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Congratulations another Laura on finding out you're having another boy! Maybe you mentioned it earlier, but I don't remember seeing this news til now. Andr3w Lawr3nc3 is a great name!
Congratulations on the birth of your third little boy!
I've always liked Oliver -- it was on our list for several of our boys (we have five) -- and Oz is cool and unexpected, but with Isaac already being Ize I wouldn't do Oz too.
Ezra is a great name too, and I would think the natural nn would be Ez, but again, already having an Ize, I'm not a fan of either Ezra or Ez.
Cole is a fun name, but it doesn't strike me as "intellectual, gentlemanly" -- though I might consider Orion to be so. What do you think of Orion as a first name?
Logan I don't care for. I know a few girls named Logan, and for boys, all I think is X-Men (Wolverine), which isn't necessarily a bad association, but doesn't strike me as "intellectual, gentlemanly."
August is a good name that seems to fit your criteria imo. We'll likely name our baby-on-the-way Augustin if a boy, nn Gus; I also know two Augusts nn'd Augie. Our mn pick is Francis, if that helps.
One of my best friends is married to a Seamus, and he fits your description pretty well: "intellectual, gentlemanly, but still masculine." He normally goes by the full Seamus but my friend often calls him Shea.
Unfortunately I've never cared for Edwin, and have a hard time seeing it on a baby. But I'm sure if I met one I'd think he and his name were darling!
I also thought I'd suggest the name of one of my sons, I think it fits what you're looking for: Thaddeus. We call him Taddy as a nn, which perfectly suits him. I know an older gentleman who's definitely intellectual named Thaddeus -- he's a PhD and goes by Ted. Our Thaddeus has Philip for a mn.
I can't wait to hear what you choose!
Aw, that's a sweet story! I like the Rosanna spelling best, but I don't mind the Roseanna spelling.
Also noted in the Time article linked to by Allegra: "Franceso is the most popular male baby name in Italy" because of Pope Francis!
Funny you should mention Evelyn, because I first heard it on a baby a couple years ago and did indeed think it was an "old" name. My brother has a niece named Kathleen who's about 12 -- when I first met her I thought that too was a surprising option for a young girl.
Miriam's example of Jason is a good one -- when I saw the actor Jason Robards (born 1922) in a movie when I was a teenager, I thought he was so cool for having such a "young" name.
Several TV/celebrity baby names have struck me in recent years as being "old": Mabel, Matilda, Alice, Agnes, Hattie, Pearl ... but all those names are enough in use now that they no longer feel "old" to me (well ... maybe Agnes still does), especially with having fans of such names on these forums, a whole host of names I'd previously considered unusable because of perceived mustiness that now seem viable and even fresh to me.
Louis -- LOO-is
Lucia -- loo-SEE-ah
Madeleine -- MAD-a-lin
Magdalen(e) -- MAG-da-lin
Mariella -- I'm not familiar enough to assume one pronunciation over the other
Vera -- Ditto Mariella
I'm in the Northeast, if it's helpful.
Pascie is really cute!
Yes, it was my understanding that Pascal is pas-KAHL and Paschal is PAS-kəl, like the paschal lamb. I like the Paschal spelling and pronunciation, but didn't know what the broader impression was of the name, nor what the default pronunciation would be for people who didn't know that PAS-kəl was the preferred one. Thanks for all your input!
I have five boys, Th0mas R0blee (R0blee is a family surname pronounced ROE-blee), Gabr!el St3phen, J0hn D0minic, Xav!er J0seph, and Thadd3us Ph!lip. We call them Th0mas, Gab3, J0hnny, Xav3, and T@ddy.
I'm due in April with #6, gender unknown; if we have a girl, she'll be Sus@nna Mar!ae (our girl pick with all our pregnancies), and right now we're leaning toward August!n Franc!s for a boy (though not 100% sure).
I think Malcolm and Miriam are perfect together! Especially because you both love the names! Congrats!
I vote Francis too. As a name enthusiast, I was as excited to hear what name he chose as I was to see who was elected. I was blown away by his choice of Francis, as so many others were -- a name that's never been used before by any pope is huge news! Its selection suggested a Franciscan sensibility: a love for the poor and a personality who would shake things up -- both of which have been shown to be true, over and over in the short time he's been pope. Additionally, it shows that the namer himself has a very good understanding of the power of the "right" name -- I can't think of any other name that would be more appropriate for Pope Francis or carry such meaning for those who hear it. In one name, Cardinal Bergoglio told us who he is and what kind of a pope he would be.
These names were inspired by nymbler.com after plugging in Bjorn and Ronan:
Ivor -- inspired by Ivan -- behindthename says it's from Old Norse and was brought to Britain by Scandinavian settlers and invaders, after which it was adopted in Ireland, Scotland and Wales. St. Ivor (or Ibar) was an Irish saint who died about 500, according to Butler's "Lives of the Saints."
Finn -- was my first thought, as it's both Irish/Celtic and Norwegian/Scandinavian. I couldn't find a St. Finn, but see Finan below.
Finan -- loses the Scandinavian origin, but similar to Finn, and St. Finan was an Irish monk and bishop who died in 661 according to the Catholic Encyclopedia.
Magnus -- nymbler lists it as of Celtic, Latin, and Scandinavian origin (though behindthename only has Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, and Late Roman); there is a St. Magnus, and another notable saint is St. Albert the Great -- in Latin, Albertus Magnus (Magnus means "great" in Latin).
Lorcan -- an Irish name, and a saint, St. Lorcan O'Toole (anglicized as St. Laurence/Lawrence O'Toole), died 1180 according to the Catholic Encyclopedia.
Adrian -- covers all your ethnic backgrounds, and there are a few Sts. Adrian to choose from. You might like St. Adrian of Canterbury (who was actually African, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia, but did his good work in England); a different St. Adrian was said to either be a missionary to Ireland or the same person as St. Odhern of Ireland.
Others that seem like that might fit that I didn't have time to research more: Felix, Hugo, Oliver, Neil.
I like Georgia (but love Georgiana, which I know isn't on your list), Jemma (and similar Jemima -- you're so lucky it's not tainted over there like it is here!), and Kathryn the best from your girl list (Kate is one of my all-time favorites. Since you have Kathryn, Katie, and Caitlin all their own entries on your list, it seems you love the Kate- names too!).
For boys, Gerard (said like Jared, right? Not jer-ARD as we do?), Cian, Conor, and Tiernan are my favorites. Normally Fionn would get my vote hands down, but F.U. is a dealbreaker for me. :( I suppose you could do Phineas/Phin, but I'm not sure P.U. is any better (especially for the little kids).
Joanna and Georgina make me think of a girl I knew named Janina -- I loved her name then and I still do -- maybe you'd like that?
Tadhg is one of my favorite boy names, but it probably doesn't pass your "not confuse people" test.
I'm just noticing you have a lot of "k" names on both lists: Kathryn, Katie, Caitlin, Cian, Cillian, Conor, Kiernan -- if you were looking for patterns that might indicate your style, I'd pay attention to that one! Other names with that sound that I like include Catriona, Caroline, Ciara, Caoimhe/Keeva, Colum, Casey (a family surname for us, and used for both boys and girls in our family, but I've never been able to convince my husband of it).
If it helps, one of my closest friends from college is Rosey (full name R0seAnn, but she's only ever gone by Rosey) -- she's 35 and it fits her fine. She was a scientist before she decided to stay home with her kids -- she's never mentioned any problem she has with her name as an adult, either personally or professionally.
But my vote is still Susanna. :) And -- this is a stretch, I know, but you might like to consider it -- behindthename.com says Susanna is derived from the Hebrew word shoshan, which they say means "rose" in modern Hebrew. Miriam would be able to verify whether this is true or not, but if it is -- you could potentially use Rosie as a nn for Susanna, even if it was just a private family nn. You could have the nn that makes you melt when your 3yo says it; you can have a Biblical name that goes so well with the siblings; you could have Anna as a nn too if you want -- it seems all your favorite name are wrapped up in Susanna!
I've only ever heard it said ROAM-y ... there was that movie, Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion (I think that was the title), in which it was pronounced ROAM-y, so that's one cultural reference that might help (it's not the greatest reference -- terrible movie -- but I don't think it's a problem. I believe it has history as a traditional nn for Rosemary, so that's what I would focus on).
In order of preference:
I love Benjamin and I don't care for Dean, so my first and last choices were easy. Ethan and Ryan are pretty similar to me -- okay, not my favorites.
Others will surely have more eloquent responses, as this topic has come up before, but I believe the reason that names that seem like they should be equally acceptable for both boys and girls aren't considered so because once a name is commonly used for girls, parents of boys often shy away from giving those names to their sons because they might be seen as feminine, soft, etc. On the other hand, the characteristics traditionally considered to be male -- powerful, strong -- are seen as good things to impart to a girl through using a "boy" name.
Basically, once a boy name starts being used commonly for girls, it's not considered a *unisex* name but a girl's name. Ryan, Micah, and Finley are three that immediately come to mind that are still commonly accepted as boy names, though there are girls starting to use them. I don't know where the tipping point is, but it often starts with personal experience -- for example, though I know a girl Ryan and a girl Finley, they're both still mostly *boy* to me; however, I know too many girl Micahs to ever use it for a boy, though I love it.
Though it's fantasy rather than sci-fi I immediately thought of Game of Thrones -- Laura did a whole post on the name Khaleesi -- I actually think Etta Khaleesi sounds quite nice together and has a nice meaning. http://www.babynamewizard.com/archives/2013/5/khaleesi-the-non-name-from-a-non-language
Another source of pretty fantasy names is Lord of the Rings -- Eowyn and Galadriel both flow well enough with Etta. Or Hunger Games: Katniss would work.
If not sci-fi or fantasy, perhaps an ethnic name? Some of the Irish ones are so pretty: Etta Siobhan; Etta Roisin; Etta Mairead -- I really like Etta Mairead. Or Etta Maeve -- Maeve was a queen in the Tain Bo Cuailnge (accents over the first a, the o, and the u), an old Irish epic. Maeve is an anglicization of the original spelling, which was Medb in the Tain, and an incredibly strong character. I think Etta Maeve might be my favorite of these suggestions.
Please let us know what your friend and her husband choose!