Middle name for Helena

I was thinking:

Amethyst Helena - I will only do Amethyst in middle name spot.

Helena Rhoswen - it is not ideal, due to repeating -en- and -en sounds.

Helena Emmeline - due to -el- sound in both names, I will prefer something else...that doesn't have -el- sound

Helena Brunhild  or Helena Brynhild - it lacks beauty



I'm looking for something that will not screem 'American', but 'British' instead, or maybe 'European'.



November 9, 2017 3:35 PM

If you'd only do Amethyst in the middle, then aren't you asking about Helena Amethyst?

The repetition in Helena Rhoswen is actually pleasing to my ear. Because the "en" isn't stressed in either name, it acts as a subtle aural link that I like. But that sort of thing is very subject to personal preference. I'm not entirely sure how to say Rhoswen, but that doesn't really matter since it's in the middle.

Helena Emmeline I *do* find too repetitive, but not because of the repeated -el, but because of the repeated e that is stressed in both names: Helena Emmeline

November 9, 2017 5:22 PM

Well, no, I'm not asking about Helena Amethyst, since I find ending of first name and beginning of Amethyst to really bug me. But I find Amethyst Helena to be gorgeous... but it's out of my comfort zone, so I'm not sure should I put it on list or not...

Rhoswen is Welsh name...

November 9, 2017 4:51 PM


I like Emmeline best then Rhoswen - I think the sounds are far enough away to not be an issue,  lovely names



Emily Amelia Amalia Amy Naomi Miriam Abrianna Aubrianna Brenna Briellen Briohne Bridget Briony Bronte Brynn Brynlee Sabrina Gabriellen Breanne Brynna Sabrine Matilda Romilda Matilde

November 9, 2017 5:24 PM

Thank you suzanne for sugestions, I like Brynn, Bridget, Matilda and Briony, maybe not with Helena.

November 10, 2017 4:37 AM

If you want 'screams British' then I vote Guinevere (or more boldly Gwenwhyfar) or other British historical/legend names, English word-names like Rose or place-names like Chelsea, or else a distinctly Scottish, Welsh, or other British minority language (e.g. Cornish, Manx) name that is not in much use in North America (which kills Jennifer, the Cornish variant of Guinevere).  Names that would work include Fiona, Rhiannon, Cerridwen, Bronwyn, etc.  I am especially fond of Avalon, as both a British place and from a British legend (it's the fairy realm in the King ARthur tales).  Plus, I think Avalon is a stunning name.

November 10, 2017 6:40 AM

I second Rhiannon as an alternative to Rhoswen without the repeating sounds.

November 10, 2017 11:08 AM

Dislike Guinevere as fictional person ever since I read Mist of Avalon.

I like Avalon, but not enough...  Rhiannon - I never liked this one.


November 10, 2017 11:49 AM

I don't think Amethyst runs together that much with Helena, because to me Helena ends in a schwa but Amethyst begins with a stressed A-as-in-cat sound, which somehow isn't as trippy for me as some other vowel-vowel connections. You also might try out Amethyst as a first name (like give it at the coffee shop as your name) and see if it gets more comfortable. However, if you really don't think you can use Amethyst in either spot, maybe you'd like another jewel name? Helena Ruby, Helena Jewel, Helena Garnet, Helena Beryl, Helena Jade. 

Instead of Rhoswen, maybe Royse? It's another British Isles rose-name, Medieval English instead of Welsh.

When you say you want to scream 'British', who's your target audience? Modern British naming tends toward the nickname-y as a prime distinguishing characteristic from American naming (lots of the top names overlap, like Olivia, Ava, Emily, Isabella). So names like Lottie and Poppy and Millie. You can see the recent top-500 for England and Wales here.

A few other random names from somewhere between 100 & 500 on the England/Wales list that I think sound especially British and work well Helena (least popular first):

Carys, Pixie, Lilly-Mae (these hyphenated, cute names really scream "British" to me), Astrid (not actually British by origin, but still feels more British than American; also European), Saoirse (Irish Gaelic, pronounced SEER-sha), Gracie-Mae, Bella-Rose, Agnes (still not quite ripe for revival in the US, but #361 on the British list), Verity (British & Victorian), Rosalie, Lily-Mae, Isla-Rose (a twofer, since one half of the hyphenate is distinctly Scottish), Lily-Rose, Ella-Rose (OK, basically any two-syllable name with five or fewer letters hyphenated with Rose), Primrose, Esmee (also Esmae, #115, & Esme, #35), Penny, Beatrix, Edith

November 21, 2017 3:14 AM

How bout Helena Rose?