Baby Girl Name Help!!

Im due with my second daughter in just 2 weeks and am still debating names!!

Which would you choose of these two?

Natalie Aurelia or Aurelia Ann

Thank you!!

 

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July 7, 2017 4:41 AM

Hi Savannah! Congratulations on your soon to be born girl! Girls are very fun, I have 2 of my own, Lena and Nia and expecting twins in August, Luna and Skye! 

I love your names, but prefer Aurelia Ann! It's so sweet and unique name, both First and Middle Name go well together, even better than Natalie Aurelia. :)

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July 7, 2017 8:10 AM

Thank you so much for the feedback and congratulations to you too! 

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July 7, 2017 9:49 AM

Both are lovely, but Aurelia Ann is particularly beautiful!

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July 7, 2017 4:33 PM

Glad you like it, thanks :-)

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July 7, 2017 12:33 PM

Can I vote for Aurelia Natalie?  I prefer Aurelia but Ann is so dull as a middle name.  (I would go for Aurelia Ann if the combinations have to remain as is).

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July 7, 2017 1:39 PM

Haha sure. I hadn't actually considered Natalie as a middle name.  I felt like Aurelia needed "grounding" with a short classic middle name bc it's such an uncommon name.

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July 7, 2017 4:08 PM

Anothr vote for Aurelia Natalie if I can? Aurelia is so gorgeous And Natalie grounds it well. If I have to pick as is, I pick Aurelia Ann.

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July 7, 2017 4:40 PM

Can I make it Aurelia Ann-with-an-e? Aurelia Anne? Maybe it's just because I've always loved Anne of Green Gables, but Ann looks so incomplete to me. I also love Aurelia Natalie. To me Natalie is a classic without being "plain" in any way, so it still grounds Aurelia nicely. Some other classic "grounding" middle name options for Aurelia are Jane, Mary, Elizabeth, Caroline, Margaret, and Catherine/Katherine.

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July 7, 2017 7:27 PM

Well I will be the odd one out and say of your choices I prefer Natalie Aurelia, I think that's a beautiful name and has a lovely flow to it. I don't really like Aurelia Ann as it kind of runs together when I say it out loud, I think it's too many a's (although I accept that middle name 'flow' is really ot a big deal). I do also like Aurelia Natalie, not quite as much as having Natalie first but almost, I think those names go well whichever order you put them in. 

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July 8, 2017 12:50 AM

I like Natalie Aurelia. I love Natalie. It's a beautiful classic that isn't overdone anymore.

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July 8, 2017 3:36 AM

Thanks for the vote! They both are pretty, tough call!!

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July 8, 2017 1:43 AM

Natalie is a beautiful name, but it's just a name - it's not very exciting to me. Aurelia, on the other hand, is a beautiful name that ticks all the boxes: easy to spell, easy to pronounce with very little ambiguity (just the usual English "is -lia one syllable or two?" question), derives from a word for "golden", and it hits that elusive Holy Grail of naming: it's unusual, but everyone has heard of it and knows that it's a name. Of course, we're not the first to discover this fact, and Aurelia is currently on a seriously steep upswing, going from not on the charts in 2010 to #673 in 2016, but that's still way way less frequently used than former-top-20 Natalie, even though the latter name has been on the decline since 2007.

("On paper", both names have the potential to end up somewhat date-stamped, in the sense that their recent peak popularity [or potential peak popularity, in the case of Aurelia] is orders of magnitude above any previous peak; but they have enough history of use that I don't think it'll be a problem.)

Like someone else upthread, I much prefer Anne-with-an-e, for no logical reason that I can name, so if I must choose from your combinations, I'd go with Aurelia Anne. However, I love the suggestion of Aurelia Natalie, so if we're allowed to mix and match, that's what I'd go with.

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July 8, 2017 2:14 AM

Aurelia actually has a lot of pronunciation ambiguity. Emphasis on the first or second syllable? How many syllables? First syllable like 'are', 'or', or 'our'? Second syllable like 'eel', 'ail', or 'ell'? In fact, I'm not even sure what the English default really is.

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July 8, 2017 1:03 PM

Regarding the stress, I don't think it's possible to put it on the first syllable unless you adopt a Hungarian accent; clearly, you put the stress on the second syllable. Regarding the vowels, those are the sorts of pronunciation ambiguities that people don't even notice, like that scene in The Little Mermaid that you're fond of citing. (Sebastian says /aah-ree-ell/, Prince "repeats" it as /air-ree-ell/, and unless it's pointed out, nobody watching that scene notices that they didn't say the same thing. Well, nobody except my linguist sister, that is.)

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July 8, 2017 4:20 PM

I noticed the different pronunciations of Ariel in The Little Mermaid even when I was a little kid. One time my mom pronounced Ariel's name the way Sebastian does (AR-ee-el), and I precociously corrected her, "Only Sebastian pronounces it that way because he's Jamaican. Everyone else says her name AIR-ee-el." Apparently, in my toddler brain, I thought it was only Jamaicans that would pronounce it AR-ee-el, because only Sebastian did in the movie.

To the OP, as long as you like all the various pronunciations of Aurelia, I think it's fine to just be flexible and allow for whatever pronunciations people use naturally rather than correcting people or insisting on one specific pronunciation.

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July 8, 2017 3:35 AM

TheOtherHungerian:

Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply. Funny you say that Aurelia is easy to pronounce bc I actually can see a lot of people having an issue with it, which contributes to my reservations with the name. I do love the meaning behind it though much more than Natalie, which means Christmas Day! Not exactly appropriate for a July baby ha!! 

 

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July 8, 2017 10:43 AM

My grandson's pre-school bff was AurAlia, spelled that way because her parents wanted Au-rail-ia, and they still didn't get that pronunciation. It's a beautiful name, but you would need to be chill with varying pronunciations.

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July 8, 2017 12:17 PM

Definitely agree and I think most pronunciations are similar enough that they don't bother me. Did your grandson's friend have a nickname?

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July 8, 2017 1:38 PM

NONE of my grandson's cohort uses a nickname, except for one little guy who goes by initials. They are always William, Stephen, Gregory, and so forth. BTW he and his friends are rising second-graders.

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July 8, 2017 5:44 PM

I'm surprised and wonder if that's a rising trend? When I was growing up, everyone was nickname happy. I assumed that if I named my daughter Aurelia that people would automatically want to shorten it because it's 4 syllables. I think Natalie is less likely to get a nickname since it's a bit shorter with 3 syllables. 

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July 8, 2017 6:52 PM

Nicknaming has essentially gone out of style among the newest generation. That said, of the two names, I think that Natalie is much more likely to be nicknamed than Aurelia, since Nat/Gnat is so obvious an option. Aurelia will in all likelihood not be nicknamed unless you give her a nickname and introduce her that way, or unless the family comes up with a pet name like Bunny or Kitten or some such not related to her given name that sticks.

My grandson's name is Elliott, and he is never nicknamed (well, I call him Bunny, but that's just me). However, the other day I called him El, and he gave me a withering look and said, "My name is Elliott."

Also judging from my experience with the kid, name teasing has also gone out of style. The current name pool is now so large and so culturally and linguistically diverse that kids don't consider any name so unusual as to remark on. In fact, the only one who has ever teased Elliott about his name is his father, my son. He called the kid Smelliott, and I told my son to grow up.

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July 9, 2017 8:19 PM

I hope you're right and that the nickname trend has died down in my area too. I much prefer for my child to be called their given name and not a nickname. Obviously that can't be controlled as they get older and friends give their own nicknames, but when they are younger, I think it can work. My daughter now is named Veronica and nobody calls her anything but Veronica except my in laws who culturally always abbreviate names so they got a pass ;-) However, people have asked if she has a nickname and I just say no, she goes by Veronica. 

Oh my, Smelliot is terrible! Glad you put him in his place! 

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July 9, 2017 8:38 PM

I was vigilant in insisting my son be called Edward, and I was successful in that endeavor until his teens. Then he chose to be Ed, and he publishes his books as Ed. Everyone he has met since college calls him Ed, but those who knew him as a child and those who know him only through me call him Edward. I call him Edward, never mind he once complained I was muddying his brand. He has given up trying to get me to use Ed, ain't happening. My DIL once asked my grandson in his pre-school days what his daddy's name was, and he said Honey, so there's that.

I think throughout the US in general automatic nicknaming is out of style. In the UK though it is common to use nicknames as the full legal name, Freddie, Charlie, Alfie, and so forth.

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July 10, 2017 11:02 AM

Are you in the US? What area? Edward is a wonderful classic name for a boy so I can see why you insisted he be called by his full name. Too bad it didn't eventually stick with him, but to each his own. I hope my current daughter doesn't want to be called Ronnie eventually since that's a common nickname for Veronica and I hate it! But I realize I'll have to live with it if so!

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July 10, 2017 11:14 AM

I'm in the US and have lived all over the country, currently in Las Vegas. Edward was named for my deceased father who went by Ed/Eddie. I insisted on Edward for my son to keep a distinction between the two in my mind.

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July 10, 2017 11:50 AM

But he also grew up in a generation of nicknames, not the current one where it's much less automatic. I mean, I assume that teenagers still give nicknames to their friends, but that's not the same thing as kids who ask teachers to use a nickname and basically never use their full names. 

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July 10, 2017 12:52 PM

I'm a little confused about which nickname-y generation you are citing, my father's or my son's. In my school days, under no circumstances would a teacher ever call a student by a nickname, 100% legal birth certificate name.

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July 10, 2017 3:04 PM

I believe that your son is around my age, and when I was in school it wasn't at all odd for someone never to use their full name except on diplomas and other such formal occasions. 

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July 10, 2017 3:21 PM

My son's buddies did use nicknames like Andy, Chris, Ben, Davy, but whether their teachers used the nicknames in class I don't know. BTW brothers Chris and Davy have creative careers, Chris in particular often shows up in national media, and they are still professionally known as Chris and Davy. Edward's adult friends are Dave, Matt, Sunny, and the like. As for age in exactly one month my son will turn 38.

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July 10, 2017 6:55 PM

I think you're around my grandparents' ages, Miriam, and my maternal grandfather always went by Billy in school except for with one teacher. This one teacher insisted on using all her students' full names no matter what. My grandfather disliked the shrill way she said "William," and so he has never liked his full name since. My maternal grandmother has always gone by a nickname that is unrelated to her name and, as far as I know, teachers called her by her nickname. My paternal grandmother has never used a nickname, and my paternal grandfather goes by a nickname for his middle name, though I'm not sure if he used the nickname as a child or not.

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July 8, 2017 1:22 PM

I dunno, spelling it Auralia makes me want to pronounce it as aural (like the word) + ia, i.e. precisely the opposite of the intended pronunciation.

(I'm reminded of the friends who chose a nonstandard spelling of a classic name so that it would "contain" their intended nickname... except that generations of bearers of that name have used that nickname without feeling any need to change the spelling of the full name, and --the kicker-- they've ended up using an entirely different nickname. So now their son is hitting school and having trouble spelling his own name because the teachers always want to correct what he writes -- I don't blame them, it just looks wrong --, all for no good purpose.)

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July 8, 2017 1:53 PM

That's why their altered spelling didn't get them where they wanted to go.

This reminds me of a piece written by Leonard Pitts, a nationally syndicated, award-winning columnist, explaining why his daughter was named Onjel. Actually the intended name was Angele, but he and his wife felt they needed a phonetic spelling to insure the desired pronunciation, hence Onjel. First, Onjel doesn't necessarily reflect the correct pronunciation of Angele, and, second, what circles does a person with Pitt's background travel in that people would not know how to say Angele. My one-time handyman who never graduated high school had a daughter Angele, and he knew how to both say it and spell it.

My guess is that choosing an altered spelling to reflect desired pronunciation is likely to be counterproductive.

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July 8, 2017 2:16 PM

I love Aurelia Anne, but fully admit that the reason is the main character in The Ordinary Princess by M. M. Kaye. Princess Amy's full name is Amethyst Alexandra Augusta Araminta Adelaide Aurelia Anne.

Since middle names are hardly ever used in every day life, it really depends on whether you like saying Natalie or Aurelia best.

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July 8, 2017 4:16 PM

I want to read this book now solely because of that fantastic name!!

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July 8, 2017 5:41 PM

Wow what a name! I had never heard of the book before!

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July 10, 2017 6:28 AM

It really is a great novella. I reread it every year or so. Kaye used wonderful names. The fairy godmother is Crustacea!

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July 8, 2017 7:36 PM

I much prefer Aurelia myself, but I think you have to decide how much the pronunciation ambiguity would bother you--correcting people or just letting "wrong" (to you) pronunciations go. If I saw the name, I would default to something like "oh-RAIL-ee-ah" but not sure if that's what you intend.

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July 9, 2017 8:23 PM

I think your pronunciation is close enough! I realized that if I pronounce the name different ways, to the ear, they all sound similar enough that it doesn't bother me. Good thing bc she would likely get a number of different pronunciations!

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By Lexy
July 9, 2017 1:07 AM

Out of the two names I like Aurelia Ann the most. However I would spell Ann as Anne. I do like the suggestion of Aurelia Natalie as well. 

What you need to decide is which name would you feel more upset about not using. Either Aurelia or Natalie then go from there.

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July 9, 2017 8:23 PM

Thanks for your feedback :-)

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July 15, 2017 3:35 AM

Natalie or Natalia by a mile