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Thanks Miriam. I did intend for the J sound like as in jello when I typed the Ahn-gel as that word is the same pronunciation. THAT is the inherent problem with all this. English has so many rules coupled with too many exceptions. In the words of many a game company, "It is easy to learn but it takes a lifetime to master". and Beth-I agree. Pilar is not Pill-er. It is the Spanish pronunciation which to my ears is more like Pee-lahr.
Jiminy cricket-Your ET story made me giggle but it is sort of like that in pronunciation isn't it. Miriam-What was the pronunciation Pitts was going for? I am not as well versed in literature as some here and am unfamiliar with the story. If I saw Angelle I would think Ahn-gel or Angel. However, with Onjel that is pretty much only Ahn-gel. I guess some could potentially get Angle or something too though.
hyz-It's funny you say its creative and throw out the Maya example. My friend struggled with the spelling and asked many people for advice on how THEY would spell it. Many felt that even with the known version of Mayan people that that spelling for a girls name would have people pronouncing it as May-uh. We also felt that adding an H wouldn't help. Btw, her dd is almost 12. Also, a link to a new celebrity baby who I'm sure struggled with similar spelling issues. I like the way she modified the name but wish people would stop thinking Elliott (in any spelling) is for a girl. She spelled it Elliotte. http://celebritybabies.people.com/2012/02/09/marla-sokoloff-welcomes-daughter-elliotte-anne/?xid=rss-topheadlines&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D134423
Miriam-that story is interesting. I would definitely pronounce Mariah as Mah-RYE-ah and Maria as Mah-REE-ah unless told otherwise. However, I never would've thought to apply that rule to other names such as Sofia/Sophia. I suppose this is why my friend spelled her dd's name Mya in order to get the My-uh pronunciation rather than Mia=Me-uh.
Erinne-That's a pretty looking spelling. I would pronounce it Erin but with a bit more emphasis on the -in part so that it was like Corinne which is another name that has been talked about on here before. Are there any other pronunciations you've gotten? Erin-nee? Er-ine? Just curious. hyz-Your Layla story is funny. I wouldn't say either one like Leela. Liela=long I and Leyla=long A
Mark (post13) makes an interesting point. That coupled with post 14 make me want to say that we learn the correct pronunciation of the orthographic representation. So therefore, in a kind of chicken vs. egg way, the written name comes first. Erin is not Aaron nor is it Airen but they mostly come out sounding the same because that's the way we've learned them. People have not been taught that the first is EE-rin or Er-in so if a person pronounces it as so I think that's a bit off. It's just that the English language has so many sound combinations though. Since I would want my child to not be burdened with sp/pron issues, I would spell it Erin for a girl and Aaron for a boy and maybe Airen if I were more of a "float my own boat" kind of person since these are relatively expected or commmon. Persons working on their genealogy have to face this issue when researching relatives and their immigration. There are many times when the surnames are alternately spelled. You have to be flexible and allow yourself the possibilities of multiple combinations for certain sounds otherwise you may never find your ancestors. Differently accenting syllables is also a bit tricky sometimes. My classic example of is how when I was younger I used to pronounce Persephone (Per-Seff-O-Nee) as Persa-phone rhyming with telephone. This kind of relates to your recent post regarding the punctuation marks.
My husband always makes a big deal out of this and how people can use letters in ANY combination and pronounce it ANY way they want. I tell him this is not true but maybe now with the invention of Abcde it is becoming more of a reality. I do agree that certain spellings are interchangeable and some are not. I wouldn't think twice about Isabelle vs. Izabelle on a resume or Brian vs Bryan but Christina vs Xtina is a bit out there. Can we label this the Prince Syndrome? How were you supposed to pronounce his name when it was a symbol anyway?
Yay Laura!
need2xthehelp-Congrats on expecting! I also love the 3rd set of names you offered. The 2nd set is okay as the 2 syl names work better I think than the 3. 3 is just such a mouthful. Of what you've listed I would choose Lydia with Isla or Cassia. I might guide you to peruse slightly more common 3 syl names if you just can't get away from them w/o breaking your heart. Things like Cassandra, Alexandra, Philippa are longer more formal names with fun short nn's so the girls would have some flexibility. Other names like Samantha, Natalie, Francesca may be in the top 100 but you should realistically think about how much they are used in your area. My dd is named Natalie and although it was around #17 for her birth year we only know 1 other in the elementary school (k-5) and only occasionally run into on the playground.
Mom2Ryan-I love Blake as a match to Ryan. I think that could work really well. Maybe you should take the angle of just trying to match the name and THEN deciding whether the name works for a girl. That might open up the possibilities more idk.
Anne with an E-Welcome back! Anna Kate is lovely. Marit-I like the names you've picked but feel that as a sibset Lena and Emil match more closely in style. the sound is similar though so it might not work for you. Micah Jake just has a stop to it that makes it not quite right for me. I think you need a 2 syl mn. However,what is more important is how you and your dh feel about it though. Some additional thoughts if you need them: Micah Levi; Micah Owen; Micah Ezra; Micah Emmett; Micah Joel; Micah August; Micah Jude Emil Josiah; Emil James; Emil Abram
Mom2Ryan-You're welcome. I don't like how the girls names alliterate with the last name but I do like the sibset. I also thought things like Kendall; Quinn; or Sloane would work as well.
Mom2Ryan-I know a family that has little girls named R33se, Ril3y, and R3gan. Not sure of exact spelling of any of them (I have masked them here for protection). Anyway, their last name is the name you asked about above so maybe one of those would work although you gotta like R's I suppose.
Interesting lists Laura.(Just so you know the girl list for Poland is labeled boy when you go to the actual list). Chimu-I thought of another name for you regarding a sibling for Malachi. How about Lionel?
You're welcome Karyn! Parsley Oregano sounds good to me. Or maybe: Pepper Coriander Sage Rosemary there was a post about these kinds of names on NameCandy recently.
Karyn-they didn't like Vagina (Va-Gee-na) as an option? ROFL! I loved that xkcd comic btw. Chimu-the obvious choice for that long I sound they seem to enjoy is Simon. That is not my first choice to go with Malachi though. I can't seem to find any other long I names I like but how about: Joel; Owen; or Noah Sebastian; Jasper; Reed; Leo Dylan; Tristan; Declan; Wesley
Baby named by using Facebook poll is born: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/lindsey-dave-meske-facebook-baby-name_n_1250540.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D132253
Keren-Your book story is humorous. I have never seen Denzil but it makes me think of Denzel as in Washington. Is it an alternate spelling? I don't know much about the name but it sounds a bit more exotic than Alistair. Maybe a name like Pax would match it better.
Thora-I don't think Lydia is out of place with Alistair. I think all your names match but are not "matchy" if that makes sense. Havingahardtime-I think you should really think about changing your dd's name. Laura has reviewed this topic many times. Search "namers remorse" and you should get many opinions about the subject. My thoughts are that if it is a matter of attachment then by all means do it. If it is just about having found a beautiful name then keep thinking.
ROFL Laura! I think matches for Barack are Mitt, Newt, and John (LOL). Can't wait for more challenges like this.