#3 Baby - Follow Pattern of Older Siblings?

We have two girls and are expecting Baby #3 and didn't find out gender. With the girls we picked names we liked and weren't really paying attention to patterns but have since realized there are quite a few patterns.

If a boy we don't mind doing something completely different, but we don't like the idea of a third girl with a totally different name when the first two have so many similiarities. This will be the last child.

Although there are several names we like are on the list if we apply all the patterns (obviously we have a "style"), it's a pretty short list. We also really like several names that carry over some of the patterns, but not all.

What strikes you as the most noticeable patterns? And what about first letter - repeat one? same as last name? or it doesn't matter - pick any letter?

Here are what the first two have in common:

3 syllables

6 Letters

Share I,N, and two A's

End in A

One starts with first letter dad's name, One starts with first letter mom's name

 

We are perfectly happy with any of the names we like that fit some or all of the patterns, we are not people who fall in love with one name and can't imagine anything else. We grow to love the name as it becomes fitting to the baby we love. We aren't looking for replies that tell us to pick a name we love and not worry about it. Thank you!

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December 15, 2015 2:34 PM

When spoken, I'd say that three syllables ending in A would be the two clearest patterns. You cannot tell the number of letters when spoken, though approximate number of letters woud show when written. So, a name with 5 or 7 letters that is three syllables and ends in A would completely fit the pattern, I think.

If the two As are really close in both names (say, Eliana and Chiara), the two As are a more noticible trend, since the trend is really a_a, not just two As. If one name ends in ---a-a but other starts and ends with A (A----a), then no, I don't think that the two As are a relevant pattern. 

Both having an N *could* be obvious, but I'm willing to bet that if the third name doesn't have an N, nobody would notice.

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December 15, 2015 2:56 PM

I'm having a very hard time judging this in the abstract like this. Any chance of some specifics, suitably obfuscated?

Regarding the matching parental initials, I can only repeat the story I've posted on several other threads: it took my sister and me over forty years to notice that she's the odd one out in family initials. Thus, I think that's a pattern that can easily be ignored for the third child.

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December 15, 2015 5:18 PM

My first thoughts were the same as Karyn's - number of syllables and ending in the letter "a" were the clearest patterns. Then I wondered if one or both ended in "ia".

THEN I decided syllables may not matter so much - or whether it's "ia" or just "a" ending. To use some of your patterns - but not all - a little Tatiana or Eloisa, for example, would be fine with sisters Claudia and Sophia. So I think the ending A is the most notable pattern.

Are your daughters old enough to know what mom and dad's names are yet? And been around while discussing this subject? To HNG's point, they may never think one way or another about it. Personally, I would pick out a different initial. If one of the names you like ends up beginning with one of your middle initials or the name of a close relative - or mom's maiden name (if something different now), that might be convenient, but not neccessary in my opinion.

Good luck!

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By bmo
December 17, 2015 5:20 PM

Thank you for your thoughts!! One ends in "ia" and the other ends in "a" so that's no an issue anyway.

 

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By Eko
December 15, 2015 7:05 PM

I don't think any of the patterns are very obvious and needs to be continued. Okay, it would feel a bit short to name the next one Kai or Eve when the others have three syllables and 6 letters, but I think it's enough to look for a longer name and not a name that fits the parameters precisely. So maybe look for a name with 2-4 syllables and 5-8 letters, and no one will think that name is the odd one out.

Personally I would look for a name with a new initial (any letter) and a new ending, when saying a bunch of names I find it refreshing if they don't all have the same ending sound. If you like the family connection with shared initial, maybe you could borrow a initial from the extended family instead? Or maybe do an alliteration with the surname's first letter. Oh, I see now that you suggested that yourself, I happen to like alliterations so I like that idea. :-)

Overall I think style and "feel" of the name creates a stronger pattern than technicalities like certain letters and number of them. So as long as you follow your style you should be good patternwise. 

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December 15, 2015 10:28 PM

Without seeing the actual names, it's hard to know what pattern(s) would stand out the most; my guess is that nothing but a general impression of length would occur to anyone but fond name-enthusiast parents.

Style and overall sound likely would also be quite noticeable to most folks, if they match in that way. So if you have an Adrina and Katina, people will notice if your next is Jo; but if it's more like Danica and Marina, then I think you could easily have your next be an Isabeau or Finnuola or what-have-you and they'd all feel fine together (and better than with Dianna or Lanisa).

I do like the idea of giving your third child his or her own initial, and also like the suggestion of looking for possibly another "honor" initial--like for your maiden name, or an initial that some of your extended family share. Really, I think I'd look for a name you like that fits whatever other criteria you settle on, and then see if you could say it was an honor initial in some way.

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December 16, 2015 12:10 AM

Something you may want to consider is whether it feels as though you're "locking" yourself into a pattern or theme for any potential future children. Two sisters who happen to have 3-syllable names ending in a is simply coincidence, but three becomes a definite pattern. I also feel this way about sibling alliteration. If you do follow a pattern for your third child, will you feel even more pressured to stay with it should you have any other kids? Will you have trouble finding names you like that also fit all of the criteria? 

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December 16, 2015 5:38 AM

The good news is that there are hundreds of names which meet ALL the requirements. I might start with those, first -- I have pasted a list below that meet everything except for syllable count, since that's harder to do from a simple script. (I ran this on all the names used in 2014 -- if you have more vintage tastes, you can let me know and I can apply these filters to a different year).

I would probably pick a first initial to honor an important family member or special friend, actually, rather than repeating an initial.

And to answer your question, to me I think syllable count would be the most noticable feature -- the how it sounds length is more important than how long it is on paper.

After that, the internal n seems like the most noticable feature, as -a endings are so common that they don't quite strike me as hugely obvious, and vowels make such a huge range of sounds. I'd feel more strongly about insisting on an -a ending this time if YOUR name ended in an -a as well, and especially if your husband were an Ezra, say.

Ariana,5461
Gianna,3061
Eliana,2708
Alaina,1729
Elaina,1145
Bianca,901
Briana,761
Karina,736
Danica,550
Marina,430
Ivanna,426
Aliana,397
Milana,365
Danika,355
Aviana,346
Iliana,330
Aiyana,323
Janiya,323
Carina,254
Analia,232
Saniya,229
Davina,185
Tianna,176
Iyanna,166
Lianna,164
Shania,153
Sarina,152
Zaniya,142
Malina,134
Jianna,132
Kalina,130
Laniya,108
Dianna,107
Kianna,104
Sabina,101
Nyasia,98
Oriana,95
Taniya,95
Ileana,88
Anaiya,82
Kaniya,80
Cianna,78
Daiana,75
Zarina,74
Shaina,69
Daniya,67
Ilyana,67
Aitana,66
Raniya,66
Haniya,65
Liyana,65
Kitana,61
Inaaya,57
Bianka,56
Salina,56
Madina,55
Nadiya,52
Naisha,48
Eviana,47
Sianna,45
Leiana,43
Ivanka,42
Vianna,42
Eriana,39
Ainara,38
Naevia,38
Rianna,38
Zianna,38
Sakina,36
Yanira,33
Savina,32
Ivyana,30
Lavina,30
Naudia,30
Darina,29
Nailea,29
Nabila,26
Mianna,24
Miyana,24
Anabia,23
Araina,23
Halina,23
Ishana,23
Janina,23
Nahlia,23
Calina,22
Mahina,22
Nabiha,22
Tiyana,22
Kiyana,21
Vianca,21
Nariya,20
Alania,19
Ioanna,19
Iriana,19
Jalina,19
Janyia,19
Nakiya,19
Samina,19
Aamina,18
Anaira,18
Anasia,18
Fianna,18
Hanifa,18
Naiara,18
Adiana,17
Hinata,17
Manaia,17
Thania,17
Zanyia,17
Dannia,15
Galina,15
Keiana,15
Aanika,14
Hannia,14
Jaiana,14
Janita,14
Maniya,14
Nadira,14
Naziya,14
Niasia,14
Safina,14
Ivania,13
Iyanla,13
Nasira,13
Oliana,13
Quiana,13
Vihana,13
Aaniya,12
Ayiana,12
Evania,12
Kaiana,12
Nalina,12
Niyana,12
Sanyia,12
Tamina,12
Aidana,11
Anaisa,11
Iviana,11
Katina,11
Ailana,10
Anaika,10
Anaria,10
Kiahna,10
Riyana,10
Sanika,10
Vianka,10
Dalina,9
Jaiona,9
Liahna,9
Nafisa,9
Nakyia,9
Namiya,9
Nasiya,9
Navina,9
Nyaira,9
Rihana,9
Siyana,9
Talina,9
Tanyia,9
Xianna,9
Yanina,9
Ziyana,9
Anahia,8
Asiana,8
Iyahna,8
Janisa,8
Khiana,8
Linaya,8
Nakita,8
Waniya,8
Yliana,8
Azania,7
Caniya,7
Diyana,7
Elania,7
Kamina,7
Kanika,7
Laiana,7
Rainna,7
Tiahna,7
Triana,7
Vinaya,7
Aalina,6
Anaiza,6
Atiana,6
Bianna,6
Dinara,6
Driana,6
Hinaea,6
Idania,6
Ilaina,6
Inanna,6
Iyauna,6
Jahnia,6
Jamina,6
Janila,6
Kirana,6
Lanita,6
Lijana,6
Nabria,6
Nagisa,6
Naihla,6
Naliya,6
Parina,6
Rhiana,6
Sanaia,6
Sinaya,6
Vaniya,6
Vannia,6
Xaniya,6
Yasina,6
Yianna,6
Anadia,5
Aniaya,5
Chiana,5
Giahna,5
Iiyana,5
Ilanna,5
Illana,5
Iolana,5
Janica,5
Janika,5
Kihana,5
Lanyia,5
Maiana,5
Manika,5
Nadina,5
Nahdia,5
Navika,5
Nitara,5
Zinaya,5

 

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December 17, 2015 2:38 AM

What she said.

And wow, what an awesome list you generated!

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By bmo
December 17, 2015 5:23 PM

What a list! Thank you! Both of the girls names are on there but that's a great list to see what others have a similar pattern.

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December 17, 2015 6:18 PM

Please let me know if you want me to mask your daughter's names so that this post won't come up in a search for their names!

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December 16, 2015 7:41 AM

I think it really doesn't matter. My name is Emily. My two sisters have Irish/Scottish names that nobody's ever heard of, both two-syllable, with O sounds, ending in "na", and five letters each (I guess we all have five letters, come to think of it).

I'm clearly the odd one out, but the only thing that ever annoyed me about my name was its popularity. I remember the occasional comment that my name was different to theirs, but if anything, I think my mom worried that theirs were too similar, not that mine was too different.

If you want to continue the pattern there's lots of choice out there. But I really don't think it's necessary. At most, I would maybe continue the a ending, but it's super optional.

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By rooo
December 17, 2015 3:21 AM

I would pick one or two of the patterns to help you narrow your focus and keep baby #3 from sounding too different, and if the others work out so be it.

I probably wouldn't notice the "share I, N and 2 As" pattern, because sound is more noticable than the letters that make the sound. I also wouldn't think anything about a different letter length.

I might prioritize like this:
- must end in -a
- should be 2-4 syllables
- would be nice to contain an "n"
- would be nice to share initial with someone important
- would be nice to be 4-8 letters long

Alternatively, you could prioritize like this:
- must share initial with important person (other than mom and dad)
- must be 3 syllables and/or end in -a
- would be nice to contain an "i" and/or an "n"

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By bmo
December 17, 2015 5:25 PM

Thank you, I like your suggesitons of prioritizing what we want.

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By mk
December 17, 2015 8:05 PM

Without seeing the names, none of these strike me as a pattern at all. If you want to keep something, then I'd go with the "ends in -a" because there are tons of names there. That's the only one that to me is noticeable as a pattern with more than two kids.