I have, who has?

I've got three nicknames that Finn and I like that just don't seem to fit as a given name.

They are: Lio/Leo, Gus, and Otto.

Does anyone have any given names they'd like to suggest that could work?  We both like Augustus but feel it's very close to Atticus.  That's not a dealbreaker necessarily but I think Gus is the main appeal here.  August is slightly better.  I tried Augustin and he wasn't a fan.  For Otto, I tried Elliott but that didn't work.  I think he MIGHT consider Octavian but I don't like that as well.  Can we just use Otto?  I feel like that's good for a baby/toddler/child but I'm struggling with it on a grown man with nothing to fall back on.


Also opinions: Rafferty vs. Raphael?

Someone suggested Rafferty a few posts back and I love it.  Finn is warming to it; he doesn't hate Raphael but agrees that the Ninja Turtle issue might be a deal breaker.  It's funny because  I've stopped caring about that, so naturally now it's an issue for him.  *sigh*  I've never seen, heard of, or met anyone named Rafferty.  It still has similar nicknames to Raphael  (Raff/Rafe) and I think it fits with the rest of the clan.  

Girl list continues to grow; he threw out Delilah a few days back and I really like that too.  I don't think I like it most/more than others on the list but I could envision it as a middle name...Genevieve Delilah, anyone?



January 24, 2019 11:29 PM

Found this caught in the spam filter and am giving it a boost .

And I've seen Otto as the complete name on grown men and didn't give it a second thought .

According to Behind the Name, "This was the name of four kings of Germany, starting in the 10th century with Otto I, the first Holy Roman emperor, who was known as Otto the Great."

If it's good enough for him...

January 25, 2019 1:25 AM

Leonard, Leopold, Gustav, Fergus.  I think Augustus and Atticus are too close,  I'd avoid double up of letters.  Otto is a name in its own right.  I would about Raphael and the Ninja turtles.  I think Rafferty is cool.  Genevieve Delilah  is good

January 25, 2019 2:03 AM


Lionel, Leonard, Leonardo


elliot is a gorgeous name but another nickname for it could be Eli


Gus - absolutely love this nickname!





 As for girls names, Genevive is also one of my faves!

delia, darcy, dana, darla, Darlene and dolly are all gorgeous, old fashioned alternatives for delilah



January 25, 2019 3:13 AM

Otto is a full complete name. I have several just-Ottos in my family, from grown men to so elderly as to be deceased. I think it travels fine through all stages of life!

I slightly prefer Raphael but I think Rafferty is also a fine choice!  

January 25, 2019 3:21 AM

For reference, there were more boys named Otto born in 2017 than Scott or Otis.

Other choices: surnames like Abbott, Prescott, Potter. Going a little more dramatic: Lancelot, Aristotle (27 boys!), Panagiotis (22 boys!),  Timoteo (16 boys and totally a "why not" name after the smash hit of Mateo)... and then some nouns like Pilot, Cotton (17 boys!), Riot... and some new to me options like Otoniel (a varient of Othniel?), Sotirios, Ayotunde, Sotero, Theotis.

None of this is probably what you were hoping for, but I always love trawling the lower levels of usage. It's like traveling to a new planet *every single time*.

January 26, 2019 12:55 PM

Mmmmm, I don't know, I could get behind Abbott and Aristotle pretty easily, though I think Aristotle Dillon sounds kind of schmoozy.  

I agree, why is Timoteo now up there with Mateo?  It LOOKS much more clunky, but when you say it it flows.  

I'm not about Riot as a name; however I can absolutely seeing a little Riot fitting in with the rest of my clan.  And if this babe is anything like Ike, Riot would be appropriate.  :)

January 25, 2019 1:46 PM

LOVE Genevieve and I think Genevieve Delilah is a fun, unexpected combo. 

Re: Leo, we have an NPR correspondant down here in NC named Leoneda (Leo-knee-da) and I absolutely adore this name (and her reporting). Could be a fun way to use Leo even if you have a girl! 

January 25, 2019 11:27 PM

I agree! She is a great reporter (says another Triangle resident!).

And I also agree with lucubratrix that Otto wears well on any age. But my favorite on your list is Raphael.

January 25, 2019 5:40 PM

I know a number of just-Ottos! One was just born last month, but others are older. I think Otis could become Otto, if that feels more complete.

January 25, 2019 6:20 PM

Leonidas seems your style... but it is a 3rd -s ending.


I prefer Raphael to Rafferty.

January 26, 2019 12:57 PM

Leonidas jumped to my mind when I read Leoneda!  

January 25, 2019 7:08 PM

Elio and Leon are two of my top favourite boys names, but I'm not sure they're really the kind of thing you'd be looking for? The only other leo options I can think of are the obvious-Leopold/Leonardo etc-which I'm sure you've already considered (although if the issue with Elliott was that Otto didn't seem like a reasonable nickname I'd point out that Lio could work from that). 

All the Gus options I can think of have also already been suggested so I will just say that I have a soft spot for both Angus and Fergus.

Otto absolutely reads as a complete name to me, and I have no problem picturing it on a teenager or grown man. 

I much prefer Rafferty to Raphael but then Raphael is really NMS. 

Genevieve Delilah is a fun study in contrasts, I like it.

By Eko
January 25, 2019 8:20 PM

Two more for Gus: Gusten and Magnus

Gottfried could work for Otto, but I agree that Otto is a name in its own right.

January 26, 2019 12:59 PM

I like Magnus!  We have friends with a Magnus who is about 5 months old now!  They live in Japan (the husband is in the Air Force) so I don't think there'd be an overlap issue.  I'll have to table this one!

January 25, 2019 9:27 PM

My favourite full name for Gus is Fergus - but you could also use Ferguson. That fits in with your 3-syllable sibset, but has quite distinct sounds to your other boys.


I think Otto could be a reasonable nn for a name like Augustus also - but then, if you use Augustus, you'd probably prefer Gus. Othello is another option for Otto.


I really like Rafferty for you!


And for Leo - Galileo? I think that actually works nicely with your boys' names.

January 25, 2019 10:56 PM

maybe these could work for Gus/Ott/leo

Ferguson, Gustav Leopold Julio Natilio Otilio Lionel Ottavio Otis Scott Talbot Prescott Wilmot Othon Leoton Othon Lancelot Lothain Othmar Dermot Cabot Bernot Botham Garrot Jarrot Jothan Junot Bardot Booth Gotama Kota Lothair Otso Makoto Loton Otha Manot Ocelotl Piotr Roth Pilot Timoteo Jeannot Jerrott Jothan Jotham Loriot Lotario McDermott Melilot Northcote Otello Otfried Othniel Othno Oton Ottone Panayioti Pierrot Potnmeroy Potter Pyotr Quixotr Ravijot Shlomot Shooter Sinott Siothran Othran Talcott Timot Wescott Vilgot Woolcott Wolcott Zot Tymoteusz

January 26, 2019 1:12 PM

Ooooh this is a great list!  I really appreciate all the thought you put into these lists!  I like Lionel a lot.  I hadn't thought about Talbott either but that's kind of a neat idea!

January 26, 2019 1:10 PM

Hmmm...between Galileo and Aristotle (mentioned above) I am feeling compelled to reseach more super Greek names.  Rafferty grows on me more every day but I just don't know if I like it more than Raphael.  

I like Fergus too but Finn wrinkled his nose, which doesn't necessarily mean it's a hard no, but it would take some convincing.  

Finn and I were talking about it the other day and he mentioned Ottilie for a girl, then joked that we could use Otto universally.  I think Ottilie is really cute but am definitely not down for using Otto as a nickname for a girl.  Then we both laughed because we don't NEED more girl names on the list; we both agree that we could be happy using any one of our girl names.  

In some ways, Otto is hard with our last name.  Earlier this week we agreed on Gideon Otto for a whole three hours before we realized that then his initials would be GOD and isn't that a lot to saddle a kid with?  *sigh*  

January 26, 2019 12:45 PM

Ha, truth!  

Thank you for rescuing this from the spam filter!  We've had some illness floating around for the past few weeks and I kind of forgot I even posted it!

January 26, 2019 6:13 PM

I was thinking of Ottilie and wondering if there was a male variation - like Ottilian. But apparently Ottilie is derived from Otto - I do wonder if Ottilian could work as a boys' name though?


I also thought of Argus (nn Gus) (maybe too close to Atticus) and Emilio (nn Lio).


I really like your name style because it's so different from what I would consider myself for boys (there's more overlap with your girl lists, I think) but you have come up with some great names.

January 26, 2019 6:24 PM

I think Ottilian is cool

January 27, 2019 3:03 AM

I went to Otto Middle School, so while it sounds complete to me I still have a hard time seeing it as a person name. I actually feel the same way about Everett, our cross-town high school rivals, and that name is taking off like a rocket, so take that with a grain of salt.

How do you feel about the Three Musketeers (or Slumdog Millionaire)? I could see Otto as a nickname for Porthos. Athos would also work, but it's probably too close to Atticus.

I like both your Raff/Rafe names, but they feel very different to me. Rafferty seems much more...raffish than Raphael. It feels like it could be the name for a slightly-disreputable adventurer (with a heart of gold), whereas Raphael-nn-Rafe is more your by-the-book hero (with a bit of an edge).

I don't have much to add to the Gus discussion--you've got a lot of good suggestions. The only thought I've had is that the Gus character on Psych was Burton Guster. Guster doesn't seem all that usable to me, but it got me thinking that you could potentially go with a wind-related full name and nickname him Gust, which could easily shorten to Gus or just sound a lot like it. I can't tell you how thrilled I would be to meet a Zephyr nn Gus(t) ;-).