Next Name in a 4 Girl Sib-Set?

Friends,

Although not pregnant, I have always wanted to have 4 children. We currently have 3 girls and have a boy's name that we've obviously never used. I'm not sure why, but tonight, the thought of a 4th girl name - as in whether we'd have any decent contenders - popped into my mind and I can't rid myself of the angst. So, here I am.

Our girls are:

Avery Clare (Clare from my grandfather Clarence)

Sydney Cate (Cate from Great Grandmother Katherine)

Cassidy Rose (Rose from a different Great Grandmother)

Although I know what our names are considered androgenous, my DH refuses to accept this as fact. There's a male Avery in my DD's Kindergarten class (he asked me once if I asked his mom why he was given a girl's name). *sigh* Sidney has plenty of historical references and I now know of 3 people who have had boys and named them Cass.

So, my question for you, if you'll indulge me, is: What would you name a 4th girl? Our last name begins with 'M' and ends with 'R' and alliteration and rhyming names are not appealing. Middles I can work out later, but if you're inclined - I clearly one syllable and family reference is nice, but not mandatory.

Thanks and all the best!

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September 26, 2014 11:17 PM

Names that I think would go really well with your three (beautiful) girls names are:Rebecca,Caroline and Amelia if you wanted to differ away from the androgenous nature of your current names. But, if you don't want the child feeling left out I would consider maybe Lily, Mary, Riley and Hilary.  Hope this helps!! 

 

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By EVie
September 26, 2014 11:20 PM

Would you be looking for another name ending in y, since you have three already?

If not, for some reason Tamsin pops into my head, even though it isn't androgynous like the rest--it still has a sporty, tomboyish feel to me that I think fits with the others. Maybe also Kendall, if you don't mind it starting with the same sound as Cassidy.

If you want another y name, Bellamy comes to mind. I do like how, even though all three names end in y, they all have different consonants before the y, so the endings don't sound too repetitive--Bellamy would keep to that pattern.

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September 26, 2014 11:58 PM

Avery: a surname of patronymic origin, from a medieval French pronunciation of Alfred.
Sydney: either a locative surname or a survival of the medieval English feminine name Sidony. The locative surname is either a contraction of St. Denis (France), or comes from Old English for "dweller by the wide well-watered land".
Cassidy: Anglicized form of an Irish surname based on an old descriptive name meaning 'curly-haired'.

So you have patronymic, locative, and descriptive -- maybe an occupation next: Bailey?

To balance the cultures of origin (two Anglo-Norman, one Irish): Finley, Kennedy, Kerry, Reilly/Riley?

I don't know your family tree, so I will not try to suggest any middle names.

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September 27, 2014 11:50 PM

Thanks, Ladies! Greatly appreciate your very thoughtful and thorough suggestions! I've still a lot of work to do - foremost to convince DH that it'd be fine to have another and that we're not too old to do so. :) At least now, I have some hope that we can find a name that fits without the possibility of making a child feel like an outlier, nor am I 'forced' to use Lindsey or Whitney. 

Stylistically, Bailey works, but I know too many people who've used that as a pet name. Reilly is similarly popular, but still popping up on children, so I wouldn't rule it out. 

DH is Polish & Scottish. I am German, English and Native American. So far, we have 2 blond / blue girls with very fair skin and one (the middle, of course!!) with dark hair, eyes and skin. both the youngest, including Cassidy, has curly hair. :)

I'm going to keep reading, hoping to fall in love. It's a little difficult for me as my own naming conventions waiver between the southern surnames to the English/French tradition (Clara, Imogene, Corinne, etc.).

Thanks again! Best wishes to you all.

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September 28, 2014 10:23 PM

On the topic of the fourth one feeling like the odd one out: at the ice-cream store today, we met a family with four children, named J3ssa, Jack, Ju1ia, and ... De1aney. The parents said that the Js were kinda accidental, and they didn't have a fourth J name that they liked, so they just abandoned the "theme". Delaney is still an infant, so we couldn't ask her opinion. Big sister J3ssa did point out that the baby's middle name is Jane, so the siblings are aware of the break in the pattern, but it's probably only because it's been pointed out to them so often.

In short: there are people who agree with me that sibling names don't have to form a perfect set. Any name chosen and given with love will do just fine.

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October 3, 2014 11:46 PM

Yes - I know several who changed themes with the 4th child. I'm okay with it, too, it's more important to appreciate the name than to force a brand new baby into a 'box' that one doesn't love.

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September 28, 2014 5:40 PM

Hm.  I'd possibly go with Waverly, which isn't androgynous but sort of feels that way.  I've never found a meaning for it on a reliable name-meaning site, but all the unreliable ones claim it refers to the aspen tree.  I'm quite fond of aspens, so I'd probably just run with that.  

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By EVie
September 28, 2014 9:26 PM

I have your answer! "Woodland clearing by the marshy ground," from Old English wæfre + leahwæfre is literally "unstable, unsteady, wavering, wandering" which I imagine refers to the not-so-solid ground in the marsh. (Source: A Dictionary of English Place-Names by A.D. Mills). Waverley is the name of a district in Surrey, which takes its name from Waverley Abbey, the first Cistercian abbey in England, founded in 1128. 

There are also of course many places named Waverley elsewhere in the world, but they probably all take their name from that original Waverley (or from the Sir Walter Scott novels, in which Waverley is the surname of the main character, but Sir Walter probably took the name from the original as well). Waverley Place is a common street name--there are Waverley Places in London, New York, San Francisco, Edinburgh and many, many other places.

I looked it up elsewhere on the internet and found a bunch of definitions like "meadow of quivering aspens" or "quaking aspen." There are other English place names derived from the word wæfre that do refer to wavering trees or other things, according to my source: Waverton in Cheshire is "farmstead by a swaying tree," Wharton is "farmstead by a swaying tree or marshy ground," the River Waver is "winding," as is Waverton in Cumbria ("farmstead on the River Waver"), and Woore in Shropshire is just "the swaying tree." So I can see "meadow of swaying trees" as a plausible meaning for Waverley, but I have no idea where the specific tree species aspen comes into it (aspen in Old English is "æspen," basically the same). It's possible that aspens just happen to grow around Waverley Abbey and it's assumed that the "swaying trees" were aspens, but there's nothing in the etymology of the name to suggest that (and I have no idea if it's true, anyway). 

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September 28, 2014 11:08 PM

Well, aspens are known for looking shivery; there are two separate species of aspen called "quaking aspen" (one of them, the N. American one, is also called "shivering aspen").  It has to do with the anatomy of their leaves.  Aspens are pretty interesting trees, actually, and I can go on about them for some time, but this isn't the place!  (Wait, let me tell you about their root systems....) 

So the association of aspens with the word "waver" would not be at all strange. 

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October 3, 2014 11:44 PM

Thanks, Laura! I love the idea of Waverly! And greatly appreciate all the additional research. 

 

I'm sure it's cliche but the concept of flexibility and strong root systems within the (potential / likely) meaning also is quite appealing. :)