Sibling for Madeleine Elizabeth and Nicholas William

Hi all -

We are expecting a third, girl, in february.  We still have plenty of time to pick a name but I think its never to early to obcess about baby names :).  After endless debate with our other two, we settled on very traditional names.  I would like the third to be a little more unique but also fit with the other two. We have short last name starting with K, so I think we need a substantive first name. Something with a cute nn would be great so that there are options.

Here are some of my current thoughts, Juliette, Charlotte, Amelia, Genevieve, Audrey. I also love Eve, Leah and Mia but I think they are too short with the last name.  Also, I really like Claire and Katherine but I dont like the alliteration.

Id appreciate any input!



September 7, 2012 10:19 PM

If you are looking for unique, you might be disappointed with the current popularity of Charlotte (#27), Amelia (#30) and Audrey (#43).  If their current popularity doesn't bother you, I do think they are great style matches for Madeleine & Nicholas.

Juliette is ranked at #377, but be aware it has jumped from #657 since 2000, so it could continue to rise.  Genevieve is also on the rise, currently #232, up from #507 in 2000.  Again, I think they are very good matches with Madeleine and Nicholas, they just might not stay as unique as you might wish.

Mia could be a nickname for Amelia and Eve could be a nickname for Genevieve, giving you 2 names you like in one.  I also think Claire and Katherine would both make very good middle names with a lot of the names on your list.    Charlotte Katherine, Amelia Claire, Audrey Claire (I really like this one), Genevieve Katherine.

Some others you might like that are a little less popular- Georgette (not in top 1000), Delphine (not in top 1000), Beatrice (#707), Ginevra (not in top 1000).

Some others with similar patterns of popularity to Juliette & Genevieve (rising, but still below the top 100)-Josephine, Eleanor, Margaret, Evangeline.



September 8, 2012 7:30 PM

One thing I might do is go look at the Top 1000 names for last year, skip the top 100, and look through the 900 lower names for ones that grab you.  There are a bunch of names around 200-300 that I think are both classic/traditional (so will fit with Madeleine and Nicholas) and a bit unusual.  

You may want to check the rising/falling info on any name you pick!

Some I like: Penelope, Josephine, Miranda, Hazel, Camille, Sabrina, Fatima (this has some pretty major religious connotations you may wish to be aware of), Veronica, Georgia, Phoebe, Karina, Bethany.

September 8, 2012 9:34 PM

Thank you both! I love the idea of eve as nn for Genevieve. And love Miranda and Penelope.   I like Mira as a nn better than Penny. Although maybe Miranda is too similar to madeleine. As much as I prefer the full name for my kids, both often wind up using nn so I hope to like the nn too.  I don't need a really unique name, I'd just prefer one that isn't in top 25 or so.  Thanks a lot! Ann

September 16, 2012 5:57 PM

Despite it sharing an initial with Madeleine, I like Miranda because I have pleasant poetic associations with it -- Ogden Nash's "A Lady Who Thinks She is Thirty", which I've loved since I was a child.  I never thought of using the nickname Mira with it, but it's a nice one. 

But good luck, whatever you pick!  Your current kids' names are really lovely and I'm sure you'll find something equally lovely for #3.



September 19, 2012 8:05 AM

Speaking of pleasant poetic associations, Belloc's Tarantella is another great one.  ("Do you remember an inn, Miranda?")


By mk
September 10, 2012 12:51 PM

Genevieve is one of my favorite names so that's my choice. I don't like nicknaming it though. Katherine is a great classic name, as is Amelia.

September 16, 2012 10:00 PM

Amelia was the one that popped to mind for me first, but I also like Genevive very much, and it seems to fit your requirements nicely.

If it seems too trendy, one I've suggested to others lately is Geneva.

As a pair, Madeline and Nicholas have a very distinguished vibe. Though I adore Juliette, I find it a bit too frilly to match well. I agree with others on the popularity issue with Charlotte, which was our girls' pick back in 2005. Audrey may be too popular as well, though I think the blockbuster popularity of the similar, Aubrey, may be even more of an issue.

If Eve is too short, Evelyn seems like the obvious solution to me. Madeline, Nicholas, and Evelyn seems near perfect to me!

Leah and Mia don't seem to match well style wise, though you could certainly get at both as nns for a variety of names.

Abigail, Annabelle, Helena, and Eleanor were the others that occured to me before I read your choices and, "Requirements."

If you like the idea of Miranda, I might suggest Sabrina


December 9, 2012 5:47 PM

Thanks so much for all the thoughts. We are still percolating. Evelyn and Miranda are the two we can both agree on.    My husband also likes Gabrielle, Penelope, Samantha and Amelia although those dont seem quite as appealing to me.   For Miranda, my husband would just as soon name her Mira, but I would much prefer to name her Miranda to give her options and because I like the literary associations, substance and flow of the name.  Im stuck on a mn for Miranda.  If we went with Evelyn, we would use Lucille, after my grandmother.  I dont like the flow of Miranda Lucille quite as much.  Any thoughts on what to pair Miranda with?

And is anyone put off by Miranda and Madeleine as too similar?  

Thank you!!!  



December 11, 2012 1:12 AM

To my ear, Miranda pairs well with one-syllable names of firm character, such as Jane.


Miranda Jane

Miranda Eve

Miranda Grace


December 17, 2012 9:49 PM

I don't think Madeline and Miranda as a sibset are too matchy.  I do like the pairing of Evelyn Lucille but Evelyn, Eve and Evie are fairly popular in my neck of the woods, should that bother you. Probably no more popular than Madeline (and it's variants) though.  

I know several Mirandas and all but one are adults so it would be refreshing to see it on an adult.

I actually don't mine Miranda Lucille but if you don't like it how about Miranda Lucy? I think it has that sweet-spunky vibe.  You could also do Miranda Evelyn if you didn't want to reserve that name for future use.

Other suggestions: Miranda June, Miranda Eve, Miranda Nell

I really like Gabrielle and Penelope off your husbands list too......

December 22, 2012 5:28 AM

With Miranda June you may want to be aware of the existsnce of filmmaker Miranda July. Miranda June sounds lovely, but also sounds like an odd spin-off of the filmmaker's name (which I assume is a pseudonym). She's not too popular, though, so it shouldn't be a huge concern.

January 2, 2013 12:26 AM

I don't believe Madeline & Miranda are too matchy.  I think you could use one of your favorite middles:

Miranda Katherine (Beautiful & both longer names like her sister)


Miranda Claire (A good blend of somewhat unique fn and traditional mn)






December 21, 2012 6:31 PM

I love Genevieve for you—I think it's a perfect sibling name with your other two, considering length and style. I feel like it's a much prettier sister name for Madeleine than either Charlotte or Amelia (both of which are names I like, though I did recently eliminate them for my baby on the way).

January 1, 2013 10:23 PM

If you have settled on the fn being Miranda then I like Miranda Charlotte a lot. Is that an option? Also how about:

Miranda Claire; Miranda Ivy; Miranda Josephine; Miranda Nicole; Miranda Louise

If you have not settled then I also like Charlotte Amelia, Audrey Claire, or Samantha (2 syl)

January 3, 2013 6:25 PM

To me, Miranda and Madeleine aren't very close. When I was little, each time my mother would be having a baby, I always sugested Claire (it would not have worked as I have two brothers). My mother does not like the matchy-matchy letters (C and C) of Claire and Claudia (my own name). But when she and my dad were considering adopting, I suggested Charlotte as a name. My mom loves Charlotte, suprisingly! She said it's far enough away from Claudia that she could live with it!

So, in long, I think that Madeleine and Miranda are different enough to work!

I like Miranda May, Miranda Grace, Miranda Kathleen, and Miranda Bethany. Congratulations!

January 20, 2013 11:10 AM

Thank you all so much for your feedback.  Super helpful. As we get closer (T-22 days), we are getting even less decisive.  Miranda is still on this list but we have added some names.  Current list: Miranda, Evelyn,  Juliana or Juliet, Virginia and Elise.   As much as Amelia fit the bill, we decided we didn't love it.  My husband likes Juliana and I like Juliet.  Any thoughts on the relative appeal of these two?  Also, we added Virginia. Im surprised that its so unpopular and trending down.  Do you think its virgin/vagina problem? I think its a great name and I like Ginny is nn but would probabyl use the whole name. Finally Elise is pretty and we can agree on it.  Doesn't have quite the same flow with last name that we like with the others.  Thanks so much for thoughts!

January 20, 2013 1:39 PM

You've got a great list!  I'm sure the right name will happen :)

Miranda is great, I suggested it when I was pregnant with #1 but DH wasn't sold (we only had boys so it didn't matter in the end).

Evelyn is a name I like, but I'm not as excited about it for you as some of your other names.

Juliana & Juliet-I like themm both.  I might lean slightly more towards Juliana because I come from a nickname crazy family and it offers more nickname options. But I really don't think you could go wrong with either of them.

Virginia is a name I love, and it has a family connection for me too.  But I think the virgin thing really holds a lot of people back.  I know I had some hesitations about it.  Ginevra is a name I seriously considered as an alternative for Virginia.  It was the same strong G, R & V sounds & Ginny as a nickname, but without the virgin problem.  

Elise is kind of like Evelyn for me. I do like the name, there is nothing wrong with it.  But for some reason it feels a little lackluster next to you other choices.

January 20, 2013 8:58 PM

I think all the names on your list go well with Madeleine and Nicholas, so no dramas there.

I do like Miranda for you. Evelyn is a name I like but in the last 3 years there has been an explosion of Evelyn/Eve/Eva/Evies in my area. They all seem to use the nickname Evie, so it may mean it blends in more than the popularity of Evelyn would suggest.

Juliana and Juliet are really nice. I personally love Juliet but I would also love to meet a Juliana.  It kind of depends on which nicknames you think you may want to use. I think Juliet matches slightly better with a Madeleine but both are good.

Elise is nice and not that often heard around my area.  If it doesn't flow well does Eliza work better.

Virginia is only OK for me. The virgin thing doesn't particularly bother me, it just seems a little more dated than other options.  I was also going to suggest Ginevra as a good alternative without the virgin association.  Would Victoria appeal to you?

My favourites for you (in order) are:

Juliet, Miranda, Elise, Juliana, Evelyn, Virginia

January 20, 2013 9:48 PM

Juliet is my favorite (it's #1 on our list). Another possible option to get Ginny as a nn is Imogen.

January 21, 2013 1:43 AM

If you go with Juliana, you could use Juliet as a nickname. (Our daughter is Julianna, so obviously I like the name!)

I also like Miranda and Evelyn, although as others have mentioned, the Eve- names are stealthily popular in some areas. Virginia nicknamed Ginny could definitely grow on me, but Ginevra seems a more contemporary way to get to the nickname. Elise is kinda "meh" for me -- I like Elisabeth much better.

January 21, 2013 11:16 AM

I quite like Virginia. I know a young girl named Virginia who goes by that, no nicknames.