A sister for three zany boys?

We are finally pregnant with a baby girl, but we have no idea what to name her! Our boys' names are immediate and solid. We loved what we loved and that was that. As for girls' names, our lists are a little less black and white. I love eccentric nicknames: Birdie, Bea, Liv, Emmy. My husband usually follows suit, but we're having trouble picking "the right" name. This is most likely our last baby and our only little girl--it has to be right! Lol. Our boys are Zachary Holden, Harper Elliot, and August Henry. We want something that will fit in with the style of their names. 


Here are a handful of names we like: 

• Liv Clementine, "Livvy."

• Birdie Eloise.

• Bea Juniper.

• Stella Thisbe. 

• Rowen Olivia (I know Rowen is typically a boy's name, but hubby loves it and I really like Winnie as a nickname!).

• Sophie Alice. 


Any suggestions? We are completely open to anything you have to offer! Thanks!!


September 27, 2014 5:29 PM

I love your quirky taste! My favs in order:

Stella Thisbe (although I'm obsessed with Thisbe and would personally reverse it)

Bea Juniper (would you consider Beatrice/Beatrix as a full name with the nn Bea? I think it would match the strength of Zachary, Harper, and August a little better)

Birdie Eloise (Adorable, although a little different to the style of the boys names)

Liv Clementine (pretty)

Rowen Olivia (nn Winnie is fantastic!)

Sophie Alice (lovely, but rather tame in comparison to the others)

A few more suggestions to try on for size: Cleo, Elodie, Juno, Lulu, Romilly (nn Romy)

Happy naming!

September 27, 2014 6:53 PM

Liv feels incomplete as a given name to me.  I think I would prefer something like Olivia, Olive or Lavina with Liv/Livvy as the nicknames.  

Clementine is fantastic!  I think it has great potential as a first name for you, if you are willing to consider switching it from the middle position.  Clementine Alice, Clementine Thisbe, Clementine Birdie?

Birdie is similar to Liv, in that I would much prefer it as a nickname for something else.  However, as a given name, I do prefer it over just Liv.

Bea Juniper is fantastic!  Bea is technically a nickname, but it feels more complete and perhaps a bit more dignified to me as a full name.  I will mention the Junie B. Jones books.  The character's given name is Juniper Beatrice (but she just likes B.) Given the popularity of the books, you'll likely receive some comments.  However, it could also be a really fun connection for her, once she's old enough to start reading them on her own.  I really, really like this name.

I would honestly avoid Rowen Olivia.  Harper is unisex (though I think more popular as a girl's name).  The specific combination of Harper and Rowen with August and Zachary will likely cause many people to assume Harper (girl) and Rowen (boy).  Have you considered Rowena?  I think it has some of the same quirky/eccentric but still familiar feel as some of your other names.

Sophie Alice and Stella Thisbe are both very pretty.  However, they don't seem as quirky or spunky as your other choices.  They strike me as just a bit bland compared to the others on your list.  Between the two, I prefer Stella Thisbe. I think Thisbe could also be a good candidate for promotion to the first name position.



September 27, 2014 8:16 PM

If you're considering moving it to the first name slot, what about Thisbe with Bea/Bee as a nickname? Then you'd get a two-for-one. 

September 27, 2014 11:01 PM

I also really like the idea of Clementine as a fn. 

I also think Eloise would be great. Same fun style and lots of cute nns.

I would personally rule out Sophie. It's a great name, but it is the single most popular name among wee girls we know (well, it may be tied with Ella and Grace....). I'm not that bothered by popularity, but your boys' names suggest a more eclectic style to me. 

I am not a fan of Rowen for you, mainly because you have a son called Harper. I think your girl's name needs to be distinctly girl.

Unlike others, I'm not a fan of Bea. I could get behind it as a nn. 

On its own, I think it seems musty compared to your boys' sprightly names.

I do love Birdie as a nn, but I just think she may want something more flexible as a grown up.

I LOVE the name Stella, but I think it's a shade too Hollywood glam for you.

So, my fav of my current list for you is Liv. I think it's an excellent, spunky name that fits in well with the rest of the troop.

Ada, Penelope, Willa, something with Milly or Midge....



September 28, 2014 8:26 PM

Liv Clementine - this is gorgeous, and I like the way it flows with the boys' names, but Liv sounds really trendy to me

Birdie Eloise - I LOVE Birdie, but it doesn't exactly fit the same style of your other names.

Bea Juniper - This fits so perfectly with your other names, definetly my favorite by far

Stella Thisbe - I have no problem with this name, I just don't love it. I'm neutral.

Rowen Olivia - I love Rowan and Olivia (and Winnie, too), but seeing Rowan spelled with an "E" really bothers me. I'm also not sure that it sounds right with your boys' names. Sorry, it's an awesome name. (BUT other names with the Winnie nn that I love include Winter and Bronwyn, and I really like Winter with Zachary, Harper and August)

Sophia Alice - Very pretty, but Sophia is SUPER popular (the #1 spot I'm pretty sure), so I'd definetly go with Alice Sophia


September 28, 2014 10:09 PM

Birdie is just way to nicknamey for me. When I think of a CEO Birdie with no full name to go by..ugh. 

Rowen I have the same concerns as others - unisex. But, I also don't see Winnie from Rowen. 

Sophie I think is to common/popular for your style. 

Im hesitant about Bea bc I've always heard ppl say "you're a bia" as in .. b!tch. : /

Stella Thisbe is my favorite!

By mk
September 28, 2014 11:26 PM

Stella Thisbe is my favorite, then Sophie Alice and Rowen Olivia. I am not really a fan of Liv and Bea as a full name. I prefer Olivia and Beatrice. And I don't really like Birdie at all, sorry. Flip it to Eloise Birdie and it works well. It would work as a nickname for Bridget and Elizabeth. I can see it for Beatrice as well.

Other nickname sounding names that I prefer: Sadie, Millie, Josie, Maisie

September 29, 2014 4:24 AM

I like Liv Clementine - Liv is more serious than Birdie or Bea, to me, and as it also has a long history as an independent given name, I tend not to think of it as equally nicknamey.It's my favorite of your choices as written.

Stella Thisbe and Sophie Alice are my next favorites in your combos as selected. Sophie Alice is a little more buttoned up than your other choices. Stella Thisbe is whimsical but in a way that feels suitable to many personality types.

I also like Bea, but much more as a nickname -- as such, I think Thisbe ___, nicknamed Bea, is totally my favorite plan -- good catch, previous posters!

Birdie I wouldn't recommend as a first name choice - it just doesn't have the flexibility to accomodate all personality types to the extent that your other names do. I very much enjoy it, but it's edging towards a "manic pixie dreamgirl" name to me -- so I'd much prefer it as a nickname. Assuming you are not giving birth to a Zooey Deschanel character, I think it's better to put something else on the birth certificate to allow for greater future variability... or to relegate it to middle name status, where it mostly collapses down to the B. initial (again with the Bea).

I would find Rowen, nicknamed Winnie just fine except that, as others have mentioned, it would make me assume that Harper must certainly be a girl as well. If this doesn't bother you, then I think it's a fine choice. (Also, how obvious Winnie is as a nickname probably has a lot to do with accent - consider your local dialect!) If you're using it chiefly as a route to Winnie, would you consider Rowena, Guinevere or Winifred? I think Guinevere is the best combination of having the sounds that lead to Winnie and matching the feel of the other names you like, though the spelling is different.


September 29, 2014 10:52 AM

In assorted medieval romances Guinevere's name is also given as Wanore, Waynor, Wenneveria among many other variantss.  Christopher Bruce's compilation of Arthurian names is very comprehensive.  For those looking for "unique" and romantic names to resurrect and for those who just want to browse themselves back to the world of knights and ladies and magic, it's the place to go.  http://gorddcymru.org/twilight/camelot/bruce_dictionary/index_g.htm

September 29, 2014 11:27 AM

While we're on the topic of Thisbe, can someone tell me whether it's pronounced with the -th in "the" or the -th in "third?" It's a name I've only seen in writing, never heard.

September 29, 2014 12:34 PM

In the Shakespearean productions I've seen/been in, it's more like third--the thi- of thistle, rather than this--and then IZ-bee.

September 29, 2014 1:05 PM

I know intellectually that Liv can be a full name, but it still _feels_ truncated. (Dunno why: it's exactly the same length as Eve.) I don't know how annoying it would get to keep explaining that no, it's not short for Olivia or anything else. I actually think Livia would be an excellent fit with the siblings, although again, confusion with highly-popular Olivia may get irksome.

Birdie is not a name I'd recommend as a full name. As another poster wrote, it's just not flexible enough in terms of applicable personality types. Also, compared to her brothers, it just seems too lightweight. This doesn't mean that you can't use it as a family nickname: it's the sort of endearment-name that can apply without regard to the actual name (see the children's novel _Catherine, called Birdy_), although it'd be especially fun for a bird-derived or -sounding name, like Robin, Wren, or Lark.

Bea is not my cup of tea on two fronts: I keep wanting to say it as two syllables (bay-uh or beh-uh), and it just feels too nicknamey. It'd be fine as a nickname for a more substantial birth certificate name; my favorite is Beatrice or Beatrix, but it'd work for Thisbe or Barbara (Barbie -> Bee) or Roberta (Bobbie -> Bee), or any name with a 'b' in it, really.

I like Stella for you. It feels current-but-old, like your boys' names.

Like other posters, I would assume siblings named Harper and Rowen were the same gender. With Zachary and August added, I'd guess girl for Harper and Rowen, but I wouldn't be at all certain -- I've encountered too many comments that August feels feminine (because the other common month names are, I guess). Would your husband go for Rowena instead?

Sophie is the little dog down the street, so I find it hard to assess the name objectively. Even without the canine association, though, it feels nicknamey. (Yes, I know it's the full name in French, but we're speaking English...) Also, like Liv, the confusion with one of the most popular names for girls nowadays (Sophia/Sofia) may get annoying. Any interest in Sylvia instead?

September 29, 2014 6:31 PM

Congrats! A few months ago I gave birth to a baby girl after three boys. Your sibset feels vaguely literary to me, so I like more literary names for your girl, as well as the slightly offbeat vibe you have going. (Even though no single name in your set is actually quirky. It's something about the sum, not the parts.)

Everyone else has already voiced their issues with Liv and Bea, and the Harper/Rowen gender issue. I'd like to promote Rowena. I was going to claim it as "literary" because of Rowena Ravenclaw, one of the four Hogwarts founders and she of the diadem, but apparently the name is also a character in "Ivanhoe." But the most common pronunciation I know (row-AYN-uh) does not promote Winnie as a nn,

My fave is Thisbe, despite it rhyming with frisbee (I don't mind, but I can see a relative making a joke), because it has mythological roots, used by both Ovid and Shakespeare, and is like Thisby (same pronunciation), the British island setting of the terrific YA novel, "The Scorpio Races."

September 29, 2014 8:36 PM

Rowena is pronounced Roh-EE-nah.  I have never heard row-AYN-uh, and I have heard the name pronounced a lot by many people (mostly academics).  The name first appears in Geoffrey of Monmouth where Rowena is the daughter of Hengist. He and his brother Horsa were the first Saxon mercenaries hired by the Romano-British leader Vortigern to stave off attacks by the Picts and Scots.  Sir Walter Scott centuries later used the name in Ivanhoe.  Rowena may in part be derived from 'wynn' (joy), so there's your Winnie.  Rowina is an alternate spelling, so that's even more Winnie.

September 29, 2014 9:02 PM

Like Miriam, I've only ever heard Rowena pronounced with an /ee/ sound in the middle syllable. I can't even force myself to say it as /row-AYN-uh/. I could *maybe* consider a /roe-WHEN-ah/ pronunciation (since that's technically what that spelling would produce if we were to ignore the Great English Vowel Shift) but I've never actually heard it that way.

September 29, 2014 10:08 PM

I've heard all of the pronunciations mentioned, which is odd considering that the name is not exactly common. Additionally, I've even heard ROH-when-uh, stressing the first syllable, so it's the male name with the -a tacked on. The people saying the name have had different nationalities (Aussie, Irish, English, Canadian, American), so I just figured it had regional differences.

Something to consider if one likes the name. I nixed a few names because I didn't want to spend decades correcting people for my preferred pronunciation.

September 30, 2014 4:33 PM

I don't know that I've ever met anyone named this, but I've at least contemplated both /row-EE-nuh/ and /roe-WHEN-ah/--personally, I think the latter sounds prettier. I've seen it spelled Rowenna, presumably to encourage this pronunciation--I wonder if Rowynna would be more "authentic" given the presumed etymology.

September 29, 2014 9:46 PM

Others have made some great points, but I just want to bask in the delicious glow of your name style :-) Your boys' names are decidedly literary, but also classy-cool. I think it's fine to have names that are literary by way of being poetic, which your names are, some in sound, and some in imagery. I am going to list my fave names in your list, rather than favorite combos:

Liv: I love this name, don't think it feels incomplete, but also love Livia, too. Livvy is a cute nickname either way!

Clementine: One of my absolute favorite names. Would be great as a first name.

Birdie is cute, but as others have said, it's just not versatile enough, and the names it is a nn for I'm not crazy about: Bernadette, Bertha, or even Beatrice/trix or Elizabeth - they just aren't cool enough to be in your brood, in my opinion.

Eloise is a lovely name. A friend of mine just named his daughter Loie, which could be cool nn for this, along with others. 

Juniper is another absolute favorite of mine. It's just kind of the perfect name. I would totally move this to the first name spot. Bea doesn't do it for me.

Stella, Olivia, and Sophie are just not unique enough for you, in my opinion.

But Thisbe is pretty awesome. 

I am not a fan of Rowen or Rowena at all. Especially when you have so many other amazing names here!

Alice is okay, too, another children's literary reference (along with Beatrix Potter and Eloise). 

I guess if I had to pick a combo, i'd do Juniper Liv or Juniper Livia, Juniper Thisbe, Clementine Liv, Clementine Livia, Clementine Thisbe, or Thisbe Juniper. 

I will try to think of some other ideas tomorrow :-)


October 2, 2014 8:58 PM

Thank you all so much! Your input has been very beneficial! We've decided to back of Rowen completely; my husband is a little upset, but he'll get over it! Lol. We're also not big fans of Rowena... Something about the "wee" sound. Birdie we have also decided to reserve as a family nickname--you're right, it's entirely too nicknamey for a grown woman. As for the others, Beatrix has replaced Bea, Juniper is in limbo, Sophie Alice has been axed, and we're still holding Liv Clementine and Stella Thisbe as is. My husband does not like Clementine as much as I do, but if it weren't for that, I would definitely consider it for her first name! 

thanks again for all the input! It means so much to us! 

October 2, 2014 9:40 PM

Oh, good. I love Beatrix, although it would partially be as an excuse to have Trixie as a nickname. ;-) I meant, but forgot, to say in my post that I like Clementine, too. GL!

October 3, 2014 11:04 PM

LOL, my MIL calls my daughter Trixie because...she was kind of wiggly during diaper changes as a baby? I think? Something about that meant she was tricksy, I believe, and the name kind of stuck for her (Grandma, not my daughter--no one else calls her that).

By EVie
October 2, 2014 11:54 PM

I adore Beatrix, and it would give you the options of either Bea or Birdie as a nickname. That is by far my favorite choice for you, given that it allows you so much flexibility. I really like Juniper as well, and Thisbe is just super cool. So Beatrix Juniper or Beatrix Thisbe would be my vote (and I can't decide which I like better). Beatrix Liv and Beatrix Clementine would both be really nice names as well, if you want to swap things around. I've never been a fan of Stella, but it gets discussed an awful lot around here, so I think I'm in the minority.

October 3, 2014 11:02 PM

I, too, love Beatrix, and think it sounds good with many of your other names as middles--I could definitely see Birdie as a nn, too. I agree with you about the 'wee' sound in Rowena--have you considered the Rowenna pronunciation?

October 3, 2014 10:06 PM

Liv has always been a favorite of mine but I always felt it wasn't substantial enough. I'd use Livia or Olive. I also love Stella. 

October 8, 2014 12:13 AM

I agree your boys names all have a literary sound.  Beatrix Clementine would go right along with that.

By Cara
October 9, 2014 1:25 AM

I was just writing in to speak up for Rowen. Its a great strong name for a daughter, and what's the point of androgynous names if you can't use them on either gender?  (Well, Rowen might be typically male, but I would categorize it as androgynous based on similarity to Rowan.)

Yes there might be some mistaken assumptions about the genders of brother Harper and sister Rowen, but mostly that will be due to each child's androgynous name and not due to their sibling's name.  So if you like Rowen for a daughter, I wouldn't let her older brother's name stop you.

I like Stella and Beatrix as well. 

Clementine is too old west for me, Liv and Birdie seem like informal nicknames, and Bea, well, I much prefer Beatrix and it lets you use Bea for short if you like it.