However, I would consider it under certain circumstances.  If it was a more obscure reference that only people "in the know" would get-like the name of a scientist known only within a specific field or something-I don't think I'd be too bothered. 

I would also see exceptions for a family name.  If Benjamin is a family name on your side, but your husband's surname (which you want to use) is Franklin, I think it'd be OK.  You'll get comments, but they should be easy enough to laugh off with a "yeah, it was actually a family name."  Though in all honesty, I would probably first try to look for a variant name I could use instead.

I would also be more tempted to use a name with a positive or neutral association.  Benjamin Franklin would be more OK than Sam Adams, because Ben Franklin isn't currently the brand name of a nationwide beer. 

I would also be more flexible about names with historic connections in general vs. names that are more current or pop-culture related.  I'd be more likely to use Samuel Adams (even with the beer) than I would something like Paul McCartney.   I think Paul McCartney would lead people to assume Super-Fan in a way that Samuel Adams or Ben Franklin probably won't.

 

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February 13, 2018 11:22 AM

I had a few thoughts as I was reading through the thread.  First, I wouldn't count Iris out, especially if you make a point to play up the non-eye related associations.  For example, you could fully embrace the nature/botanical connection and simply laugh off any eye-related comments you get as just a happy coincidence.

I would also encourage you to rethink your rule about not using any name that's been used by anyone in your circle.  It'll open you up to new possibilities.  Personally, I would avoid names already in use in the family or my very close friends, but it's unlikely that anyone in your daughter's life will know or care if her name is similar (or the same) as the name of your former co-workers daughter.  

Have you considered compromising by using a longer version he likes with a shorter nickname you like (or vice versa).  For example, Vera could be a nickname for Veronica & Veronica seems like it would fit quite well with the names on his list.

I'll also suggest looking for names that sound like more popular "boring" names.  For example, if he likes Laura or Lauren, perhaps you could convince him on Laurel.  May & Maeve also came to mind.

I do notice a bit of a nature/color theme in your names.  Perhaps Ruby, Scarlet, Magnolia (Maggie), Poppy, Flora, Ivy, Pearl, Olive,  Rose, Daphne.  Some other, more random ideas include Felicity, Cecily, Vivian, Verity, Audrey, Sabrina, Fiona, Gemma.

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February 8, 2018 09:15 AM

Eugene (Q) was on Days, but I'm not certain if there was a STNG production/writing/etc. connection between those shows.  I do know that Capt. Janeway (aka Red from Orange is the New Black) was also on a soap back in the 80s.  It wasn't Days, but I think she & John de Lancie had worked together on another soap back in the day.  I have a vague memory of an interview with her where she mentions she auditioned for the part of Capt. Janeway in part because John de Lancie spoke highly of his experience working with Star Trek.

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February 8, 2018 09:11 AM

and now I think I'll have to start watching My Little Pony.  I had no idea they had so much stuff snuck in for the adults!

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February 8, 2018 09:06 AM
In Response to Sibling Name Help!!

I agree, I also didn't notice the pattern.

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February 7, 2018 04:44 PM
In Response to Baby name ... Snow?

When my son was in Kindergarten, he came home talking about 2 girls in his class named Snow and Sweet.  I totally didn't believe him.  Turned out, their names were actually Nieves & Dulce.  The girls had translated their names for a group of classmates who had asked about them.  

I see no reason why Snow couldn't be a name.  If you want something more "established" Nieves is an option, but it may seem odd if she doesn't have any Spanish heritage/language skills.  You could also pair it with a more established middle name, just in case she wants something less unusual to fall back on.  Snow could also be used in the middle position, if you decide you just can't pull the trigger on it as a first name.

Do you plan on more children later?  If so, you may want to consider if Snow is part of a larger style of name you like, or if it is an outlier.  If I came across a family with children named something like Snow, Ocean & Blaze, I might guess the family was a bit on the hippy/granola/nature-loving side, but I wouldn't think too much more about it.  A sibset consisting of Snow, Marie & Thomas would cause me to do a double take.  In that case, Snow is the odd man out. 

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February 7, 2018 04:23 PM

I remember that storyline!  I started watching again for a while after I had surgery in college, and I think that's when that storyling was on.  I noticed DOL always increased the storylines for their teen/young adult characters in the summer, but they usually resolved the major plot points around the time school started back up.  Not a bad marketing strategy.

DOL is still on, but I think Another World is off the air.  My mom was still watching as of a few years ago.  Victor was still on at the time, and they had brought back a lot of the 80s people.  Bo, Hope, Marlena, Roman and the 2nd actor who played Roman (though he wasn't Roman anymore) were all back on at some point.  I tried watching with her once, but was completely confused and didn't recognize most of the characters.

 

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February 7, 2018 02:08 PM

I loved the whole crazy storyline with Calliope and Eugene.  FWIW, I once had a cat named Eugene, in honor of the character.  I also remember feeling excited when he showed up as Q, and had a whole fan-fic storyline in my head where time traverlor Cass evolved into Q.  LOL  For me, DOL came on just a few minutes after I got home, so it was the perfect escape after a day at Jr High/High school.

Useless trivia, but the actor who played (maybe still plays?) Victor Kiriakis is John Anniston, father of Jennifer.  I kept waiting for John to have a guest appearance on Friends back when Joey was supposed to have a role as a doctor on DOL, but it never happened.

The show after it was Another World, and I also loved the Cass/Felicia Gallant storyline.  It stuck out to me because it was one of the few where a man & woman were protrayed as best friends with no romantic involvement.  I think you may be right that Felicia's actual name was Fanny something.  The full name had a very "country" sound.

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February 7, 2018 10:18 AM

I suggest some flexibility on the repeated initial thing.  I think it would be reasonable to change the rule to no repeated initials among the siblings.  How often do you need to initial parent's things to keep them seperate from the children's things?  I know it's not something that has been a problem for me.  So that'd free up D & M.  Or potentially D & A if you start initialling your daughter's things by her nickname.

Nicknames are another way for some flexibilty on the initials.  Alexander could be A, or X (Xander) or even Z (Zander) depending on the nickname.  

Other ways to get to Leo include Leon, Leonidas, Leonard, Leopold.  Nico could be just Nico.  You could also use a nickname based on first/middle, so something like Niall Cormac could lead to Nico.  

I also think you could be overthinking the whole Elliot/Elliott thing.  Having to specify "Elliot with one T" is really not a big deal.  It's no worse than Catherine/Katherine or Milly/Millie.  If you like the name, pick the spelling that looks most "right" to you & go with it.  FWIW, my name is the least common spelling of an already unusual name-and it really is not a big deal.  I just accept that I have to spell it out when it matters & when it doesn't matter, I don't worry about it.  I also have to spell my last name Every Time & it's a super generic word name with a primary accepted spellng.  It is what it is.  

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February 7, 2018 10:03 AM

Liam can also be a nickname for William, so perhaps William called Liam? Or given name William with mom & dad using pet names Liam & Winn?

Winston could also be a way to get to Winn, and perhaps you could sell your husband by pointing out Win is a natural "short version" and could also be used primarly at home.

Holden seems too similar to Hadley for me.  Hadley is a bit unizex too, so I think I'd hesitate to know if Holden & Hadley might be sisters.

Instead of Finn, have you considered Phineaus or Finnegan or one of the other "long" versions?  Maybe you'd like it better as a nickname?

Benedict instead of Bennett?

I like the previous suggestion of Emmett, it seems like a nice mashup of Everett & Bennett.  Or perhaps Everest?  Other suggestions I think would work with the sibling set include Flynn, Donovan, Cormac, Owen, Elliot, Henry, Julian, Simon.

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February 7, 2018 09:56 AM
In Response to Sister for Evelyn

Corinne and Evelyn are a bit too rhyming for my taste, but I don't think they'd be awful together.  I actually prefer this combo to Jocelyn & Evelyn, as J & E share the same final syllable.  If you like Corinne, but think it's too close, perhaps Cora, Coraline, or Cordelia would be of interest?  Corey would be an intuitive nickname for any of these.

For me, Adeline would depend on how you are saying it.  Ad-ah-lyn has the same problem as Jocelyn (even though they are spelled differently).  However, I don't think Ad-ah-line is problematic at all.  If you aren't sure, or prefer the lyn version of this name, perhaps just Ada?  Or a related name like Adele or Adelaide?

Some of this may also depend on how often you use the nicknames.  If the plan is to use the given name only for formal occassions, but exclusively call them Ada & Evie or somesuch, it may not matter as much to you if the given names are very similar.

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February 7, 2018 09:49 AM

I'm one of the people who mentioned Calliope as a ditzy 80's soap character.  But my Calliope was on Days of our Lives, not Guiding Light.  A quick Google shows me that the character was recurring, and last appeared on DOL back in 2010.  I stopped watching after high school, so I've no idea what the character was like in later appearences.

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February 5, 2018 09:21 AM

I think Georgia Geraldine is fine. The most important thing is it sounds like it's the option you & your husband are both most excited about.

eta:  I love that Georgia is a cross gender namesake, I have a soft spot for them. 

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February 5, 2018 09:16 AM

I would not assume an Elena or Beatriz is Spanish speaking.  However, I wouldn't be surprised if either of them did.  

I don't think Calliope is a "what in the world" kind of name, but I do think most people will find it more surprising than your other choices.  As for your friend, I must admit I assume she is being a little intentionally rude.  The name clearly should not sound like "collide."   If people do struggle with it, you can always use Penelope as a guide. 

Elena & Beatriz both strike me as pretty classic names.  I'd say they both travel well in that I wouldn't be overly surprised to meet someone of just about any ethnicity with one of them.  I don't think I'd go out of my way to nickname Elena, but I wouldn't be opposed if one happened organically.  I would probably shorten Beatriz to Bea, even if only occassionally.

Calliope strikes me as much more hippy/free-spirited.  My primary association is the same soap opera character nedibles mentioned, so people without that association might not feel that way.  I think Callie would be a cute nickname, and might help if she finds she doesn't like occassionaly offering guidance/explaining her name.  It could also be helpful if she ends up preferring something a bit less free-spirited/unusual.

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I agree, your names aren't really Mark & Michelle, at least not to your children.  To them, you are mom & dad.  If you don't make a big deal out of it, it won't be a big deal.  

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February 1, 2018 12:42 PM

I'll offer a couple of suggestions. 

First, look for names that are familiar and were more popular in recent generations, but have fallen/are falling out of favor.  They won't be common amongst your son's peers but will hopefully be familiar enough to your husband that they won't seem weird.  Brian, Derek, Corbin, Simon and Clayton are all rankes 200 or lower & meet your criteria for 2 syllables or more.

Look for longer names that are more common, but offer nicknames that are in the popularity rank you want, something like Everett and Rhett (Rhett is 220).  Or look for longer names that are less common, but offer more popular nicknames.  Anderson (#303) and Andy.

If you haven't already, start trying to expose your husband to names currently being used.  Point out more unusual names when you encounter them on the playground or in TV/movies.  If you have access, read class lists to him.  Go through birth announcements together.  It's possible he just needs more exposure to current names trends in order to understand that unusual doesn't mean weird the way it used to.  If you have access to a middle schooler, ask them for their opinion on some of your favorites.  If they aren't weird to a middle school age kid, maybe your husband will start to realize "weird" isn't what it used to be.  

Negotiate some of your criteria in order to find a compromise.  Consider looking at names ranked around 100 instead of having 200 be the cut off.  The #100 name right now is Bentley.  It was given to 4,026 babies in 2016.  That's not a lot of babies nationwide.  Be open to names less than 2 syllables, it will open you up to a lot more names, which means more chance of compromise.  Consider other options-would your husband be Ok with a more unusual first name if he knew your son had a Very Common first name to fall back on?  Or maybe a Very Common first name with a more unsual middle?  You could even agree he calls baby the Very Common name, you call him the Very Unusual name & he gets to pick his preference when he starts school.  Be willing to think outside the box.

Last, I'll suggest your scour your family trees and look at people related to your husband's interests/career/etc.  You might find he'll feel better about a less common name if he has a positive association.