Celtic, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, German influences for boy or girl name

Here goes! We would just like to receive as much feedback as possible. I have starred our favorites, but we would really like to choose two middle names for each sex. Last name is Kinnamon. Let the games begin...


Desmond Adrian*











Rowan (male or female)


Astrid Noelle*








Thank you so much <3


By Tana
April 5, 2013 12:47 PM

I don't know if popularity matters to you, but your male names are a similar style to names I've seen in posts made here by people who care a lot about it.  So one thing that jumped out at me about the male list was that Adrian, Sebastian, Liam, Ethan, and Levi were all top 100 names in 2011, and Declan is top 200 and rising quickly.

Konrad with a K seems odd to me. Is there a reason not to just go with Conrad? I wouldn't even ask how to spell Conrad, I'd just assume C.

Would you use Desmond Adrian and Astrid Noelle as double names? If so, I think that would be hard to enforce. If they're first middle combos, then I think both sound fine.

I would expect a Rowan or a Rory with a brother with any of your male names to be a boy.

I would expect a Mars or an Orion to be a boy, to the point that I can't see either on a girl. Mars, especially, seems very masculine, possibly because not only was the mythological figure male, but there's also the phrase "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus" that still get used fairly often around me.

I've never heard of Lowen and a quick search didn't turn up anything about it's use as a first name. Where does it come from?

I like Nora, but, if popularity is an issue, it is in the top 200 and seems to be rising quickly.

Zosia looks pretty, but I'm never sure how to pronounce it.

April 5, 2013 1:27 PM

Quick response, which I really appreciate!

Desmond Adrian and Astrid Noelle are just my favorite combinations at the moment.

Konrad with a K for no strong reason - I prefer the look of it and we have ties with our German heritage.

I really do love the name Lowen. We have a female friend with the name. With an umlaut over the "o" it is German for lion.

Again, thank you for taking time to put in your valued opinion. 

April 5, 2013 4:03 PM

I like Desmond Adrian & Astrid Noelle.

I think with your list of potential sibling names, Rowan, Rory & Orion all feel more boy to me.  I'd be surprised to see a combo of say, Declan & Rory where Rory was a girl.  I'd also put Lowen in this group-as a person's name it really reminds me of Lowell, which makes it read more boy.  Mars also feels more masculine to me, though I personally don't like it as a name at all.  The god of war connotation strikes me as overly aggressive to use on a baby.

Konrad is fine (it's my uncle-in-law's name), but I do think you'll have a lot of problems with the K spellling.  Though, I guess if people can get used to Khloe Kardashian, they could adjust to Konrad.

Of your boy names, my personal favorites are Declan, Rowan & Alasdair (though I slightly prefer Alistair).  2nd favorite group would probably include Desmond, Ronan & Soren.  I also really like Liam, Ethan & Levi,  but only if popularity doesn't concern you.

Of your girl names, I like Astrid & Nora the most.  The others either feel masculine as mentioned above, or just aren't my style.

By mk
April 5, 2013 10:54 PM

For girls I like Nora best, then Astrid. I like Rory if you use it as a nickname for Aurora (I know two Auroras who go by Rory). I do not recommend using Mars for a girl (or using Orion). I suggest going with something like Lyra instead.

For boys I like Soren, Desmond, Ronan, Sebastian, and Liam. The Konrad spelling doesn't bother me since it is the spelling  that's used in other countries, like Germany.

April 9, 2013 2:34 AM

I just looked at the name Lyra on this site, and Aria was recommended, which is a beautiful name, too. Thank you for the lead!

April 6, 2013 4:48 AM

We have a lot of overlap in taste, a great number of the names on your list are also on my list and I have a daughter Astrid, so I obvioulsy love that name!

From your boys list Piers, Soren, Alasdair and Conrad are on my list, so they are probably my favourites. I'm also very fond of Desmond and Ronan. I do like Declan, Liam and Levi but they are all hugely popular in my area and I know several of each. The same with Ethan and Sebastian. Rowan isn't that popular around me and I do like it, just not quite as much as some of the others.

I have no issue with the Konrad spelling. I personally prefer the Conrad spelling but Konrad just reads German to me, and I wouldn't blink an eyelid at it.

From your girls list Astrid Noelle is gorgeous and I'm a huge fan. I also love Ondine and Zosia and have them on my list so will give the thumbs up to those. Nora is another long time favourite, it's not hugely popular but probably more popular than Astrid, Ondine and Zosia.

I'm not a huge fan of Rory or Rowan on girls. Rory as a nickname for Aurora fits your style better and Rowan reads male to me with most of your other choices.  Lowen has a similar issue (although I note your reasons for liking it). Maybe Lowen could work as a middle with some of the other names? Mars I don't care for particularly and definitely reads male. Maybe you could use it as one of the boys middle names.



April 9, 2013 2:36 AM

Chimu, happy to read your response. Thank you for the insight and suggestions!

April 9, 2013 2:25 AM

This is all really great feedback. What a responsive crowd! I do love the suggestion of Rory used as a nickname for Aurora. Beautiful name. I hadn't even thought of this as a possibility...



By hyz
April 9, 2013 10:39 AM

I would echo everything said so far, about the nice list of boy names, and about some of the girl names sounding masculine, etc.  I think Desmond Adrian and Astrid Noelle are both good names.  My personal favorites from your lists are Alasdair (or Alastair) and Rowan for boys, and Astrid or Nora for girls.  My second tier are Soren, Ronan, and Levi for boys (all very nice), and Ondine and Zosia for girls (a bit more daring, but nice).  Really, there aren't any I dislike on your boy list, although Liam and Ethan feel a bit dull to me (I must know 7 or 8 Liams in my immediate toddler/preschooler circle, so it gets old).

If I were naming two kids just from your lists, I think they would be Alastair Piers K. and Nora Ondine K.  

April 9, 2013 11:21 PM

Great! I appreciate the first and middle combinations you listed. After researching so long, it can be difficult to make pairings. Thanks, hyz.

April 14, 2013 9:10 PM

I know it's not on your list, but what about Solon Jude for a boy? 


For your girl, I like the name Nora.  Mars, Lowen, Orion, and Rory all sound like boy names to me.  I don't like Ondine because when I first glance at it, my mind automatically reads iodine.  And Zosia just sounds weird to me.  My grandmother was named Zettie, and she absolutely hated it.  She made all of her children and grandchildren promise they would never use it!