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November 23, 2017 08:20 AM

Yes, I totally agree with all of this.

November 19, 2017 06:07 PM

I agree.  Hendric seems like a more direct nod, but Hendrix seems less likely to cause confusion/need explanation.

November 17, 2017 08:25 AM
In Response to Help With Quads!

As far as Brooklyn, Jayda, Lucy & Temperance, you are a bit all over the map style-wise!  I'd group Brooklyn & Jayda togehter as trendy names with more modern usage.  Lucy & Temperance seem more vintage, with Temperance leaning more fusty/not quite ready for a comeback.  I wonder if one parent leans more towards the Brooklyn/Jayda style of names, and the other leans more in the Lucy/Temperance direction?  If so, having 2 of each style seems like a nice compromise.

Can you give us any more information about what you like about each name?  Temperance seems to have a pop culture association, what about the others?  Are there certain sounds you seem more drawn to?  The more information you can give us, the better our suggestions will be.  With nothing else to go on, I'd suggest names like Bailey, Lyric, Harper, McKenzie/Kenzie, Peyton, Madison to match the more modern style of Brooklyn & Jayda.  Names of a more vintage style include Lillian, Hazel, Charlotte, Felicity, Ruby, June, and Molly.

I prefer for middle names to have some kind of meaning or significance to the family.  Are there any family members you want to honor?  What about places or nature names that hold special meaning?  Other sources of inspiration include literary or historical figures you admire, names with religious meaning, or virtue names associated with your values. 

November 17, 2017 08:10 AM

Yes, I think Sol (like Saul) would be the go-to nickname for Solomon.  I know of one family who considered it with the nickname Solo (after Han Solo).  They ultimately went with something else, but I can see that as another reasonable option.

November 16, 2017 01:49 PM

Oh, I like both Drumpf and Spicey.  But even better might be covfefe. 

November 16, 2017 01:44 PM

I like the idea of Casper, but it is still a little ghosty to me.  However, I got over my grouch associations when I met my first IRL Oscar, so I suspect most people would adjust to Casper.  I wonder if something like Caspian or agreeing to use the nickname Cas would work better for you?

Bruno is OK, but it really seems a bit too similar to Bram for me.  I think I'd likely get tongue tied with the two fairly often.

Wilder is another I find nice in theory, but perhaps too much/masculine sounding.  Like, do you really want a child to be wild?  It strikes me as kind of an anti-virtue name, though I recognize it has very nature-y or Little House associations for a lot of other people.

Hayward is kind of meh to me.  I think I'd like Hayes or something similar a bit better.  Rita Hayworth also comes to mind when I hear it.

I really quite like Ivan.  I'd say it is my favorite from your list.  I also quite like Leland and Winston.

Apollo is just too much for me.  It's also a dog name in my mind.  Not sure why, as I can't recall ever meeting a dog called Apollo.

Don't care for Jiro or Emmanuel at all, sorry.

Leopold makes me think of Leopold and Loeb, which is probably not a common assocation for most people anymore.  I could get on board with Aldo though.

Other suggestions:  Solomon, Walter, Felix, Arthur, Matthias, Mateo, Jude, Rowan, Graham.

November 15, 2017 06:23 PM
In Response to Boy name issue . . .

For me personally, I think it would depend on why the divorce was so bitter.  If he was just an @ss, meh, she'll move on. If it was something really traumatic (abusive, cheater who passed on an STD, etc.) I'd suggest passing on Benjamin.  Those types of extreme negative associations are unlikely to be replaced easily, even by a much loved nephew.  

I'd also be curious to know what you mean by a "few" years.  In this case, I think time does matter.  If the divorce was 20 years ago, I'd be more inclined to use it as opposed to if the divorce was like three or four years ago.  If it was more on the recent side, perhaps she'll have moved on enough that Benjamin will be a better option for a future baby.

I agree with previous posters that using another Ben-name sounds like a nice option.  If the former husband was only known as Ben, you could also go with Benjamina and then make a point to only (or mostly) call him only by the full name.

I think it would also help if you had more reasons to use the name.  Is there anything else you can say besides you've loved the name a long time & it's a Star Wars reference?  Can you claim it's a family name (even if it's a distant one)?  Or the name of a much loved friend or perhaps has some religious signifance to you?  My experience has been that people are more accepting of names with a negative association if they can be convinced there is an "important" reason to use it.  Just loving a name isn't considered important by a lot of people.


November 14, 2017 11:12 AM

I'll second the comments already made about Bodhi.  Particularly the Bode spelling-it's basically just the word bode.  Not a great word association and unlikely to be said the way you want.  Have you considered something along the lines of Beau or Brody instead?

Lucius is nice in theory, but I'm not crazy about it already being in play, even if it is only a variation of a middle name.  I'm not sure what the cultural reference to Wolfgang is, but the Lucius Malfoy association is quite strong for me.  It's enough to turn me off the name, even though I'm fine with similar names like Lucy, Lucio, etc.

I like Wolf/Wolfgang.  I'm not sure about the specific character that makes the name problematic for you.  My guess is most people's primary association will be Mozart.  I do think Wolf is perfectly fine as a stand alone name.  I also like the idea of another wolf-related name and then using Wolf as the nickname/call name.

I like Rhett, and don't think I'd be too bothered about a name similar to the name of one of my cousins.  Would perhaps something like Everett with Rhett as the nickname be better for you?  Family members are unlikely to make the immediate connection when the name announcement is made, and you have an option to fall back on to help decrease confusion at family events.  This is all assuming you see your cousin a lot.  If it is someone you rarely if ever encounter, I wouldn't be too worried about it.  If you aren't particularly close, I doubt people will assume it's some kind of honor name or something.

Bray is the noise a donkey makes.  I don't see it working as a "fine name" at all. Perhaps you'd be interested in Brady?  Brady also seems similar to Bodhi.

For some reason, Bear doesn't seem as name like to me as Wolf does.  Maybe just because I've never met a Bear IRL?  The image of Teddy Bear makes the name seem great on a wee one, but perhaps it won't age as well?  Baer is an option, but I personally wouldn't use it unless I had a personal/family connection with the surname.  It seems very Surnamey to me.  It also makes me think of aspirin, even though I know the spelling is not the same.

Of your vetoed names, I'd consider Otto, Maximus, and Anders worth a possible revisit.  Cub is just silly.  :-)


November 13, 2017 10:39 AM

I typically don't care for sibsets with matching initials.  However, I do like that Charlotte & Camilla don't have the same starting sound, even if they do technically share the initial.  For other C names, I'd suggest looking for one with a unique starting sound.  Celeste, Celine, Cecilia, Cecily, etc.  That way, if you do have a 4th and don't want another C name, it perhaps won't seem quite so obvious when the names are said together.   If you do go with Chloe, I'd recommend making sure you have at least one or two other C names that could be solid contenders, just in case you need them later.

Meredith is fine, and if it is your favorite name, I see no reason why you shouldn't use it.  In modern usage it's just as femine as your daughters' names.  I personally don't find it particularly heavy, though I agree it is a bit of a "mom" name.  But feeling slightly dated isn't a good reason to not use a favorite name.  Do you use nicknames for your daughters?  Perhaps the idea of Charlie, Millie and Mery or Lottie, Cammie, and Mery would help you move past some of the cons of using Meredith.

Olivia is lovely & style wise fits really well with Charlotte & Camilla.  I agree that it is a bit boring.

Vivienne is also lovely and a nice style-match for your daughter's names.  It's more exciting to me that Olivia, but it sounds as though you just aren't excited by it.  

Other suggestions for a sister to Charlotte and Camilla; Victoria, Phoebe, Lucy, Audrey, Emma, Tess/Tessa.


November 13, 2017 10:21 AM

Oh I love George Arthur!  My youngest is a George, and Arthur was on my longer list (vetoed by husband.)  FWIW, I think George is a undercover name, it looks like it should be more popular than it actually is.  I secretly suspect that a good share of them must go by their middles or something. My son is nearly 10, and we have never met another wee George.  

Louise is a family name for me, and I honestly have never cared much for it. It does strike me as quite Southern when used as a middle for anything.  Probably because my family tends to jump to the Mary Lou, Georgie Lou, Winnie Lou style nicknames.  So I agree that the Georgia Louise combination feels strongly Southern.  What about Georgina Louise?  No state association, and it sounds as f your family is unlikely to do the whole Georgie Lou thing.

I am strongly tempted to tell your husband to get over his aversion to nicknames.  Henrietta to Hattie shouldn't require a ton of explanation, "Meet our daugter Henrietta.  We call her Hattie."  Or simply "This is Hattie."  Do you encounter a lot of people unfamiliar with Hattie?  I'm honestly feeling confused about why this would require much explanation.  It sounds like maybe your husband would be ok with Mildred called Millie.  So perhaps you could sell him on a nickname that seems more like an obvious shortened version of the given name?  Millicent strikes me as similar to Winnifred.  Or perhaps something like Melisande?  Would that be close enough to Mildred for you to count as a family name?  

FWIW, I find the idea of daughters Henrietta and Winnifred quite charming.  Sometimes husbands are just silly.  :-)


November 11, 2017 09:25 PM
In Response to Second baby!

Would your husband feel less worried about Edmund if you offered a nickname like Ed/Eddie/Ned/Ted?  All of them are pretty standard for the "ed" names, and not nearly as fusty sounding.  I happen to like fusty, but I'm guessing that's what causes concern for your husband?  Though I do agree with others that name teasing really isn't a thing the way it used to be.  

Edmun is my favorite from your boy list.  I also quite like Nico, and I think it's fine as a stand alone. If you really want a longer name for it, and can't get on board with Nicholas there are other options.  Nicolai, Nicodemus, & Dominic come to mind.

I really like both Thea & Thalia, it's hard for me to pick which I like best.  I don't think you should be too concerned if the flow with Alice isn't ideal. First/middle won't be said together all that often.  The addition of just a slight pause will be enough to keep them from running together.  

November 11, 2017 09:19 PM

Um, no, I don't think Boomer should be the given name.  He'll spend his life explaining that it is his given name, and have nothing to fall back on for a professional identity.  Boomer as a nickname shouldn't raise any eyebrows.  It reads as obviously a nickname.  People may ask what his given name is, and they may ask how he got the nickname Boomer.  But is that really a bad thing?  Seems to me that it'd give him an opportunity to talk about and feel connected to his grandfather, which I consider part of the appeal of using an honor name.

I think Alton Finn called Boomer seems like the best way to get it all.  Nods to both grandfathers, a name you like, and a solid name if he ever decides he wants/needs something less obviously nicknamey.

November 9, 2017 04:24 PM
In Response to Evelyn and Jocelyn?

It is closer than I would personally want for my kids, but I wouldn't think too much about it if I encountered it on another sibling pair.  If you mostly call them Ev or Jocie or somesuch, the potential for confusion or comments about the similarity shouldn't be an issue.

I will 2nd previous comments about the possibility of feeling obligated to continue the theme if you were to have a 3rd daughter.  If you think you may have a 3rd, and think you'd want to continue the theme, I'd suggest making sure now that there is another lyn name or two that you like enough to use.

November 8, 2017 08:03 AM

I agree that Margaret Christina/Daisy would be perfect, and I would totally embrace the whole floral theme.  When they get older and perhaps decide the floral thing is too much for them, they both have the option of using their given names or a more traditional nickname if they want.

Felicia/Filly made me think of Fliss, which could be used for Felicia or Felicity.

What about something like Melissa called Bee? 

Coco could be an option for just about any hard-C name.  Chloe, Colette, Courtney.  I think this one works especially well since the middle name will also start with a C.  (Cici is another possible option).

Since Poppy and Philippa are only connected by the repeated P, maybe look for another name pairs with similar dominate letters/sounds?  For example, Josephine called Fiona.

I'd also look for more old fashioned nicknames that have fallen out of general use.  Margaret/Daisy is a nice example.  Or something like Laura/Lolly.  Lolly could also work as a nickname for Lorelei.

November 6, 2017 08:38 AM
In Response to Girl options

Elinor is lovely, and I personally don't think the association with Princess Leonor is too obvious an association.  It's got such a history of use that single associations seem very diluted to me.  However, I can see how it might not work for you, given the current situation with Catalan & Spain.

I'm pretty neutral about Flavia.  It's NMS, but I don't actively dislike it either.

Florence is lovely, and I like how in the middle position it would echo your daughter's name.  However, I also quite like it as a first name for you.

I don't think the flow of Isolde/Iseult is a dealbreaker.  Would you need to use both variations?  If Isolde works in Catalan, that spelling (with the schwa ending) would help with the flow issues.  I think this is one of my top picks from your list.

Octavia is lovely and if you both like it, I don't think the eight meaning should stop you.  Lots of names have meanings, and they mostly don't matter.  One option would be to simply play up the eight factor from the beginning, so that it becomes "her number."  You could tie it into her birth year of 2018 perhaps.  Or simply keep it in your back pocket in case eight turns up somewhere in her birthdate, birth time, etc.  I'd rank this as another of my top picks.  If you just can't justify the eight meaning, perhaps Olympia?  Ophelia is another with a similar sound and flow.

Rosemary does seem a bit too theme-y with Ivy.  I could see it having potential as a middle name. Perhaps Florence Rosemary?  Each girl would have one grandmother name + one botanical.

Sybil is lovely.  I don't know anything about the accent, or how it would be said in Catalan, but it seems as if it would work for you in a dual language setting.

I really love Ursula.  Let your husband know that I personally encourage him to get more on board!  It doesn't strike me as "too much" at all.  Perhaps you could come up with a nickname he'd like?

November 5, 2017 09:17 PM

Augustine is visually a masculine name for me.  Said by a German speaker, I'd hear it as feminine, with the ending "e" a schwa.  However, in an English speaking context, I think it's unlikely that the final "e" will be voiced, making it sound like the masculine version.  Assuming you are in a primarily English speaking location, my preference for a girl would be Augustina, as that makes the name unambiguously feminine.

Despite knowing the difference between Augustine & Augustin thanks to my German speaking husband and in-laws, I tend to default to the masculine German (ow-goose-teen) for both spellings.  It's also very hard for me to not sing the name, as the song "Ach du lieber Augustin" is one of the songs my husband tends to sing/hum/whistle as he goes about his business.

I think Gus/Gussie, Auggie or Tina could all work as nicknames for Augustina.

November 2, 2017 08:44 AM
In Response to Quads! Name help

I notice that Esme, Julie and Sara are more on the short and sweet side.  So I like the idea of going with something similar for the 4th baby.  That narrows it down to Alice, Emma and Lisa. 

Esme & Emma are visually very similar-and two E names could make initialling difficult.  It also creates another theme within the set, and it sounds as if she would prefer not to do that.  

I really think either Alice or Lisa would be nice in the set, but I think I lean a bit more towards Lisa.  Overall, the names together lean more New Traditional in style, while Alice strikes me as more Vintage Revival.


November 1, 2017 09:38 AM

I agree with lucubratix's overall assessment of your names. 

I think my favorite from your boy list is Ned (Winston being a close 2nd), though I'm not 100% sold on Edward.  If feels a bit ordinary compared to the other names on your list.  I think I'd feel more excited about Ned as a nickname for Edwin or Edmund, maybe Edgar.  I'll also suggest (or 2nd) Walter, Arthur, Albert, George, Frederich & Alfred.

From your girl list, I adore Winifred.  I don't even want to offer other suggestions because of how much I love it.  But I'll throw out Cordelia, Augusta, Helga, Agatha, and Edith.

I do think it might be helpful in your case to consider names for possible future children.  For example, using Winston now would likely rule out Winifred in the future.  If you decide you don't want to let go of Winifred, then that would rule out my suggestions of Frederich and Alfred.  You also seem to be drawn to W names.  Would you be OK with an all W sibling set?  Or would using one W name now rule out other W names for future kids?


October 25, 2017 09:57 AM
In Response to Miles or Josiah!

I agree that Miles Hendrix has Very Strong musical associations, and I suspect they will for a lot of people.  If that isn't what they are going for, would they consider Miles Josiah?  I doubt most people know of the Myles Standish/son Josiah connection, so I don't think it would be problematic in the way other father/son combos could.

I also agree that Josiah still rings religious in a way that other Old Testament names don't.  Perhaps beacause I just haven't met a Josiah IRL yet?  I do rather like the juxtoposition of Josiah + Hendrix together.  

October 25, 2017 09:52 AM
In Response to Baby Girl name poll

They are all lovely.  I think my favorite is Lucy Catherine.  However, I agree with the previous poster who stated that Audrey Anne just doen't quite work for me as well as the others.  Audrey could get my top vote if paired with something else.  I like both Audrey Catherine & Audrey Mae better than Audrey Anne.  Audrey Lucille could also work, if you wouldn't mind eliminating the option of Lucy for any possible girls in the future.